[2025-07-04T09:06:49Z] <esotericwarfare> hi all
[2025-07-04T09:39:17Z] <riteo> welp
[2025-07-04T09:39:21Z] <riteo> the power really fucking sucks lately
[2025-07-04T09:39:43Z] <riteo> so much that it was my "can eat normal stuff day" and my fucking favourite local pub was without any electric power
[2025-07-04T09:39:55Z] <riteo> for the whole evening
[2025-07-04T11:51:12Z] <esotericwarfare> I build every firmware and I still cannot boot kiss linux without nomodeset :(
[2025-07-04T11:51:42Z] <riteo> esotericwarfare: do you have an initramfs
[2025-07-04T11:51:53Z] <esotericwarfare> Maybe it's the kernel version I use. I ran make defconfig and make localyesconfig enable every single CONFIG_... as core not as module
[2025-07-04T11:51:56Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: no
[2025-07-04T11:52:07Z] <riteo> that's weird then
[2025-07-04T11:52:18Z] <riteo> you should see the kernel logs somehow
[2025-07-04T11:52:28Z] <riteo> there's surely some debug tool somewhere
[2025-07-04T11:52:30Z] <esotericwarfare> I installed Gentoo and I didn't even need the linux-firmware to boot
[2025-07-04T11:52:49Z] <riteo> even if that just means running "dmesg > /help.log" as root
[2025-07-04T11:52:56Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: I can write and I can turn off my pc but I cannot see anything more than "Loading kernel..."
[2025-07-04T11:53:10Z] <riteo> if you can write then try doing that ig
[2025-07-04T11:53:18Z] <riteo> dump dmesg somewhere
[2025-07-04T11:53:19Z] <esotericwarfare> I can write my user and my password and write poweroff and my pc will turn off but I cannot see anything
[2025-07-04T11:53:32Z] <riteo> yea but if you dump dmesg then reboot with nomodeset you can see what's going wrong hopefully
[2025-07-04T11:53:49Z] <esotericwarfare> okay
[2025-07-04T12:05:29Z] <esotericwarfare> dmesg: https://paste.c-net.org/ToothedSlowly
[2025-07-04T12:06:14Z] <esotericwarfare> I paste there with curl --silent --databinary @dmesg.txt 'https://paste.c-net.org' 
[2025-07-04T12:06:24Z] <esotericwarfare> --data-binary*
[2025-07-04T12:41:26Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: When I run make INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 modules_install it says SYMLINK /lib/modules/6.15.4/build INSTALL /lib/modules/6.15.4/modules.order INSTALL /lib/modules/6.15.4/modules.builtin INSTALL /lib/modules/6.15.4/modules.builtin.modinfo DEPMOD /lib/modules/6.15.4
[2025-07-04T12:41:56Z] <esotericwarfare> When in reality that command only has to output DEPMOD /lib/modules/6.15.4 without anything
[2025-07-04T12:42:08Z] <esotericwarfare> I check the make menuconfig but I didn't see any M
[2025-07-04T12:51:52Z] <riteo> esotericwarfare: did you disable module loading 
[2025-07-04T12:51:54Z] <riteo> you can do that
[2025-07-04T12:53:27Z] <esotericwarfare> yes
[2025-07-04T12:53:45Z] <riteo> uh it's not even fetching the firmware
[2025-07-04T12:53:47Z] <riteo> that's weird
[2025-07-04T12:54:22Z] <riteo> do you not even see, like, ttys even if you switch them?
[2025-07-04T12:54:29Z] <riteo> the fact that it works with nomodeset is really weird
[2025-07-04T12:54:40Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: No, I dont see anything I didn't try to run sway tho
[2025-07-04T12:54:53Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: It happens to my running in virtualbox too
[2025-07-04T12:55:08Z] <esotericwarfare> It happened*
[2025-07-04T12:55:21Z] <riteo> gentoo says that you might need CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE
[2025-07-04T12:55:40Z] <riteo> or maybe just pass `acpi_osi="Linux"` to the kernel
[2025-07-04T12:55:56Z] <riteo> see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel#Black_screen
[2025-07-04T12:56:00Z] <riteo> maybe it's an hardware thing
[2025-07-04T12:56:06Z] <riteo> it's really weird
[2025-07-04T12:56:31Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: I did that. I first add nomodeset but it wasn't working so I enable the CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE I tried with the acpi_osi="Linux" too
[2025-07-04T12:59:59Z] <esotericwarfare> I boot archlinux 6.6 I think and downloaded linux kernel 6.15.4 and run make localyesconfig enable every single CONFIG_ but maybe I should download the same kernel version that I was using on my archlinux live
[2025-07-04T13:00:05Z] <riteo> does the vga port work
[2025-07-04T13:00:16Z] <riteo> I wonder if it's redirecting everything to that
[2025-07-04T13:00:37Z] <riteo> I mean it should usually mirror everything to all displays but I'm really not suer what's going on
[2025-07-04T13:00:43Z] <esotericwarfare> I dont have a VGA port only HDMI
[2025-07-04T13:01:00Z] <riteo> uh
[2025-07-04T13:01:02Z] <riteo> well that then
[2025-07-04T13:01:07Z] <riteo> the kernel reports a vga connector too
[2025-07-04T13:01:10Z] <riteo> maybe it's unwired
[2025-07-04T13:04:08Z] <riteo> there's apparently a `video=` argument and I'm reading that some old intel users had to specify that manually
[2025-07-04T13:04:12Z] <riteo> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=145648
[2025-07-04T13:04:40Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: I'll check that
[2025-07-04T13:05:07Z] <riteo> although note that you definitely don't have lvds, just edp
[2025-07-04T13:10:46Z] <esotericwarfare> so I should add video=card0-eDP-1:d ?
[2025-07-04T13:10:58Z] <esotericwarfare> I don't know I never did this
[2025-07-04T13:14:46Z] <riteo> me neither :P
[2025-07-04T13:15:50Z] <riteo> I'd first see what happens through the hdmi honestly
[2025-07-04T13:16:10Z] <esotericwarfare> Okay
[2025-07-04T13:16:26Z] <esotericwarfare> Thanks
[2025-07-04T13:17:41Z] <riteo> hope they read the logs
[2025-07-04T13:17:42Z] <riteo> in case
[2025-07-04T13:17:43Z] <riteo> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.rst
[2025-07-04T13:18:06Z] <riteo> :d disables the output so it's definitely not it, although it might be wise to manually set it ig
[2025-07-04T13:18:56Z] <riteo> maybe ':e' or ':D' might help
[2025-07-04T13:19:01Z] <riteo> those look so much like smileys lmao
[2025-07-04T13:23:17Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: I booted with nomodeset and I did a cd Videos mpv .
[2025-07-04T13:23:25Z] <esotericwarfare> and the video opened
[2025-07-04T13:24:09Z] <esotericwarfare> before I downloaded a video with yt-dlp so I tried to run sway with seatd-launch and it did not work
[2025-07-04T13:24:59Z] <esotericwarfare> so maybe it's some config_framebuffer_console I don't know but I have that enable I'll check that again
[2025-07-04T13:26:05Z] <esotericwarfare> https://paste.c-net.org/ShamedNellie thats the output from running seatd-launch sway 
[2025-07-04T13:26:39Z] <esotericwarfare> If I run with nomodeset it outputs: 0 GPU detected that same command so something is working
[2025-07-04T13:26:47Z] <esotericwarfare> If I boot*
[2025-07-04T13:28:43Z] <esotericwarfare> My user is on the video group
[2025-07-04T13:41:17Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: it didd run sway with seatd-launch sway but I don't know if the keyboard was working because it did not open foot
[2025-07-04T13:41:32Z] <esotericwarfare> all with broken fonts
[2025-07-04T13:55:08Z] <esotericwarfare> I compile the kernel with CONFIG_FB_VESA maybe I need to disable that. My PC has Legacy BOOT compatibility
[2025-07-04T14:02:52Z] <riteo> esotericwarfare: looks like the :d thing disables the output btw
[2025-07-04T14:02:56Z] <riteo> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.rst
[2025-07-04T14:03:11Z] <riteo> with nomodeset you disable a lot of stuff
[2025-07-04T14:03:17Z] <riteo> so I wouldn't rely on it tbh
[2025-07-04T14:03:42Z] <riteo> no wait
[2025-07-04T14:04:04Z] <riteo> ughhhhhhh tbf I'm not entirely sure how much kernel modesetting might be useful but IIRC most wayland compositors depend on that
[2025-07-04T14:04:07Z] <riteo> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel_mode_setting for reference
[2025-07-04T14:07:53Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: I run without nomodeset and without the video= parameter and sway did open but I have to write the command blind because I cannot see the TTY 
[2025-07-04T14:08:14Z] <esotericwarfare> I can watch videos con mpv with DRM from the TTY but I cannot see what I'm typing
[2025-07-04T14:08:23Z] <esotericwarfare> with*
[2025-07-04T14:09:11Z] <riteo> that's interesting
[2025-07-04T14:09:26Z] <riteo> so sway works uh?
