[2024-12-01T03:13:35Z] <midfavila> what'd i miss
[2024-12-01T03:13:37Z] <midfavila> ?
[2024-12-01T03:13:43Z] <midfavila> also hi riteo 
[2024-12-01T03:13:45Z] <midfavila> :3333333333333
[2024-12-01T04:28:09Z] <midfavila> have any of you ever looked at the Y window system?
[2024-12-01T04:28:18Z] <midfavila> https://www.y-windows.org/about.html
[2024-12-01T04:28:30Z] <midfavila> old and experimental but honestly looks nice 
[2024-12-01T04:29:00Z] <midfavila> i might try to knead it into working on a modern system if need be
[2024-12-01T05:20:14Z] <asimovc> riteo: your .config from kernel don't changed anything
[2024-12-01T05:20:43Z] <asimovc> i just don't know anymore
[2024-12-01T05:20:55Z] <asimovc> can you send me your mdev stuff?
[2024-12-01T05:20:58Z] <asimovc> maybe it
[2024-12-01T05:21:01Z] <asimovc> or something else
[2024-12-01T05:21:17Z] <asimovc> i don't know why is just me getting this if is the same build
[2024-12-01T05:21:24Z] <midfavila> hi asimovc :3
[2024-12-01T05:21:33Z] <asimovc> hi midfavila
[2024-12-01T05:21:50Z] <asimovc> are you using kiss?
[2024-12-01T05:21:54Z] <midfavila> :33333333
[2024-12-01T05:21:54Z] <midfavila> no
[2024-12-01T05:22:01Z] <midfavila> atm my x86 machine is running slackware
[2024-12-01T05:22:06Z] <asimovc> oh
[2024-12-01T05:22:10Z] <midfavila> uconsole is still on ubuntu
[2024-12-01T05:22:12Z] <asimovc> i forget
[2024-12-01T05:22:22Z] <midfavila> im going to be using kiss again once i get my workstation shipped
[2024-12-01T05:22:30Z] <midfavila> at least until i'm content with my custom linux
[2024-12-01T05:22:40Z] <asimovc> riteo: can you tell me how are you exec pipewire? maybe something related to this
[2024-12-01T05:22:42Z] <midfavila> at that point i'll probably stop using kiss on my personal machines 
[2024-12-01T05:23:26Z] <asimovc> are you creating your own distro?
[2024-12-01T05:23:28Z] <midfavila> ye
[2024-12-01T05:23:35Z] <asimovc> awesome
[2024-12-01T05:23:44Z] <asimovc> you have it on a repo or a link?
[2024-12-01T05:23:47Z] <midfavila> not yet
[2024-12-01T05:23:56Z] <midfavila> i'm still getting all the sources pulled
[2024-12-01T05:24:07Z] <asimovc> understood
[2024-12-01T05:24:17Z] <midfavila> basically its just my normal set of kiss packages but using pm(1) instead of kiss lel
[2024-12-01T05:24:21Z] <asimovc> and waht are the specs? core utils, libc, etc
[2024-12-01T05:24:54Z] <midfavila> coreutils i'm still deciding on
[2024-12-01T05:25:03Z] <midfavila> if i can use the suckless tools i will
[2024-12-01T05:25:16Z] <midfavila> if i have to include a pile of other supplements i'll likely go with busybox
[2024-12-01T05:25:23Z] <midfavila> the big question atm is suckless tar
[2024-12-01T05:25:36Z] <midfavila> if theyve fixed the issues with it i'll be able to drop libarchive
[2024-12-01T05:26:15Z] <midfavila> but yeah rn it's looking like suckless 
[2024-12-01T05:26:33Z] <midfavila> with bearssl, my apport tool instead of wget, loksh for the shell, etc
[2024-12-01T05:26:45Z] <asimovc> loksh
[2024-12-01T05:26:52Z] <asimovc> never heard about
[2024-12-01T05:26:56Z] <midfavila> afaik it's closer to upstream than oksh
[2024-12-01T05:27:02Z] <midfavila> it's what's used in debian et al
[2024-12-01T05:27:28Z] <midfavila> just oksh with minimal changes to get it to build on linux
[2024-12-01T05:27:29Z] <midfavila> libc is musl ofc
[2024-12-01T05:27:43Z] <midfavila> display is tinyx with xaw and motif 
[2024-12-01T05:27:56Z] <midfavila> going to be rewriting my old FVWM config for it
[2024-12-01T05:28:42Z] <midfavila> i'm also thinking of releasing the system using an iso
[2024-12-01T05:29:13Z] <midfavila> have a slackware-style setup script that installs the core plus other packagesets the user requests onto a CramFS root
[2024-12-01T05:30:02Z] <midfavila> really depends on how CramFS affects the usability of the system and whether or not preconfiguring software can get around that
[2024-12-01T05:30:40Z] <midfavila> i've never experimented with it but i like the idea of a super-tiny compressed root filesystem that just gets read into RAM on boot 
[2024-12-01T05:31:49Z] <midfavila> wait no squashfs. cram was obsoleted
[2024-12-01T06:33:10Z] <midfavila> wew alright time to refresh my fvwm knowledge
[2024-12-01T06:33:14Z] <midfavila> haven't touched it in like four years...
