[2025-03-09T18:40:48Z] <midfavila> riteo: i accidentally ripped the handle off my moka and now i'm sad
[2025-03-09T18:40:49Z] <midfavila> qwq
[2025-03-09T18:41:00Z] <midfavila> now i have to go back to french press until i can get a new one
[2025-03-09T18:41:45Z] <sewn> what is a moka
[2025-03-09T18:41:57Z] <midfavila> it's sort of like a stovetop espresso machine
[2025-03-09T18:42:22Z] <sewn> what caffeine addiction does to a goat
[2025-03-09T18:42:44Z] <midfavila> QWQ
[2025-03-09T18:43:02Z] <midfavila> i'm gonna get a sturdier one next time
[2025-03-09T18:43:13Z] <midfavila> this happens with like everything i own aa
[2025-03-09T18:44:06Z] <sewn> become money efficient
[2025-03-09T18:44:08Z] <sewn> no coffee
[2025-03-09T18:44:14Z] <sewn> one meal per day
[2025-03-09T18:44:17Z] <sewn> economic
[2025-03-09T18:44:19Z] <midfavila> one of the few luxuries i allow myself is covfefe
[2025-03-09T18:44:26Z] <midfavila> you will not force me to live in a pod and eat the bugs 
[2025-03-09T18:44:30Z] <midfavila> :gun:
[2025-03-09T18:46:32Z] <kris_> midfavila another day, another questioning whether or not i should go enlist in the military so i know i'll have a place to live a year from now
[2025-03-09T18:46:37Z] <kris_> fun times we live in
[2025-03-09T18:46:53Z] <midfavila> man i wish our military guaranteed a place to live
[2025-03-09T18:47:05Z] <midfavila> did i mention that the CAF is suggesting new recruits talk to habitat for humanity
[2025-03-09T18:47:09Z] <kris_> it guarantees basically everything, i just don't know if i meet the physical qualifications to join or not
[2025-03-09T18:47:10Z] <midfavila> bc that's happening
[2025-03-09T18:47:14Z] <kris_> and no you didn't, that's nuts
[2025-03-09T18:47:17Z] <midfavila> yeah :D
[2025-03-09T18:47:22Z] <midfavila> they're sending them to food banks too
[2025-03-09T18:47:31Z] <midfavila> and the sally anne for boots 
[2025-03-09T18:47:48Z] <midfavila> because the tories sold off all of the DoD's non-market housing
[2025-03-09T18:48:01Z] <kris_> now would be a comedic time for me to join anyway since i wouldnt be surprised if my country ends up at war sooner or later
[2025-03-09T18:48:17Z] <midfavila> it's okay you'll get your chance either way
[2025-03-09T18:48:21Z] <midfavila> they'll just draft you
[2025-03-09T18:49:01Z] <kris_> there's kinda some wild shit happening with my home life at the moment so i'm not sure if it's a good idea or not to do something like kinda commit to 4 years of uni while living here
[2025-03-09T18:49:15Z] <kris_> so, at this point, it's kinda like why *wouldn't* i try to join the military since it's at least a few years of stability
[2025-03-09T18:49:42Z] <midfavila> because then you'll be directly complicit in US imperialism and probably end up extra fucked and then abandoned by VA
[2025-03-09T18:50:09Z] <midfavila> but i appreciate the situation
[2025-03-09T18:50:53Z] <kris_> that's the issue, i don't want to be *complicit* and a part of "defending" this country
[2025-03-09T18:50:59Z] <kris_> but sometimes there's not really another option
[2025-03-09T18:52:01Z] <midfavila> i'd offer to let you crash at my place for a while but
[2025-03-09T18:52:05Z] * midfavila gestures at everything
[2025-03-09T18:52:16Z] <midfavila> maybe check for a hostel or something
[2025-03-09T18:52:30Z] <kris_> i would appreciate someone doing that for me, but i want to emphasize that i keep falling into the pit of staying with someone else for a little while
[2025-03-09T18:52:38Z] <kris_> i need to be self sustaining or fuck off, bluntly