[2025-07-04T14:09:31Z] <riteo> I guess the issue is with the tty then
[2025-07-04T14:09:36Z] <esotericwarfare> yes 
[2025-07-04T14:09:41Z] <riteo> do you have getty running
[2025-07-04T14:10:19Z] <esotericwarfare> the tty only works when I write nomodeset
[2025-07-04T14:10:35Z] <riteo> yea but is it still running
[2025-07-04T14:10:43Z] <riteo> even without nomodeset
[2025-07-04T14:11:48Z] <esotericwarfare> I guess yes because I can type my user and password
[2025-07-04T14:11:58Z] <esotericwarfare> but I don't know how do I check
[2025-07-04T14:12:16Z] <riteo> well on sway you can check on htop
[2025-07-04T14:12:46Z] <esotericwarfare> haha I need to reboot 
[2025-07-04T14:12:54Z] <riteo> I think I found it
[2025-07-04T14:12:56Z] <riteo> printk: legacy console [tty0] enabled
[2025-07-04T14:13:16Z] <riteo> nvm
[2025-07-04T14:16:26Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: Now I'm running sway again, I installed the terminus font
[2025-07-04T14:16:37Z] <esotericwarfare> ps aux | grep getty throws me nothing
[2025-07-04T14:16:43Z] <riteo> wat
[2025-07-04T14:16:52Z] <riteo> what if you run it
[2025-07-04T14:16:58Z] <riteo> as root
[2025-07-04T14:17:01Z] <riteo> wait
[2025-07-04T14:17:05Z] <esotericwarfare> nothing
[2025-07-04T14:17:11Z] <riteo> getty 38400 tty1
[2025-07-04T14:17:15Z] <riteo> or getty 38400 tty2
[2025-07-04T14:17:28Z] <riteo> and then you switch to it
[2025-07-04T14:17:36Z] <esotericwarfare> getty 38400 tty1 operation not permitted
[2025-07-04T14:17:42Z] <esotericwarfare> as root
[2025-07-04T14:17:46Z] <riteo> tty2?
