[2025-05-30T05:47:47Z] <sewn> asimov you have to be kidding
[2025-05-30T05:47:51Z] <sewn> these are runtime dependencies
[2025-05-30T05:48:36Z] <sewn> xdg-screensaver won't even work properly on wayland
[2025-05-30T05:48:50Z] <sewn> so just drop the script and your imaginary dependencies will be gone
[2025-05-30T05:49:33Z] <sewn> even the document says they're just commands not hard dependencies
[2025-05-30T05:49:41Z] <sewn> the only dependency is xmlto
[2025-05-30T12:46:52Z] <EliSoli> Hello
[2025-05-30T12:47:16Z] <EliSoli> Could anybody give some attention here: https://www.reddit.com/r/kisslinux/comments/1kz33g5/firefox_mic_support I need some help, thx
[2025-05-30T12:59:35Z] <sewn> EliSoli: Firefox alsa is shit
[2025-05-30T12:59:41Z] <sewn> use apulse or enable pulse support
[2025-05-30T12:59:57Z] <EliSoli> I'm using pipewire-pulse
[2025-05-30T13:00:43Z] <sewn> doesn't matter as Firefox isn't built with pulse support
[2025-05-30T13:01:18Z] <EliSoli> the audio output works fine and only when pipewire-pulse is running, so I think it's already compile with pulse support
[2025-05-30T14:09:46Z] <EliSoli> sewn
[2025-05-30T14:09:55Z] <EliSoli> I just noticed firefox does is using ALSA
[2025-05-30T14:10:10Z] <EliSoli> it seems after the update it stopped using pulse
[2025-05-30T14:10:24Z] <EliSoli> how can I add pulse support? I'm not sure
[2025-05-30T14:11:49Z] <EliSoli> new version of firefox is out, I'll update first to see what happens
[2025-05-30T14:12:16Z] <sewn> fork the package and add the flag
[2025-05-30T15:06:01Z] <midfavila> alsa is fine
[2025-05-30T15:06:02Z] <midfavila> :c
[2025-05-30T15:13:01Z] <sewn> midfavila: it is
[2025-05-30T15:13:09Z] <sewn> unfortunately firefox thinks it isnt
[2025-05-30T15:34:08Z] * midfavila bigshrugs
[2025-05-30T15:34:30Z] <midfavila> mozilla is jumping on the AI hypetrain so i don't really care what they think tbqh
[2025-05-30T15:34:54Z] <midfavila> "MEET SOLO AI NEW PRODUCT FROM MOZILLA CREATE YOUR FREE WEBSITE AND CONNECT YOUR DOMAIN FOR FREE"
[2025-05-30T15:35:08Z] <midfavila> you'd think they would be able to use their AI tech to proofread this shit
[2025-05-30T15:35:10Z] <midfavila> but i guess not
[2025-05-30T15:56:35Z] <kris_> midfavila grats
[2025-05-30T15:57:22Z] <kris_> i walked to mcdonalds earlier to get some mcgriddles because i havent had any in years and i get in there and they're like "do you have our app"
[2025-05-30T15:57:46Z] <kris_> bit of precursory information, i went in and walked up to the counter to order and a few employees looked at me like i was fucking crazy and eventually came up to me and asked that
[2025-05-30T15:58:01Z] <kris_> and when i said no they told me to go order at the kiosk or download the app
[2025-05-30T15:58:11Z] <kris_> nearly walked out, probably should have walked out
[2025-05-30T15:58:29Z] <kris_> ended up just using the kiosk but apparently this is a normal thing now
[2025-05-30T16:05:03Z] <EliSoli> sewn sorry but would you know which flag to add? firefox's build file is a mess
[2025-05-30T16:06:20Z] <sewn> look at where alsa is mentioned
[2025-05-30T16:07:05Z] <EliSoli> I'll try the `ac_add_options --enable-pulseaudio`
[2025-05-30T16:08:20Z] <EliSoli> nice, i'll try replacing alsa by pulse
[2025-05-30T16:08:39Z] <sewn> I think its libpulse not pulseaudii
[2025-05-30T16:08:46Z] <sewn> you can check git source
[2025-05-30T16:08:58Z] <EliSoli> let's see the build errors then
[2025-05-30T16:09:02Z] <EliSoli> git source?
[2025-05-30T16:09:44Z] <midfavila> kris_: you shouldn't support mcdonalds 
[2025-05-30T16:09:54Z] <midfavila> it's not hard to make your own mcgriddle clone thingie
[2025-05-30T16:10:13Z] <sewn> EliSoli: of firefox
[2025-05-30T16:17:51Z] <EliSoli> Firefox with pulseaudio backend requires libpulse, I have packaged it but it isn't in the community repo, so I wonder how it was working before
[2025-05-30T16:18:00Z] <EliSoli> These are the possible backends: 'aaudio', 'alsa', 'audiounit', 'jack', 'opensl', 'oss', 'pulseaudio', 'sndio', 'sunaudio', 'wasapi'
[2025-05-30T16:59:44Z] <midfavila> man
[2025-05-30T16:59:46Z] <midfavila> canada is so fucked
[2025-05-30T16:59:57Z] <midfavila> my province is in a state of emergency because we're literally cooking :v
[2025-05-30T17:00:13Z] <midfavila> there's so much wildfire smoke in my city that we can't see the sun and it's not even officially summer yet
[2025-05-30T17:04:15Z] <thomas_adam> midfavila: I thought I had issues with Salisbuty Plain suffering the same conditions... it seems to be happening more-and-more...
[2025-05-30T17:04:38Z] <midfavila> thaaat's climate change
[2025-05-30T17:04:40Z] <midfavila> gotta love it
[2025-05-30T17:04:55Z] <midfavila> people here still do the whole "fwuh, global warming? then why is there snow on the ground?"
[2025-05-30T17:05:03Z] <thomas_adam> Apparently so... absolutely fucking sucks.
[2025-05-30T17:05:06Z] <midfavila> meanwhile there's record-breaking droughts and wildfires literally every year
[2025-05-30T17:05:09Z] <midfavila> and it's like
[2025-05-30T17:05:11Z] <midfavila> you are aFARMER
[2025-05-30T17:05:14Z] * thomas_adam rolls his eyes.
[2025-05-30T17:05:18Z] <midfavila> how are you not noticing this
[2025-05-30T17:05:32Z] <midfavila> your JOB requires you understand climate science so you can fucking
[2025-05-30T17:05:34Z] <midfavila> GROW FOOD
[2025-05-30T17:06:02Z] <midfavila> and in the same breath as complaining that there's not been much rain lately you'll go "but it's not climate change, that's woke DEI liberal left-wing communist globalist nonsense"
[2025-05-30T17:06:17Z] <midfavila> i'm not even making that up, i've had real people in real life really say those real words to me
[2025-05-30T17:06:21Z] <midfavila> and like, be serious about it
[2025-05-30T17:06:27Z] * midfavila rubs his temples
[2025-05-30T17:09:00Z] <thomas_adam> Perhaps that just... Canada?  Here in the UK, it's different, farmers (of which my parents are), have been asking the Government what they're going to do about it.
[2025-05-30T17:09:13Z] <thomas_adam> It's interesting to see the different, err, """approaches"""
[2025-05-30T17:09:14Z] <midfavila> i blame america for it as usual
[2025-05-30T17:09:29Z] <midfavila> their culture has been bleeding into canada more and more lately
[2025-05-30T17:09:34Z] <midfavila> esp in the prairies
[2025-05-30T17:09:43Z] <midfavila> it's way different on the east coast
[2025-05-30T17:09:51Z] <thomas_adam> Isn't Canada now the 5x state?  :)
[2025-05-30T17:10:04Z] <midfavila> i swear if the americans invade i'm fleeing to britain
[2025-05-30T17:10:11Z] <thomas_adam> Or so Trump would have us believe?
[2025-05-30T17:10:18Z] <midfavila> at this point i wouldn't even care if it happened
[2025-05-30T17:10:23Z] <midfavila> canada is so fucked it's unreal
[2025-05-30T17:10:30Z] <midfavila> feels like i'm in that film "they live"
[2025-05-30T17:11:05Z] <midfavila> every day we're getting blasted with evidence that we need to correct course, and hard, and everyone is like, desperately pretending that everything is fine and it's just another rough patch 
[2025-05-30T17:11:17Z] <midfavila> and if we just keep marching off the cliff like a bunch of lemmings, everything will be fine
[2025-05-30T17:11:29Z] <thomas_adam> How's the new PM working out over there?
[2025-05-30T17:11:42Z] <midfavila> about as good as yours :P
[2025-05-30T17:11:53Z] <midfavila> he's milquetoast at best
[2025-05-30T17:12:05Z] <midfavila> a non-Reform faction tory on average
[2025-05-30T17:12:11Z] <midfavila> and actively making things worse at worst
[2025-05-30T17:12:25Z] <thomas_adam> Hmm.
[2025-05-30T17:12:41Z] <midfavila> his government hasn't taken a strong stance on climate change, instead bending the knee to the wildly illegal and unrealistic alberta separatist movement 
[2025-05-30T17:12:57Z] <midfavila> saying the fed will fund increasd fossil fuel industry operations and such
[2025-05-30T17:13:07Z] <thomas_adam> Well, given how crap thing are looking with Labour, that's indeed looking like the Reform party here are getting a look-in, especially with the local elections.  I do hope not.
[2025-05-30T17:13:25Z] <midfavila> at this point our tories are basically just US-style republicans
[2025-05-30T17:14:17Z] <midfavila> idk if you watched the election here but their leader poillievre was nothing but verb-the-noun three-word slogans and trump-style "everything is broken and it's their fault" right-populism
[2025-05-30T17:14:31Z] <midfavila> and carney was like
[2025-05-30T17:15:11Z] <midfavila> "actually everything is GREAT and canada is GOOD ACTUALLY and we don't need to address anything in a fundamental way we just need to push back against the scary americans! mister dressup will always exist! elbows up, fellow canadians! also something something the king!"
[2025-05-30T17:15:15Z] <midfavila> and it's just...
[2025-05-30T17:15:17Z] <midfavila> god
[2025-05-30T17:15:36Z] <thomas_adam> Only tangentially -- I don't know the first thing about foreign politics.  For example, I've watched the West Wing about ten times, I've still no idea how US politics works.  Most of the US don't either, I know, but...
[2025-05-30T17:15:49Z] <midfavila> short answer: it doesn't
[2025-05-30T17:15:50Z] <midfavila> :P
[2025-05-30T17:15:59Z] <midfavila> canada uses a system broadly similar to the UK 
[2025-05-30T17:16:07Z] <midfavila> on account of only being independent for like maybe fifty years
[2025-05-30T17:16:35Z] <midfavila> the main difference is that we have fewer parties and less representation in parliament as such
[2025-05-30T17:16:50Z] <thomas_adam> Well, I knew that much...
[2025-05-30T17:17:01Z] * midfavila bigshrugs?
[2025-05-30T17:17:40Z] <midfavila> my take is that a lot of our issues come from canadians thinking our system works like the american one
[2025-05-30T17:17:44Z] <thomas_adam> If Canadian politics is similar to the UK, do you have the concept of a devolved Government?  Do you have local councils?
[2025-05-30T17:17:59Z] <midfavila> we have councils, yeah, and we have something sort of like devolved parliaments
[2025-05-30T17:18:15Z] <midfavila> the UK is unitary but canada is federal so it's a bit different on the particulars that i don't quite understand
[2025-05-30T17:18:34Z] <midfavila> each region has its own leislative and executive authority that acts on broadly equal footing with the fed
[2025-05-30T17:18:58Z] <thomas_adam> Well, the local council are the people to target, so I was curious if/when you get local/by elections.