[2025-03-09T18:52:42Z] <kris_> because this is becoming a loop
[2025-03-09T18:52:49Z] <midfavila> that's also fair
[2025-03-09T19:34:43Z] <riteo> midfavila: noooooooo how bad is the ripped handle
[2025-03-09T19:34:59Z] <riteo> like, did the peg fall out or something
[2025-03-09T19:35:03Z] <riteo> or did it snap in half
[2025-03-09T19:35:20Z] <riteo> it can be fixed I'm sure, we have the technology
[2025-03-09T19:55:03Z] <midfavila> the mount for the handle broke
[2025-03-09T19:55:08Z] <midfavila> like there's the handle
[2025-03-09T19:55:09Z] <midfavila> the pin
[2025-03-09T19:55:21Z] <midfavila> and the bit the pin goes through to connect to the handle
[2025-03-09T19:55:28Z] <midfavila> that bit broke on one side
[2025-03-09T19:55:33Z] <midfavila> i'm sure i could glue it back together
[2025-03-09T19:57:25Z] <riteo> yes we have the technology, coffee addiction must continue
[2025-03-09T19:58:10Z] <riteo> I think you might as well get the pin out, reglue everything and put it all back together
[2025-03-09T19:58:23Z] <riteo> I don't think that the pin is stuck in any significant way, a bit like watches
[2025-03-09T21:48:47Z] <midfavila> idk i'll probably just use it without the handle
[2025-03-09T21:48:49Z] <midfavila> i'll cope
[2025-03-09T21:48:50Z] <midfavila> lol
[2025-03-09T21:48:55Z] <kris_> telekenesis
[2025-03-09T21:49:17Z] <midfavila> no i'm just going to wear an oven mitt 
[2025-03-09T21:49:22Z] <midfavila> and handle the metal directly
[2025-03-09T21:49:22Z] <midfavila> :v
[2025-03-09T21:49:26Z] <kris_> valid
[2025-03-09T21:49:34Z] <midfavila> but the image is funny
[2025-03-09T21:49:40Z] <kris_> are oven mitts a form of telekenesis?
[2025-03-09T21:49:45Z] <kris_> you're moving an object without actually touching it
[2025-03-09T21:49:53Z] <midfavila> you make a good point
[2025-03-09T21:50:53Z] <midfavila> you know i wonder if there are enamel moka pots
[2025-03-09T21:51:12Z] <kris_> i wish coffee was strong enough for me
[2025-03-09T21:51:23Z] <midfavila> do you use dark roast
[2025-03-09T21:51:24Z] <kris_> like any coffee
[2025-03-09T21:51:26Z] <midfavila> because if so that's your problem
[2025-03-09T21:51:32Z] <kris_> i consume upwards of a gram of caffeine perday on the usual
[2025-03-09T21:51:39Z] <midfavila> those are ROOKIE NUMBERS
[2025-03-09T21:51:49Z] <kris_> plus a shit ton of whatever else comes in energy drinks / mixtures and like 4 packs of cigarettes worth of nicotine daily
[2025-03-09T21:51:54Z] * kris_ is zooming
[2025-03-09T21:52:03Z] <midfavila> the nicotine is maybe a concern
[2025-03-09T21:52:34Z] <kris_> if i let myself relax i'm not being productive so
[2025-03-09T21:52:46Z] <midfavila> relaxing is productive
[2025-03-09T21:53:01Z] <midfavila> :3
[2025-03-09T21:53:40Z] <kris_> up to interpretation i suppose
[2025-03-09T21:53:45Z] <midfavila> i'm seeing enamel percolators but i would rather die than use one of those blech
[2025-03-09T21:53:50Z] <midfavila> and nah relaxing is good
[2025-03-09T21:53:58Z] <midfavila> if you work too hard all the time you burn yourself uot
[2025-03-09T21:53:59Z] <midfavila> out*
[2025-03-09T21:54:07Z] <midfavila> and even if you enjoy your work it's still work
[2025-03-09T21:54:09Z] <kris_> when i get burnt out on a project or something i move to another one and then go back later
[2025-03-09T21:54:14Z] <kris_> that's my solution to that
[2025-03-09T21:54:22Z] * midfavila bigshrugs
[2025-03-09T21:54:31Z] <kris_> does any of this actually pay off? no.