[2025-07-04T14:17:51Z] <esotericwarfare> same
[2025-07-04T14:18:21Z] <riteo> uh
[2025-07-04T14:18:25Z] <riteo> you also have a crapton of ttys for some reason
[2025-07-04T14:18:28Z] <riteo> like 53
[2025-07-04T14:19:16Z] <esotericwarfare> when booting nomodeset I only have 2 tty
[2025-07-04T14:19:20Z] <esotericwarfare> TTY1 TTY2
[2025-07-04T14:19:35Z] <esotericwarfare> I guess you're reading from my dmesg
[2025-07-04T14:19:46Z] <riteo> yea
[2025-07-04T14:19:47Z] <esotericwarfare> I'm happy sway works lol
[2025-07-04T14:20:35Z] <esotericwarfare> I'll send a capture when grim finish compiling lol
[2025-07-04T14:20:48Z] <riteo> fair enough
[2025-07-04T14:20:55Z] <riteo> yk I have no idea how it works
[2025-07-04T14:21:00Z] <riteo> like, what spawns getty
[2025-07-04T14:21:09Z] <riteo> ik about some kernel settings though, lemme check
[2025-07-04T14:21:23Z] <esotericwarfare> okay thank you for your time
[2025-07-04T14:23:58Z] <esotericwarfare> In my /etc/inittab I have tty1::respawn:/bin/getty 38400 tty1 
[2025-07-04T14:27:36Z] <esotericwarfare> setsid getty 38400 tty3 works and ps aux | grep getty says that getty is running
[2025-07-04T14:28:24Z] <esotericwarfare> but when I switch to tty3 it doesnt work
[2025-07-04T14:29:56Z] <riteo> btw yea it was inittab not the kernl
[2025-07-04T14:30:22Z] <riteo> yk what
[2025-07-04T14:30:34Z] <riteo> try installing util-linux and switching getty to agetty
[2025-07-04T14:30:41Z] <riteo> maybe there's something funky with getty
[2025-07-04T14:31:09Z] <esotericwarfare> Okay installing util-linux
[2025-07-04T14:32:02Z] <esotericwarfare> I think I already install that 
[2025-07-04T14:32:19Z] <esotericwarfare> but kiss do not detected if I install the package before
[2025-07-04T14:33:36Z] <riteo> kiss l | grep util-linux
[2025-07-04T14:33:39Z] <riteo> and you can find out
[2025-07-04T14:33:45Z] <riteo> wait you don't need the grep
[2025-07-04T14:33:50Z] <riteo> even just kiss l util-linux
[2025-07-04T14:34:16Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: Oh right I forgot kiss list thanks
[2025-07-04T14:34:22Z] <esotericwarfare> so yea I have util-linux installed
[2025-07-04T14:34:36Z] <esotericwarfare> util-linux 2.41-1
[2025-07-04T14:35:10Z] <esotericwarfare> So from the /etc/inittab I switch getty to agetty
[2025-07-04T14:35:16Z] <riteo> yea
[2025-07-04T14:35:38Z] <esotericwarfare> done. now reboot?
[2025-07-04T14:35:56Z] <riteo> ig
[2025-07-04T14:38:38Z] <esotericwarfare> now I see getty running: ps aux | grep getty
[2025-07-04T14:39:11Z] <esotericwarfare> but I cannot use the tty
[2025-07-04T14:39:19Z] <esotericwarfare> agetty*
[2025-07-04T14:49:40Z] <esotericwarfare> should I disable CONFIG_FB_VESA? If I'm using EFI?
[2025-07-04T14:49:46Z] <esotericwarfare> but I have legacy boot enable on the BIOS
[2025-07-04T14:49:55Z] <esotericwarfare> i dont know if that has something to do with it
[2025-07-04T15:18:06Z] <midfavila> morning computer smoochers
[2025-07-04T15:18:15Z] <midfavila> i'm so glad it's friday
[2025-07-04T15:18:19Z] * midfavila dies
[2025-07-04T15:31:36Z] <riteo> esotericwarfare: I don't think so
[2025-07-04T15:31:48Z] <riteo> morning mid :3
[2025-07-04T15:34:21Z] <midfavila> hi riteo :ooooooooooooo
[2025-07-04T15:34:50Z] <esotericwarfare> I don't know then. Now I'm compiling firefox
[2025-07-04T15:34:52Z] <esotericwarfare> hi midfavila 
[2025-07-04T15:37:04Z] <riteo> lemme guess agetty didn't work?