[2024-12-01T06:42:09Z] <sad_plan> probably about time then :p
[2024-12-01T06:42:37Z] <midfavila> until i become a gigachad C programmer 
[2024-12-01T06:42:50Z] <midfavila> until then fvwm is more than sufficient :3
[2024-12-01T06:43:04Z] <midfavila> i've not found a better way to imitate QNX Photon
[2024-12-01T06:46:47Z] <midfavila> then again i might just modify taviso's config for now
[2024-12-01T09:33:32Z] <riteo> welp isn't the italian timezone great
[2024-12-01T09:33:41Z] <riteo> at least I'm sleeping somewhat enough lately lol
[2024-12-01T09:34:12Z] <riteo> asimovc I have literally `exec pipewire` in my sway config 
[2024-12-01T09:34:16Z] <riteo> as in, sway runs it for me
[2024-12-01T09:34:53Z] <riteo> perhaps you could try sway and see if anything changes at all but otherwise I think we're really out of (realistic) options here
[2024-12-01T13:13:20Z] <sewn> midfavila: what's wrong with pax
[2024-12-01T16:56:09Z] <asimovc> riteo: the problem is not the window manager
[2024-12-01T16:56:24Z] <asimovc> i tried dwl in alpine and works
[2024-12-01T16:56:32Z] <asimovc> also tried sway in kiss and not worked too
[2024-12-01T16:57:04Z] <asimovc> and are you sure that is just run exec pipewire? because i just did this in my sway config and pipewire pulse not worked
[2024-12-01T16:58:10Z] <asimovc> i need to exec both pipewire and pipewire-pulse so or your configs are too different in build of the packages or something or you just are not giving me the exact information
[2024-12-01T18:01:48Z] <sewn> lol
[2024-12-01T18:47:49Z] <asimovc> sewn: are you still on alpine?
[2024-12-01T18:47:58Z] <sewn> yep
[2024-12-01T18:48:04Z] <sewn> i JUST setup bluetooth
[2024-12-01T18:48:09Z] <sewn> installed it, enabled pipewire, and shit just fucking works and i like it
[2024-12-01T18:48:18Z] <asimovc> can you check for me if alpine just works with runing pipewire?
[2024-12-01T18:48:29Z] <sewn> yes
[2024-12-01T18:48:31Z] <asimovc> i remember i have to run a script pipewire-launcher
[2024-12-01T18:48:33Z] <sewn> i am using it right now
[2024-12-01T18:48:42Z] <sewn> asimovc: on alpine yes that script just runs pipewire and wireplumber
[2024-12-01T18:49:02Z] <sewn> but you can replace that with a single pipewire config file that i made to auto enable pulseaudio and run wireplumber
[2024-12-01T18:49:11Z] <sewn> so just 'pipewire' no distro-specific script needed
[2024-12-01T18:49:24Z] <asimovc> can you send me that config?
