[2025-05-22T20:05:41Z] <kris_> the brain worms finally won and i'm testing out seatd + turnstile instead of elogind
[2025-05-22T20:35:16Z] * kris_ is going back to elogind
[2025-05-22T21:12:23Z] <sewn> you suxk
[2025-05-22T21:13:01Z] <kris_> sewn polkit stuff :(
[2025-05-22T21:13:07Z] <sewn> noob
[2025-05-22T21:13:14Z] <kris_> meanie
[2025-05-22T21:13:19Z] <sewn> sowwy
[2025-05-22T21:13:22Z] <sewn> how is that relevant though
[2025-05-22T21:13:33Z] <sewn> polkit shouldn't interfere with turnstile
[2025-05-22T21:13:42Z] <kris_> oh, no, it doesn't
[2025-05-22T21:13:48Z] <kris_> i was attempting to replace elogind with seatd + turnstile
[2025-05-22T21:14:06Z] <kris_> i have no use for user services so i don't care about that part of turnstile
[2025-05-22T21:14:41Z] <kris_> there are some polkit things that kinda need elogind so i wasn't able to get my file manager and otherwise to mount other drives in the system
[2025-05-22T21:14:57Z] <kris_> at which point, the only point turnstile has is tracking ssh stuff
[2025-05-22T21:16:04Z] <kris_> albeit that is the only issue i have with that setup so i totally could just mount my other drive via typical commands
[2025-05-22T21:17:46Z] <midfavila> kris_: why do you use any of that
[2025-05-22T21:17:52Z] <midfavila> legitimate question
[2025-05-22T21:17:58Z] <midfavila> i only use shadow 
[2025-05-22T21:18:22Z] <kris_> seatd is more or less needed for wayland compositors
[2025-05-22T21:18:26Z] <midfavila> lame
[2025-05-22T21:18:30Z] <kris_> *or* elogind
[2025-05-22T21:18:30Z] <midfavila> another reason to avoid wayland
[2025-05-22T21:18:35Z] <kris_> you have no reasons to avoid it
[2025-05-22T21:18:47Z] <midfavila> aside from having to redo my entire workflow
[2025-05-22T21:18:48Z] <midfavila> :P
[2025-05-22T21:18:53Z] <kris_> but as for turnstile, i ssh around constantly and dont want to enter my passphrase every time so elogind or turnstile keeps that open
[2025-05-22T21:19:06Z] <kris_> and interact with my virt server over ssh via virt-manager which will otherwise spam me with prompts
[2025-05-22T21:19:48Z] <midfavila> ah
[2025-05-22T21:20:04Z] <midfavila> you can't just put an ssh key on it or whatever?
[2025-05-22T21:20:09Z] <kris_> anyway elogind seems like a less sucky solution
[2025-05-22T21:20:21Z] <kris_> at least for rn especially because i could not care less about user services
[2025-05-22T21:20:30Z] <kris_> if i want to run something as a user i'll just chpst
[2025-05-22T21:21:05Z] <kris_> midfavila i don't know, maybe? this is just the most cut and dry solution that covers everything
[2025-05-22T21:22:07Z] <midfavila> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm