[2025-05-26T15:02:05Z] <asimov> hi guys
[2025-05-26T15:02:24Z] <asimov> any of you tried to build floorp?
[2025-05-26T15:27:49Z] <kris_> asimov that would probably be kind of a nightmare.
[2025-05-26T15:28:25Z] <kris_> https://flathub.org/apps/one.ablaze.floorp
[2025-05-26T15:28:33Z] <kris_> could always cheat a little bit via flatpak
[2025-05-26T15:32:57Z] <asimov> dont like flatpaks but if needed i will use
[2025-05-26T15:33:05Z] <asimov> flatpak never worked great on kiss for me
[2025-05-26T15:33:31Z] <asimov> like firefox and stuff never get screencasting and i dont know why 
[2025-05-26T18:01:02Z] <sewn> i love chromium
[2025-05-26T18:10:06Z] * midfavila gets the gun
[2025-05-26T18:10:17Z] <midfavila> time to go find out what's behind the shedd
[2025-05-26T18:10:25Z] <midfavila> sure as shit ain't chromium
[2025-05-26T18:10:28Z] <midfavila> smdh
[2025-05-26T18:10:33Z] <midfavila> how could you betray us like this sewn
[2025-05-26T18:10:42Z] <sewn> whats wrong
[2025-05-26T18:10:55Z] <midfavila> chromium isn't exactly "kiss" :P
[2025-05-26T18:11:03Z] <sewn> the modern web isn't "kiss" either, mid
[2025-05-26T18:11:08Z] <midfavila> dont use it
[2025-05-26T18:11:08Z] <midfavila> ez
[2025-05-26T18:11:18Z] <sewn> unfortunately, this wont work for me
[2025-05-26T18:11:26Z] <midfavila> but thou must
[2025-05-26T18:12:04Z] <midfavila> reminds me, i wonder if suckless ever seriously looking at retooling surf to use links 
[2025-05-26T18:12:12Z] <sewn> why would they
[2025-05-26T18:12:15Z] <midfavila> i know it's on their website as an idea
[2025-05-26T18:12:18Z] <midfavila> because webkit is awful
[2025-05-26T18:12:19Z] <midfavila> lmao
[2025-05-26T18:12:35Z] <midfavila> links has its issues but it's the only browser i legitimately like atm
[2025-05-26T18:12:56Z] <midfavila> ofc it could be better but perfection is the journey, not the destination 
[2025-05-26T18:13:33Z] <sewn> you should look into chawan :3
[2025-05-26T18:13:48Z] <thomas_adam> It's a shame -- there was a narrow period of time where elinks, and "links -g" almost had their place.  I had a decent remit with elinks:  https://xteddy.org/elinks/ -- alas, such things are no longer possible.  
[2025-05-26T18:14:14Z] <midfavila> there's a lot of situations where links under X is meh but it's also surprisingly useful 
[2025-05-26T18:14:20Z] <midfavila> esp with the rise of frontends like invidious
[2025-05-26T18:14:26Z] <thomas_adam> Even chawan doesn't cut it.
[2025-05-26T18:14:34Z] <sewn> hey what chawan is nice
[2025-05-26T18:14:57Z] <midfavila> the only chawan i know is the tea bowl
[2025-05-26T18:15:14Z] <midfavila> oh huh
[2025-05-26T18:15:18Z] <midfavila> it's written in nim
[2025-05-26T18:15:21Z] <midfavila> that's interesting
[2025-05-26T18:15:47Z] <midfavila> sixel is clever if a bit of a kludge but i definitely appreciate it
[2025-05-26T18:15:54Z] <midfavila> hmm
[2025-05-26T18:16:01Z] <midfavila> maybe worth studyin
[2025-05-26T18:16:04Z] <sewn> meow
[2025-05-26T18:16:04Z] <midfavila> studying*
[2025-05-26T18:16:20Z] <midfavila> fuck i want my desktop to get here so I can start tinkering with tech stuff again
[2025-05-26T18:16:27Z] <sewn> what are you on right now then
[2025-05-26T18:16:39Z] <midfavila> my reform, which has no mass storage device, lmao
[2025-05-26T18:16:46Z] <midfavila> everything is running off the onboard emmc
[2025-05-26T18:16:55Z] <midfavila> basically no available space
[2025-05-26T18:17:02Z] <sewn> how much
[2025-05-26T18:17:20Z] <midfavila> rn i have about 200mb 
[2025-05-26T18:17:24Z] <sewn> what the fuc
[2025-05-26T18:17:27Z] <midfavila> which i guess is technically enough
[2025-05-26T18:17:31Z] <midfavila> oh wait unless you meant total
[2025-05-26T18:17:36Z] <sewn> total yes
[2025-05-26T18:17:36Z] <midfavila> in which case i think it's around eight?
[2025-05-26T18:17:41Z] <sewn> 8mb???
[2025-05-26T18:18:11Z] <midfavila> just checked, it's ~12GB total 
[2025-05-26T18:18:15Z] <sewn> ah
[2025-05-26T18:18:16Z] <midfavila> i misremembered 
[2025-05-26T18:18:17Z] <sewn> thats plenty
[2025-05-26T18:18:22Z] <midfavila> yeah but also >debian
[2025-05-26T18:18:31Z] <midfavila> and i'm too lazy to actually trim it down lol
[2025-05-26T18:18:36Z] <midfavila> i could probably tinker on the main sdf cluster
[2025-05-26T18:19:11Z] <midfavila> but yeah adding gopher support and futzing about with the TLS support to use libtls instead of open/libressl would be amazing...
[2025-05-26T18:19:17Z] <thomas_adam> One of the things Omar and I had with the telescope-browser (for Gemini) was to expand it to support HTTP.
[2025-05-26T18:19:40Z] <midfavila> telescope seems nice
[2025-05-26T18:21:05Z] <thomas_adam> WEll, I use it a lot, so I'm biased.  :)
[2025-05-26T18:21:42Z] <midfavila> fair
[2025-05-26T18:21:49Z] <midfavila> i'm the same way towards links
[2025-05-26T18:21:55Z] <midfavila> i think it's been my main browser for like five years now
[2025-05-26T18:22:12Z] <midfavila> so i've got everything set up nice and neat = w=
[2025-05-26T18:22:14Z] <thomas_adam> Does links support Gemini?  
[2025-05-26T18:22:24Z] <midfavila> no, but i don't see why it couldn't
[2025-05-26T18:23:01Z] <thomas_adam> Sure -- I was asking whether anyone's patched links to support it.
[2025-05-26T18:23:10Z] <midfavila> they might have, i've never looked
[2025-05-26T18:23:16Z] <midfavila> i don't really use gemini tbh with you
[2025-05-26T18:23:35Z] <thomas_adam> Heh -- that's fair enough.  :)
[2025-05-26T18:24:06Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/issues/121
[2025-05-26T18:24:30Z] <midfavila> elinks is fiddling with it 
[2025-05-26T18:24:34Z] <midfavila> so that's neat
[2025-05-26T18:24:45Z] <midfavila> i might experiment with gemini as a learning experience 
[2025-05-26T18:24:51Z] <thomas_adam> I know it is...
[2025-05-26T18:25:11Z] <midfavila> sorry >.<;
[2025-05-26T18:27:55Z] <thomas_adam> midfavila: Nothing to apologise for -- how were you to know I'm following elinks' development? :)
[2025-05-26T18:28:40Z] <midfavila> now you're going to make me apologise for apologising
[2025-05-26T18:28:41Z] <midfavila> g o s h
[2025-05-26T18:29:02Z] <midfavila> fair enough though
[2025-05-26T18:29:35Z] <thomas_adam> midfavila: Get away with yer, man... :)
[2025-05-26T18:31:40Z] <thomas_adam> I bet htmx would make web <-> terminal easier though.
[2025-05-26T18:32:07Z] <midfavila> htmx?
[2025-05-26T18:35:09Z] <thomas_adam> midfavila: https://htmx.org
[2025-05-26T18:36:29Z] <midfavila> ooh
[2025-05-26T18:36:45Z] <midfavila> that actually looks pretty good...
[2025-05-26T18:38:27Z] <thomas_adam> midfavila: Yep.  :)
[2025-05-26T21:27:04Z] <kris_> midfavila agpl pretty based
[2025-05-26T21:27:09Z] <kris_> glad you pointed that out because honestly i forgot it existed
[2025-05-26T21:57:49Z] <midfavila> The ideal would be no licences but alas
[2025-05-26T21:57:52Z] <midfavila> :c
[2025-05-26T22:07:59Z] <kris_> im guessing you mean in general as opposed to with my projects
[2025-05-26T23:02:35Z] <midfavila> in general ye
[2025-05-26T23:02:44Z] <midfavila> intellectual property in general is extremely cringe
[2025-05-26T23:11:26Z] <kris_> well its not like we're going to somehow shift the whole system
[2025-05-26T23:11:30Z] <kris_> would be cool but unrealistic
[2025-05-26T23:11:54Z] <kris_> need to get the whole population irritated enough to do something as a whole for something like that
[2025-05-26T23:16:21Z] <midfavila> right 
[2025-05-26T23:16:22Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-05-26T23:16:25Z] <midfavila> that would never happen
[2025-05-26T23:16:27Z] <midfavila> hahahaha
[2025-05-26T23:16:28Z] <midfavila> >.>;
[2025-05-26T23:16:30Z] <midfavila> <.<;
[2025-05-26T23:24:36Z] <kris_> do *you* have a way to get that many people riled up enough to wanna change things
[2025-05-26T23:25:36Z] <midfavila> surprisingly enough, yes, actually, lmao
[2025-05-26T23:26:15Z] <midfavila> i don't know how it happened but somehow i've convinced a bunch of people to form a municipal political party in my city which never happens in canada
[2025-05-26T23:26:26Z] <midfavila> obvs not going to abolish property laws over night but it's something
[2025-05-26T23:26:48Z] <midfavila> ward councilor today, prime minister tomorrow, and then...
[2025-05-26T23:27:29Z] <midfavila> then... i shall enact my evil dictatorial plan to guarantee everyone their basic rights unconditionally
[2025-05-26T23:27:34Z] <midfavila> muahaha
[2025-05-26T23:28:05Z] <midfavila> and also abolish intellectual property in the process ofc