[2025-07-04T15:41:10Z] <esotericwarfare> nop
[2025-07-04T15:41:19Z] <esotericwarfare> its running tho
[2025-07-04T15:53:43Z] <esotericwarfare> riteo: with or without the firmware the TTY never worked without the nomodeset
[2025-07-04T16:09:17Z] <midfavila> >compiling firefox
[2025-07-04T16:09:18Z] <midfavila> pain
[2025-07-04T16:09:19Z] <midfavila> pain
[2025-07-04T16:09:20Z] <midfavila> pain
[2025-07-04T16:09:20Z] <midfavila> pain
[2025-07-04T16:09:23Z] <midfavila> pain
[2025-07-04T16:09:25Z] <midfavila> pain
[2025-07-04T16:09:31Z] <LeoM> pain
[2025-07-04T16:10:00Z] <vulpine> bread
[2025-07-04T16:10:07Z] <midfavila> what kind tho
[2025-07-04T16:53:41Z] <kris_> i'm not looking forward to today
[2025-07-04T16:53:44Z] <kris_> there's going to be so much loud
[2025-07-04T16:54:27Z] <midfavila> YEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
[2025-07-04T16:54:30Z] <midfavila> FREEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
[2025-07-04T16:54:34Z] <midfavila> EAAAAAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEE
[2025-07-04T16:54:36Z] <midfavila> CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
[2025-07-04T16:54:49Z] <midfavila> BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG
[2025-07-04T16:55:18Z] <midfavila> :3c
[2025-07-04T16:55:28Z] <kris_> i went to a party last night and there was already a shit ton of loud
[2025-07-04T16:55:34Z] <kris_> copious amounts of loud
[2025-07-04T16:55:57Z] <midfavila> you just hate freedom
[2025-07-04T16:55:58Z] <kris_> usually people shoot off shit tons of fireworks nightly in the 2 weeks leading up to the 4th
[2025-07-04T16:55:58Z] <midfavila> smd
[2025-07-04T16:55:59Z] <midfavila> hh
[2025-07-04T16:56:11Z] <kris_> freedom just means expecting to be allowed to be an annoying douchebag
[2025-07-04T16:56:19Z] <kris_> apparently
[2025-07-04T16:56:22Z] <midfavila> yes
[2025-07-04T16:56:32Z] <midfavila> it literally does in the sense used by liberals and tories
[2025-07-04T16:56:33Z] <midfavila> lol
[2025-07-04T16:56:53Z] <midfavila> or the dempublican one-party establishment
[2025-07-04T16:56:59Z] <kris_> i think this country needs more people like ron swanson
[2025-07-04T16:57:10Z] <midfavila> needs more mamdanis
[2025-07-04T16:59:53Z] <kris_> i will continue sitting here writing my shitty little fetch program instead of watching things blow up
[2025-07-04T17:00:02Z] <kris_> i do really like how fireworks look it's just so fucking loud
[2025-07-04T18:55:14Z] <kris_> midfavila: do you like radiohead
[2025-07-04T18:56:28Z] <midfavila> i'm not a "music" guy
[2025-07-04T18:56:33Z] <midfavila> so idk who that is
[2025-07-04T18:58:21Z] <midfavila> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2HXZ6ydcJU
[2025-07-04T18:58:28Z] <midfavila> tfw 14.2% youth unemployment
[2025-07-04T18:58:39Z] * midfavila dies
[2025-07-04T18:58:48Z] <kris_> midfavila: unlucky, i love radiohead
[2025-07-04T18:59:01Z] <kris_> though they kinda unintentionally started the age of music streaming
[2025-07-04T18:59:36Z] <kris_> snowball effect from them being tired of labels taking most of their money so they just posted a zip archive online and said "pay however much you want for it, is our new album"
[2025-07-04T18:59:41Z] <kris_> which went incredibly well for them actually
[2025-07-04T19:00:01Z] <kris_> like literally you could either have it for free or enter an amount you wanted to pay for the download and that was that 
[2025-07-04T19:00:16Z] <midfavila> yeah people want to support people who do cool stuff
[2025-07-04T19:02:33Z] <kris_> midfavila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CVsCnxyXg
[2025-07-04T19:07:07Z] <kris_> also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCOSb2_QPdk
[2025-07-04T19:07:10Z] <kris_> one of my favorite live performances
[2025-07-04T19:08:10Z] <midfavila> sorry, not really in a mood to do music
[2025-07-04T19:08:14Z] <midfavila> i'll listen to it later
[2025-07-04T19:08:19Z] <kris_> all good
[2025-07-04T19:09:00Z] <midfavila> yeah i've been dooming pretty fucking hard this week so
[2025-07-04T19:09:03Z] * midfavila dies again
[2025-07-04T19:10:55Z] <esotericwarfare> kiss b tree: failed to download http://mama.indstate.edu/users/tree/src/tree-2.1.1.tgz
[2025-07-04T19:11:46Z] <esotericwarfare> I guess I'll download it manually
[2025-07-04T19:41:57Z] <kris_> riteo !!!!