[2025-05-20T09:39:47Z] <L0Wigh> Installation done (kinda), I had issues with kiss-xorg repo and it's mesa version. I had to rollback to previous build process 
[2025-05-20T09:53:55Z] <kris_> https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=mullvad-vpn
[2025-05-20T09:54:04Z] <kris_> this may be the messiest package ive ever seen
[2025-05-20T09:57:08Z] <L0Wigh> too much deps...
[2025-05-20T10:02:03Z] <kris_> i mean its not that its too many really its that its just hard to build
[2025-05-20T10:02:46Z] <kris_> go, rust, node all for 1 vpn client is fucking crazy
[2025-05-20T10:03:10Z] <kris_> shame too because it's the only way to get some of their cooler features like daita
[2025-05-20T10:04:11Z] <L0Wigh> I hate that kind of product
[2025-05-20T10:04:38Z] <kris_> i guess it makes sense in this context but they seem to have hit all of the hype languages just to do so
[2025-05-20T10:04:50Z] <kris_> i dont get why they wouldnt just use qt instead of doing the frontend with node
[2025-05-20T10:05:26Z] <L0Wigh> because there is more soydevs that only know web coding than devs that can do "classical" coding
[2025-05-20T10:06:54Z] <L0Wigh> I have nothing against web langages, I just hate when it's becoming the default way to code desktop apps
[2025-05-20T10:07:23Z] <kris_>  eh you may be right
[2025-05-20T10:07:37Z] <kris_> i don't know, i'm just frustrated because of course they dont have builds already done for musl
[2025-05-20T10:08:02Z] <L0Wigh> well, musl seems like a dream that will not come soon
[2025-05-20T10:08:14Z] <L0Wigh> wayland will be fully ready before musl is fully adopted
[2025-05-20T10:08:29Z] <kris_> idk, this is the only thing i use that warrants glibc
[2025-05-20T10:08:38Z] <kris_> and ive been daily driving wayland for 5 years at least lol, havent used xorg since
[2025-05-20T10:09:12Z] <kris_> i have a handful of glibc installs around but it's not many, just my laptop and local server because i was having some weird bugginess with qemu on musl
[2025-05-20T10:09:39Z] <L0Wigh> I did used wayland like 3-4 years ago, everyone was trashtalking it. Now that I switched back to X11, everyone is jumping on the wayland boat x)
[2025-05-20T10:09:54Z] <kris_> i was on wayland as soon as i possibly could because xorg is just absolutely unusable 
[2025-05-20T10:10:06Z] <kris_> at least when you get to having spicy display setups
[2025-05-20T10:10:42Z] <L0Wigh> I'm using simple setups (mostly one or two screens on laptops) and I feel like X11 is lighter than most wayland compositors
[2025-05-20T10:10:51Z] <kris_> it's not
[2025-05-20T10:11:18Z] <L0Wigh> it's probably not 
[2025-05-20T10:11:31Z] <L0Wigh> but my current setup is working really good for me
[2025-05-20T10:11:43Z] <kris_> idk my thing here is that i have a 240hz primary display and 60hz secondary and this type of setup is problematic with xorg
[2025-05-20T10:12:11Z] <kris_> and i'm not going to go buy another 240hz display so they match just so i can use xorg and still have issues with screen tearing, latency, etc
[2025-05-20T10:12:31Z] <L0Wigh> X11 is taking 12MB and my WM is taking 812KB 
[2025-05-20T10:12:47Z] <kris_> i dont really have a measurement of that
[2025-05-20T10:12:48Z] <L0Wigh> That's way way less than what Hyprland, Sway, Niri are taking
[2025-05-20T10:13:16Z] <kris_> eh hyprland is disgusting
[2025-05-20T10:13:29Z] <kris_> ive been pretty much just sticking to sway when i'm not using gnome
[2025-05-20T10:13:34Z] <L0Wigh> I HATE Hyprland
[2025-05-20T10:13:44Z] <kris_> i mostly find it problematic because the lead dev is a moron
[2025-05-20T10:13:49Z] <L0Wigh> and I HATE the dev even more
[2025-05-20T10:13:49Z] <kris_> not even just socially he's just actually a bad developer
[2025-05-20T10:14:15Z] <L0Wigh> yeah he is a pain to work with
[2025-05-20T10:14:25Z] <kris_> and honestly every person i know who daily drives hyprland complains quite literally every time there's an update that "fuck my WM is broken again"
[2025-05-20T10:14:56Z] <L0Wigh> yeah that's right ! saw the same thing
[2025-05-20T10:15:20Z] <kris_> i may try daily driving oksh again
[2025-05-20T10:15:53Z] <L0Wigh> what kind of shell is that ?
[2025-05-20T10:16:25Z] <kris_> it's openbsds korn shell but portable
[2025-05-20T10:16:45Z] <L0Wigh> what's the key differences between this and bash/zsh ?
[2025-05-20T10:20:40Z] <kris_> really just lighter weight and closer to posix conformance
[2025-05-20T10:23:43Z] <L0Wigh> oh ok nice, I might look at it
[2025-05-20T16:44:35Z] <midfavila> oksh is nice
[2025-05-20T16:48:21Z] <il> huh, interesting
[2025-05-20T20:32:17Z] <sad_plan> oksh is indeed nice
[2025-05-20T23:24:43Z] <drmcstsr> so i configured kernel and tried to compile it to no avail sadly
[2025-05-20T23:25:24Z] <drmcstsr> https://bin.bloat.cat/?8ba83b605726fd81#AVSKjyTFUcZxMgN9wC2Vf4CkmpvzYxPazM61PdJuEVP9 here is the log of make
[2025-05-20T23:26:31Z] <drmcstsr> i did localyesconfig and added needed firmware blobs plus applied no perl patch
[2025-05-20T23:28:27Z] <drmcstsr> kernel version is 6.14.7 stable