[2025-03-09T21:54:41Z] <midfavila> i mean to be fair you *are* in #kisslinux
[2025-03-09T21:54:47Z] <kris_> but today probably isn't the best day for me to go on a rant about that because holy shit i'm having a bad time the past few days
[2025-03-09T21:55:10Z] <kris_> one of those "not sure if i'm genuinely in physical danger right now" types of things
[2025-03-09T22:23:44Z] <riteo> kris_: have you ever tried, like, espresso
[2025-03-09T22:23:46Z] <riteo> real espresso
[2025-03-09T22:24:23Z] <kris_> i have not
[2025-03-09T22:24:24Z] <riteo> my mom found a super duper fancy bean-grinding machine on discount and bought it
[2025-03-09T22:24:34Z] <kris_> i had an aeropress a while ago and made "actual" coffee with that a bunch though
[2025-03-09T22:24:37Z] <riteo> I had to crank it up to MAX to get a good coffee
[2025-03-09T22:24:47Z] <kris_> this is super gamer minded of me but gfuel works the best for me
[2025-03-09T22:25:07Z] <riteo> kris_: if you love coffee you need to try espresso
[2025-03-09T22:25:07Z] <kris_> there's something in it that isn't caffeine that works incredibly well and i'm not sure what it is
[2025-03-09T22:25:16Z] <midfavila> cocaine
[2025-03-09T22:25:20Z] <riteo> That's definitely dark enough for you, at least _real_ italian espresso
[2025-03-09T22:25:24Z] <riteo> southern italian kind
[2025-03-09T22:25:36Z] <midfavila> southern_italian_peter.jpg
[2025-03-09T22:25:52Z] <riteo> I have a friend from the north and they said the best coffee you can find in a pinch comes from a mccafé which is very sad
[2025-03-09T22:26:02Z] <midfavila> ew
[2025-03-09T22:26:20Z] <riteo> I mean it's not that bad it's just like, the average espresso you'd have in a neapolitan bar
[2025-03-09T22:26:39Z] <riteo> and that's the thing, espresso in naples is great everywhere you go pretty much
[2025-03-09T22:26:45Z] <midfavila> the only neapolitan bar i've experienced is the ice cream kind so idk
[2025-03-09T22:26:48Z] <riteo> with a sfogliatella :drool:
[2025-03-09T22:27:08Z] <midfavila> man i should buy some neapolitan ice crema
[2025-03-09T22:27:11Z] <midfavila> cream*
[2025-03-09T22:27:25Z] <riteo> ah is it true that the american ice cream is different from gelato
[2025-03-09T22:27:30Z] <midfavila> yes
[2025-03-09T22:27:37Z] <midfavila> gelato has significantly more fat and less air
[2025-03-09T22:27:42Z] <midfavila> it's much denser and smoother
[2025-03-09T22:27:51Z] <midfavila> ice cream is more of a foam
[2025-03-09T22:28:05Z] <midfavila> but neapolitan is a specific kind of ice cream with like
[2025-03-09T22:28:08Z] <riteo> oh that's interesting
[2025-03-09T22:28:12Z] <midfavila> chocolate and vanilla and strawberry all together
[2025-03-09T22:28:18Z] <midfavila> idk why it's called neapolitan
[2025-03-09T22:28:22Z] <midfavila> but ye
[2025-03-09T22:28:32Z] <riteo> oh I see, I wondered what neapolitan ice cream was
[2025-03-09T22:28:36Z] <riteo> thought it was a kind of ice cream
[2025-03-09T22:28:45Z] <midfavila> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_ice_cream
[2025-03-09T22:28:53Z] <midfavila> >place of origin: prussia
[2025-03-09T22:28:55Z] <midfavila> makes sense