[2025-05-30T17:19:09Z] <midfavila> we actually just had all of our elections all at once
[2025-05-30T17:19:10Z] <midfavila> pff
[2025-05-30T17:19:13Z] <midfavila> it was a disaster
[2025-05-30T17:19:43Z] <midfavila> we had city elections, school board elections, provincial elections, and federal elections all together
[2025-05-30T17:19:52Z] <midfavila> but yeah local politics are generally the most important, i agree
[2025-05-30T17:20:07Z] <midfavila> it's not always the most glamourous but then neither are the issues most people face
[2025-05-30T17:20:22Z] <midfavila> unfortunately everyone thinks that the prime minister has the authority to like
[2025-05-30T17:20:28Z] <midfavila> legislate for specific towns and stuff
[2025-05-30T17:20:35Z] <midfavila> (or at least they act like they think that)
[2025-05-30T17:20:47Z] <thomas_adam> Hmm.
[2025-05-30T17:20:50Z] <midfavila> so nobody turns out for local politics in any capacity, and then everyone loses their mind over federal politics
[2025-05-30T17:20:58Z] <thomas_adam> What's the phrase here... "Oh, Candada?"...
[2025-05-30T17:21:09Z] <thomas_adam> s/Candada/Canada/
[2025-05-30T17:21:12Z] <midfavila> yeah something like that
[2025-05-30T17:21:14Z] <midfavila> xwx
[2025-05-30T17:21:36Z] <thomas_adam> Sounds to me like it ought to be easy, but isn't.  Despite recent elections.
[2025-05-30T17:22:12Z] <midfavila> as always i blame the americans
[2025-05-30T17:22:22Z] <midfavila> it's before my time but NAFTA was a big part of this
[2025-05-30T17:22:48Z] <midfavila> there's some CBC archives that were dug up during the start of the trade war that talked about precisely this issue
[2025-05-30T17:23:15Z] <midfavila> of NAFTA combined with possible independent from britain resulting in massive changes in social attitudes that would gradually americanise canada
[2025-05-30T17:23:41Z] <thomas_adam> Being some X thousand miles away, I couldn't possibly comment, but given Trumps recent bullshit over Canada and Greenland, clearly there's history there.
[2025-05-30T17:24:03Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-05-30T17:24:12Z] <midfavila> idk much about greenland but at least with canada...
[2025-05-30T17:24:17Z] <midfavila> it's a whole thing
[2025-05-30T17:24:28Z] <midfavila> like alberta even has a republican party now
[2025-05-30T17:24:59Z] <EliSoli> thank you mysterious guy that said my issue was firefix needed pulseaudio support
[2025-05-30T17:25:02Z] <midfavila> i've basically already given up and decided i'll try to move to scotland or ireland in a few years 
[2025-05-30T17:25:03Z] <EliSoli> you were right
[2025-05-30T17:25:19Z] <midfavila> my family is originally from there anyway 
[2025-05-30T17:25:23Z] <midfavila> so mmnmhmnmmhmhmnmhm
[2025-05-30T17:27:21Z] <midfavila> https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/01/14/this-is-fine_custom-b7c50c845a78f5d7716475a92016d52655ba3115.jpg
[2025-05-30T17:45:39Z] <EliSoli> Why firefox with alsa doesn't work well for mic? it works fine for camera and audio output
[2025-05-30T17:46:02Z] <EliSoli> is there a reason for this issue or am I just not configuring correctly?