[2024-12-01T18:49:28Z] <sewn> on KISS i believe wireplumber is running 
[2024-12-01T18:49:36Z] <asimovc> yeah kinda
[2024-12-01T18:49:37Z] <sewn> what is the issue again
[2024-12-01T18:49:56Z] <asimovc> i can't get screencast on kiss from a flatpak application
[2024-12-01T18:49:59Z] <asimovc> just audio stuf
[2024-12-01T18:50:10Z] <sewn> audio?
[2024-12-01T18:50:11Z] <asimovc> if i use the same script that alpine uses
[2024-12-01T18:50:14Z] <asimovc> not working
[2024-12-01T18:50:14Z] <sewn> no
[2024-12-01T18:50:16Z] <sewn> it wont be any differnce
[2024-12-01T18:50:22Z] <sewn> audio not working im not suprised, it shouldnt work
[2024-12-01T18:50:31Z] <asimovc> no
[2024-12-01T18:50:34Z] <asimovc> audio works
[2024-12-01T18:50:42Z] <sewn> no i mean screencast audio
[2024-12-01T18:50:54Z] <sewn> what app are you using to try to screencast audio
[2024-12-01T18:51:24Z] <asimovc> screencast is audio stuff? i getting confused
[2024-12-01T18:52:00Z] <sewn> you said your issue is you cant screencast right
[2024-12-01T18:52:07Z] <asimovc> yeap
[2024-12-01T18:52:10Z] <asimovc> no screensharing
[2024-12-01T18:52:33Z] <sewn> ok i try futile help attempt in pm
[2024-12-01T18:53:08Z] <asimovc> okay
[2024-12-01T18:53:09Z] <asimovc> so
[2024-12-01T18:53:23Z] <asimovc> i'm using kiss-dbus stuff to get screensharing
[2024-12-01T18:53:35Z] <asimovc> i did what the repo said and still nothing
[2024-12-01T18:53:47Z] <asimovc> i using ungoogled chromium from flatpak
[2024-12-01T18:53:55Z] <asimovc> i can get audio working
[2024-12-01T18:54:02Z] <sewn> check pm!!
[2024-12-01T18:54:14Z] <asimovc> okay
[2024-12-01T18:54:18Z] <asimovc> what is pm?
[2024-12-01T18:54:26Z] <asimovc> i don't have that command
[2024-12-01T18:54:37Z] <sewn> you should see my name with a red marker on the left of your client
[2024-12-01T18:54:41Z] <sewn> or something similar like that
[2024-12-01T18:55:40Z] <asimovc> oh
[2024-12-01T18:55:43Z] <asimovc> i see
[2024-12-01T18:55:52Z] <asimovc> i'm using kirc
[2024-12-01T18:55:58Z] <asimovc> just a sec
[2024-12-01T18:56:06Z] <sewn> smh not using senpai
[2024-12-01T18:56:30Z] <asimovc> can we talk at discord?
[2024-12-01T18:56:42Z] <asimovc> this pm shit will get more time
[2024-12-01T18:57:22Z] <sewn> lol
[2024-12-01T20:46:49Z] <riteo> asimovc: pipewire-launcher is an alpine thing
[2024-12-01T20:46:54Z] <riteo> I just exec pipewire and pipewire-pulse
[2024-12-01T20:46:57Z] <riteo> in the sway config
[2024-12-01T20:47:15Z] <riteo> as with sewn stuff just works™ so I have really no idea about wtf is going on sadly
[2024-12-01T20:48:00Z] <riteo> good luck folks at debugging this issue
[2024-12-01T21:25:58Z] <asimovc> riteo: now i get this from portal-wlr
[2024-12-01T21:26:00Z] <asimovc> [ERROR] - pipewire: fatal error event from core
[2024-12-01T21:34:49Z] <riteo> oof
[2024-12-01T21:35:17Z] <riteo> I think this means that pipewire is shitting itself
[2024-12-01T21:35:35Z] <riteo> and if the logs don't say anything new (I don't think they will) I think we're back to square one