[2025-03-09T22:29:03Z] <riteo> oh you know what
[2025-03-09T22:29:11Z] <riteo> you can actually buy like, tubs of ice cream like that
[2025-03-09T22:29:14Z] <riteo> here
[2025-03-09T22:29:18Z] <midfavila> you can here as well
[2025-03-09T22:29:19Z] <midfavila> :P
[2025-03-09T22:29:24Z] <riteo> that makes sense
[2025-03-09T22:29:43Z] <riteo> > Its English-language name of Neapolitan arose in the late 19th century due to confusion about its origin given Italy's reputation for ice cream[5] or because its colors—originally green (pistachio), white (vanilla) and red (cherry)—matched those of the Italian flag.[6]
[2025-03-09T22:29:44Z] <riteo> lmao
[2025-03-09T22:29:52Z] <riteo> Italians always win
[2025-03-09T22:30:12Z] <midfavila> vive italia
[2025-03-09T22:30:53Z] <midfavila> ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[2025-03-09T22:31:00Z] <midfavila> but if i go get ice cream that means i need to get dressed
[2025-03-09T22:31:07Z] <midfavila> and get out of my pajamas
[2025-03-09T22:31:10Z] <midfavila> and i dont wanna do that
[2025-03-09T22:31:24Z] <midfavila> im comfy and stuff
[2025-03-09T22:31:34Z] <riteo> understandable
[2025-03-09T22:31:42Z] <midfavila> riteo fetch me gelato
[2025-03-09T22:31:47Z] * midfavila snaps fingers
[2025-03-09T22:31:53Z] <riteo> yes sir
[2025-03-09T22:32:09Z] <midfavila> i can't wait until the local gelato place opens back up
[2025-03-09T22:32:15Z] <riteo> plane loaded with the finest gelato coming right away
[2025-03-09T22:32:19Z] <midfavila> the owner is very proud that she went to "gelato university"
[2025-03-09T22:32:23Z] <riteo> lmao
[2025-03-09T22:32:37Z] <midfavila> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelato_University
[2025-03-09T22:32:41Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2025-03-09T22:32:46Z] <riteo> reading this is making me really proud of my country
[2025-03-09T22:32:51Z] <riteo> we suck ass at a crapton of stuff
[2025-03-09T22:32:58Z] <riteo> but we absolutely rock at food
[2025-03-09T22:34:05Z] <midfavila> idk you guys did make marinara sauce which is blech
[2025-03-09T22:34:18Z] <riteo> define marinara sauce
[2025-03-09T22:34:34Z] <midfavila> tomato sauce with garlic, onions, basil and oregano
[2025-03-09T22:34:47Z] <riteo> huh
[2025-03-09T22:34:48Z] <midfavila> it's like, what people put on spaghetti or pizza idk
[2025-03-09T22:34:51Z] <riteo> I had a hunch for some reason
[2025-03-09T22:34:55Z] <riteo> basil and onions don't belong there
[2025-03-09T22:34:56Z] <midfavila> i can't do oregano
[2025-03-09T22:35:00Z] <midfavila> it's too like, pungent
[2025-03-09T22:35:09Z] <riteo> it's literally tomato sauce, garlic and oregano
[2025-03-09T22:35:13Z] <riteo> and you put that on a pizza, not spaghetti
[2025-03-09T22:35:24Z] <riteo> well, also add salt and oil obviously
[2025-03-09T22:35:28Z] <midfavila> people put it on spaghetti here
[2025-03-09T22:35:29Z] <midfavila> qw
[2025-03-09T22:35:31Z] <midfavila> qwq
[2025-03-09T22:36:14Z] <riteo> remember
[2025-03-09T22:36:26Z] <riteo> italian cuisine is very, very KISS