[2025-05-30T17:46:50Z] <midfavila> probably configuration
[2025-05-30T17:46:52Z] <midfavila> but alsa is tricky
[2025-05-30T17:47:38Z] <EliSoli> I'll do some researches on how to configure it. I'd like my environment to be as minimal as possible
[2025-05-30T17:48:39Z] <kris_> i want to get a psp
[2025-05-30T17:48:44Z] <kris_> 1000 model
[2025-05-30T17:48:59Z] <midfavila> psps are neat
[2025-05-30T17:49:01Z] <midfavila> i had a 2000
[2025-05-30T17:49:07Z] <midfavila> they're amazing for emulation
[2025-05-30T17:49:08Z] <kris_> i wanted one so bad as a kid but never had the money
[2025-05-30T17:49:19Z] <midfavila> fair
[2025-05-30T17:49:22Z] <kris_> i have a ps vita but i dont like taking it out of my house because it feels fragile as fuck
[2025-05-30T17:49:26Z] <kris_> because it *is* fragile as fuck
[2025-05-30T17:49:28Z] <midfavila> yeah the vitas suck
[2025-05-30T17:49:37Z] <kris_> they dont i just don't want it to leave my house because i'm terrified of breaking it
[2025-05-30T17:49:46Z] <kris_> i can run adrenaline on my vita, so just normal psp firmware
[2025-05-30T17:49:59Z] <kris_> also it just doesnt really feel great to hold, its like there's nothing to actually grip
[2025-05-30T17:50:13Z] <midfavila> ngl unless you want to specifically run psp game there's not much reason these days to get a psp specifically
[2025-05-30T17:50:16Z] <kris_> the psp 1000 has those little bumps on the back to kinda grip on
[2025-05-30T17:50:23Z] <kris_> and yes i'm specifically after psp games 
[2025-05-30T17:50:25Z] <kris_> and ps1
[2025-05-30T17:50:25Z] <midfavila> other than i guess the little kid inside :P
[2025-05-30T17:50:26Z] <midfavila> fair
[2025-05-30T17:50:40Z] <midfavila> play patapon
[2025-05-30T17:50:41Z] <midfavila> >:O
[2025-05-30T17:50:41Z] <kris_> there's tons of reasons to get psps i think
[2025-05-30T17:50:50Z] <kris_> they're super cheap, well built, and have a great game library
[2025-05-30T17:50:54Z] <kris_> and big modding scene still
[2025-05-30T17:51:05Z] <midfavila> well yeah
[2025-05-30T17:51:12Z] <midfavila> but like i said that's sort of the main thing
[2025-05-30T17:51:16Z] <midfavila> games and custom firmware
[2025-05-30T17:51:19Z] <midfavila> otherwise meh
[2025-05-30T17:51:32Z] <kris_> i dont buy consoles unless they can be modded because for whatever reason i have more fun fucking with consoles than i do playing games on them
[2025-05-30T17:51:42Z] <midfavila> fair
[2025-05-30T17:51:54Z] <midfavila> should get a PS2
[2025-05-30T17:51:57Z] <kris_> im also a bit of a sony fanboy
[2025-05-30T17:51:57Z] <midfavila> install yellowdog on it
[2025-05-30T17:52:08Z] <kris_> the ps4 and ps5 are a joke
[2025-05-30T17:52:09Z] <midfavila> then port KISS to the PS2 
[2025-05-30T17:52:12Z] <kris_> but ps3 and lower are 10/10
[2025-05-30T17:52:16Z] <kris_> the ps3 is the best console ever made imo
[2025-05-30T17:52:26Z] <midfavila> isn't the CELL processor a pain in the ass though?
[2025-05-30T17:52:36Z] <kris_> the ps3 is just highly complex
[2025-05-30T17:52:41Z] <midfavila> yeah that's a pain in the as
[2025-05-30T17:52:42Z] <midfavila> ass
[2025-05-30T17:52:43Z] <midfavila> lol
[2025-05-30T17:52:49Z] <kris_> nah i think it's really cool
[2025-05-30T17:52:54Z] <midfavila> not saying it's not cool
[2025-05-30T17:52:56Z] <kris_> its 8 cores but the game OS gets 7 because that first one is used for the host
[2025-05-30T17:52:58Z] <midfavila> just saying it's a pain in the ass
[2025-05-30T17:52:59Z] <kris_> virtualization moment
[2025-05-30T17:53:05Z] <kris_> also gentoo officially supports the ps3 lol
[2025-05-30T17:53:10Z] <midfavila> classic
[2025-05-30T17:53:17Z] <kris_> i have three ps3s at the moment
[2025-05-30T17:53:26Z] <midfavila> didn't someone figure out how to jailbreak the ps3 to re-enable linux booting by using a ti84