[2025-03-09T22:36:32Z] <sad_plan> funny. I was comparing the rk3588 vs my desktop, and my laptop. and my laptop comes out just a tad bit above the rk3588. the rk3588's all cores is somewhat similar to 1 core on my desktop appearntly. this is good news imo. kinda means I can get a reasonably powerfull laptop out of the mnt reform, if I end up buying it
[2025-03-09T22:36:38Z] <riteo> like, also, spaghetti all'amatriciana
[2025-03-09T22:37:05Z] <midfavila> i just eat meat pies and fish and chips
[2025-03-09T22:37:11Z] <midfavila> blokecore diet
[2025-03-09T22:37:23Z] <riteo> it's literally only guanciale, tomato, pecorino, at MOST salt. Not even oil is needed because guanciale renders down into fat
[2025-03-09T22:37:28Z] <midfavila> speaking of which i'm going to go cook some rn
[2025-03-09T22:37:43Z] * midfavila drags riteo into the kitchen
[2025-03-09T22:37:50Z] <midfavila> also yes sad_plan the rk3588 is p good
[2025-03-09T22:38:34Z] * riteo screams with a bottle of olive oil in hand
[2025-03-09T22:39:09Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: yes, it appears so. I wont be buying it from crowdsource any time soon, but maybe next year or something. atleast its good to know what I could reasonably expect in terms of performance. Ive found this to be somewhat difficult in the past. having no references really
[2025-03-09T22:39:16Z] <sad_plan> but now I do
[2025-03-09T22:39:47Z] <midfavila> tbh i still on the imx8mq and it's pretty nice
[2025-03-09T22:40:04Z] <midfavila> i can keep a few dozen firefox tabs open under X running in software mode 
[2025-03-09T22:40:10Z] <midfavila> stil super snappy
[2025-03-09T22:40:18Z] <midfavila> runs off the onboard emmc
[2025-03-09T22:40:31Z] <sad_plan> isnt that awefully slow? I recall reading a review of the reform the other day, and I think it used that SoM. maybe I recall incorrectly
[2025-03-09T22:40:41Z] <midfavila> i don't find it to be an issue
[2025-03-09T22:41:01Z] <sad_plan> all good then I suppose
[2025-03-09T22:41:02Z] <midfavila> the only time the reform with an imx8mq is actually slow in my experience has been when i'm playing cataclysm
[2025-03-09T22:41:18Z] <midfavila> if you were gonna play like 3d games or use bloated webcrap then it would be an issue tho
[2025-03-09T22:41:53Z] <sad_plan> I get that. and yeah, it was that exact chip
[2025-03-09T22:42:03Z] * midfavila nodnodnods
[2025-03-09T22:42:04Z] <sad_plan> its on ars technica https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/review-mnt-reform-laptop-has-fully-open-hardware-and-software-for-better-or-worse/
[2025-03-09T22:42:10Z] <midfavila> they haven't offered the imx8mq for a while tbf
[2025-03-09T22:42:22Z] <midfavila> they released an imx8mq plus and then discontinued it once the cm4 adapter came out
[2025-03-09T22:42:34Z] <midfavila> if you get the reform classic from mnt directly they ship it with a banana pi 
[2025-03-09T22:42:35Z] <sad_plan> probably stopped I suppose in favor of more performing chips
[2025-03-09T22:42:37Z] <midfavila> iirc
[2025-03-09T22:42:40Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-03-09T22:42:50Z] <midfavila> the imx8mq has the widest support in terms of software though afaik
[2025-03-09T22:42:53Z] <sad_plan> really? thought htey used cm4?
[2025-03-09T22:42:55Z] <midfavila> you can run 9front and genode and stuff on it
[2025-03-09T22:43:01Z] <midfavila> not afaik
[2025-03-09T22:43:05Z] <sad_plan> nice
[2025-03-09T22:43:16Z] <midfavila> someone also got it to boot with a quartz64 irc
[2025-03-09T22:43:18Z] <midfavila> iirc*
[2025-03-09T22:43:45Z] <midfavila> or one of pine's SoMs
[2025-03-09T22:43:50Z] <sad_plan> nice. it seems to default to the A311D, which is cm4
[2025-03-09T22:44:05Z] <sad_plan> doesnt seem to offer anything but cm4 or rk3588 now
[2025-03-09T22:44:09Z] <midfavila> oh i must have misremembered then
[2025-03-09T22:44:14Z] <midfavila> but yeah
[2025-03-09T22:44:58Z] <sad_plan> it mightve been changed somewhat recently. I recall more modules being available just some months ago
[2025-03-09T22:45:36Z] <sad_plan> maybe they just opted to sell out remaining stock, and stopped ordering them alltogether
[2025-03-09T22:45:51Z] <midfavila> very posible
[2025-03-09T22:45:58Z] <sad_plan> yeah
[2025-03-09T22:46:00Z] <midfavila> they did have a bunch of new products launch
[2025-03-09T22:46:31Z] <sad_plan> I suppose so. havent really looked too much outside of the reform next being launched with the new rk3588
[2025-03-09T22:46:40Z] <midfavila> i would love to get a mars cm4 running in the reform personally
[2025-03-09T22:46:56Z] <sad_plan> ive been eying it now, along with the pocket reform. its a cute device. 
[2025-03-09T22:47:14Z] <midfavila> i'm mulling over whether or not i want to try and mod my reform
[2025-03-09T22:47:15Z] <sad_plan> would be an upgrade for sure
[2025-03-09T22:47:25Z] <sad_plan> for what purpose?
[2025-03-09T22:47:34Z] <midfavila> i would love to install a kishsaver model f and an e-ink 4:3 display using that modos board
[2025-03-09T22:47:38Z] <midfavila> insane? yes
[2025-03-09T22:47:40Z] <midfavila> do i care? no
[2025-03-09T22:49:11Z] <midfavila> https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver/
[2025-03-09T22:49:35Z] <midfavila> this but replace the chassis if possible to fit within the new case
[2025-03-09T23:00:02Z] <midfavila> oop
[2025-03-09T23:00:08Z] <midfavila> new canadian PM incoming
[2025-03-09T23:00:14Z] <midfavila> mark carney just unseated trudeau
[2025-03-09T23:19:05Z] <sad_plan> interesting. Id love to see ortho keeb on the reform though. like the pocket reform. atleast as an option, if anything else
[2025-03-09T23:19:21Z] <midfavila> i think someone modded that
[2025-03-09T23:19:27Z] <sad_plan> dope
[2025-03-09T23:19:33Z] <midfavila> if not you could probably edit the source for the standard keeb pretty easily
[2025-03-09T23:20:26Z] <sad_plan> probably. but I dont have the means to get whats needed. or maybe I do. theres companies that prints pcbs now that I think about it
[2025-03-09T23:20:53Z] <midfavila> there are companies that will print it ye
[2025-03-09T23:20:58Z] <midfavila> stick all your components on it
[2025-03-09T23:21:43Z] <sad_plan> yeah. I would probably have to solder though. which Im not really comfortable to do on such delicate components
[2025-03-09T23:22:02Z] <midfavila> at most you might have to do the switches
[2025-03-09T23:22:24Z] <sad_plan> still too much. I cant solder for shit
[2025-03-09T23:22:50Z] <midfavila> i believe in you
[2025-03-09T23:22:51Z] <midfavila> :3
[2025-03-09T23:23:00Z] <midfavila> dont let your keebs be dreams
[2025-03-09T23:23:26Z] <sad_plan> lol, thanks. but Ill wait anyway. so maybe in the meantime, mnt has decided to give this as an option 
[2025-03-09T23:24:01Z] <sad_plan> I do however wanna switch my 60% ducky keeb into a 40% ortho. theres some options for this available, with hotswap switches even. which is just what I want