[2025-05-30T17:53:42Z] <midfavila> yes they did
[2025-05-30T17:53:44Z] <midfavila> that's crazy
[2025-05-30T17:54:01Z] <kris_> dude so
[2025-05-30T17:54:07Z] <midfavila> https://hackaday.com/2010/09/10/playstation-3-exploit-using-a-ti84-calculator/
[2025-05-30T17:54:11Z] <kris_> a little bit ago i got a cfw compatible ps3 slim, one of the models that are actually proper reliable
[2025-05-30T17:54:39Z] <kris_> i bought it on ebay and loaded it up to find it was already CFW'd, and i get to looking around and look at the videos tab and im like oh i guess the seller left videos since this is running rebug
[2025-05-30T17:54:45Z] <kris_> so i click one of the like 50 videos and it's fucking porn
[2025-05-30T17:54:47Z] <kris_> fucktapes, everywhere
[2025-05-30T17:55:13Z] <kris_> at which point it dawned upon me that this is a ps3 that someone actually used and never wiped, there's like 6 user accounts on it and all have different PSNs but still clearly from the same person
[2025-05-30T17:55:16Z] <kris_> so im kinda worried its console banned
[2025-05-30T17:55:36Z] <midfavila> gotta love it when that happens
[2025-05-30T17:55:38Z] <kris_> i get to looking at the messages stored on the console because my curiosity overwhelmed me and it's all related to hacking on call of duty and ddosing people and like generic script kiddie drama
[2025-05-30T17:55:45Z] <midfavila> i've gotten used disks that still had confidential corporate data on them
[2025-05-30T17:55:51Z] <kris_> this is like, a proper relic of the ps3 times
[2025-05-30T17:55:52Z] <midfavila> they just... didn't wipe them
[2025-05-30T17:56:06Z] <midfavila> oh yeah i remember that
[2025-05-30T17:56:11Z] <kris_> i need to revert it to stock eventually but i had intended on making a youtube video out of my process installing gentoo on it
[2025-05-30T17:56:15Z] <midfavila> i used to screw around with MGS PW savedata with some friends
[2025-05-30T17:56:26Z] <kris_> and i havent found a good way to record it yet because i just dont have any places irl that are good for recording
[2025-05-30T17:56:40Z] <midfavila> just do it in a basement or something
[2025-05-30T17:56:58Z] <midfavila> nobody who looks up "compiling gentoo from stage 1 on the ps3" is going to care that you live like asmongold
[2025-05-30T17:57:00Z] <kris_> my phone camera doesn't handle low light situations well so i need to buy like a lamp or something at some point
[2025-05-30T17:57:01Z] <midfavila> lol
[2025-05-30T17:57:12Z] <kris_> i don't live like asmongold :C
[2025-05-30T17:57:20Z] <midfavila> asmonmold
[2025-05-30T17:57:33Z] <midfavila> :3c
[2025-05-30T17:58:58Z] <kris_> https://share.boba.best/raw/WXwarRGw
[2025-05-30T17:59:12Z] <kris_> i did set this up but i need a light so my phone camera stops defocusing and shit when i record an actual video
[2025-05-30T17:59:26Z] <kris_> so funny thing
[2025-05-30T17:59:39Z] <midfavila> nice stack of keyboards
[2025-05-30T17:59:40Z] <kris_> that white background isn't my wall, there's a mirror on that wall and i placed printer paper over it to fool you
[2025-05-30T17:59:52Z] <kris_> and did quite a good job
[2025-05-30T18:05:09Z] <kris_> midfavila also yeah i own too many keyboards
[2025-05-30T18:05:14Z] <kris_> and now ive been thinking about buying that standalone mnt reform keyboard
[2025-05-30T18:10:44Z] <kris_> the layout of the mnt reform keyboard seems kind of ridiculous though and im not sure how i feel about there being no bump on the f and j keycaps but of course im sure the keycaps are easily swappable
[2025-05-30T18:36:55Z] <EliSoli> Do anybody here know if it's possible to stream desktop audio with xdg-desktop-portal-wlr?
[2025-05-30T20:27:25Z] <midfavila> kris_: the mnt layout is fine
[2025-05-30T20:27:32Z] <midfavila> it's odd for maybe two seconds