[2025-08-02T00:23:41Z] <midfavila> kris_ my tangara arrived today
[2025-08-02T00:23:55Z] <midfavila> it's a surprisingly hefty little thing
[2025-08-02T00:24:38Z] <midfavila> build quality is really solid
[2025-08-02T00:24:44Z] <kris_> oh you got one??
[2025-08-02T00:24:47Z] <midfavila> yeap
[2025-08-02T00:24:48Z] <kris_> i thought they were still in preorder
[2025-08-02T00:24:49Z] <midfavila> using it rn
[2025-08-02T00:24:51Z] <midfavila> nope
[2025-08-02T00:25:03Z] <midfavila> i mean there's like an iterative process going on ig
[2025-08-02T00:25:10Z] <midfavila> the most recent phase was the first run 
[2025-08-02T00:25:18Z] <midfavila> which is what i managed to squeeze into
[2025-08-02T00:25:29Z] <kris_> hows the sound / UX
[2025-08-02T00:25:31Z] <midfavila> now ig they're waiting for feedback for a second hardware revision
[2025-08-02T00:25:42Z] <midfavila> ux isn't something *i* like but i'm a ux boomer
[2025-08-02T00:25:54Z] <midfavila> if you're a fan of the wheel thing you would like it prolly
[2025-08-02T00:26:00Z] <midfavila> it's not clicky, just capacitive 
[2025-08-02T00:26:04Z] <midfavila> but it's serviceable 
[2025-08-02T00:26:07Z] <kris_> dunno never used the wheel
[2025-08-02T00:26:13Z] <midfavila> the hardware overall is really nice
[2025-08-02T00:26:17Z] <kris_> midfavila: i'm also a ux boomer to most people since i literally only like i3/sway
[2025-08-02T00:26:22Z] <midfavila> like i said, thick, sturdy plastic shell
[2025-08-02T00:26:24Z] <kris_> so maybe its up my alley, who knows
[2025-08-02T00:26:29Z] <midfavila> buttons are actually metal of some sort
[2025-08-02T00:26:37Z] <midfavila> aluminium or steel presumably
[2025-08-02T00:26:53Z] <kris_> seems pretty nice tbh
[2025-08-02T00:26:54Z] <midfavila> it's chunky enough to fit well in your hand but not overly so
[2025-08-02T00:26:57Z] <kris_> does the case feel 3d printed? it looks 3d printed
[2025-08-02T00:26:59Z] <midfavila> charges insanely fast
[2025-08-02T00:27:02Z] <midfavila> no, it doesn't
[2025-08-02T00:27:17Z] <midfavila> it's smooth in the hand and, like i said, there's no flex 
[2025-08-02T00:27:29Z] <kris_> sounds nice
[2025-08-02T00:27:36Z] <midfavila> i'm very pleased with it
[2025-08-02T00:27:42Z] <midfavila> the sound is very... neutral
[2025-08-02T00:27:45Z] <midfavila> in a good way
[2025-08-02T00:28:00Z] <midfavila> it reminds me a lot of my asus sound card 
[2025-08-02T00:28:18Z] <midfavila> even with some shitty dollar store earbuds there's a significant improvement over my phone and even my laptop
[2025-08-02T00:28:23Z] <midfavila> to be expected but still
[2025-08-02T00:28:38Z] <midfavila> the software is barebones but serviceable esp for what amounts to a beta
[2025-08-02T00:28:45Z] <midfavila> UI is clean and simple
[2025-08-02T00:28:54Z] <midfavila> there's a high contrast theme in addition to light and dark which i appreciate
[2025-08-02T00:29:31Z] <midfavila> the font isn't anti-aliased and it's an appropriate scale so it's very crisp
[2025-08-02T00:29:44Z] <midfavila> loading music is delightfully easy
[2025-08-02T00:30:16Z] <midfavila> i just pop the SD out of its side, slide it into my laptop, mount it, and dump some WAVs or MP3s on it, then stick it back in and i'm off
[2025-08-02T00:30:35Z] <midfavila> it doesn't like to show files without metadata in the standard view which is annoying
[2025-08-02T00:30:43Z] <midfavila> you have to use the file browser
[2025-08-02T00:30:52Z] <midfavila> but even on phones that's normal
[2025-08-02T00:31:12Z] <midfavila> all in all i'm pretty impressed after the first fifteen or twenty minutes
[2025-08-02T00:31:20Z] <midfavila> charges insanely fast too
[2025-08-02T00:31:30Z] <midfavila> like 10% in five minutes or less
[2025-08-02T00:31:51Z] <midfavila> the packaging is barebones but serviceable which i like
[2025-08-02T00:31:58Z] <midfavila> there's no unnecessary parts or flourishes 
[2025-08-02T00:32:15Z] <midfavila> kind of reminds me of the stuff i've gotten from pine64, in a good way
[2025-08-02T00:32:25Z] <kris_> a lot of pines stuff is kinda shit
[2025-08-02T00:32:31Z] <kris_> i like my pinetime and pinecil
[2025-08-02T00:32:43Z] <midfavila> i think people's expectations for pine are out of wack
[2025-08-02T00:33:02Z] <kris_> ill have to look into the tangara at some point but i'm more inclined to just get an ipod classic and flash rockbox on it
[2025-08-02T00:33:02Z] <midfavila> a 200$ laptop using an old ARM processor isn't going to be useful for most people lol
[2025-08-02T00:33:04Z] <kris_> no need for the default firmware
[2025-08-02T00:33:27Z] <kris_> midfavila: really i just wish they'd make a linux phone with decent hardware
[2025-08-02T00:33:35Z] <kris_> especially given the EU may or may not have just killed custom ROMs on android devices
[2025-08-02T00:33:39Z] <midfavila> have you considered coping 
[2025-08-02T00:33:42Z] <midfavila> unironically
[2025-08-02T00:33:48Z] <kris_> is to be seen whether or not they did
[2025-08-02T00:33:51Z] <midfavila> seriously what's wrong with the pinephone
[2025-08-02T00:33:58Z] <midfavila> everyone always complains about it, idgi
[2025-08-02T00:34:05Z] <kris_> nothing you're not going to make fun of me for
[2025-08-02T00:34:12Z] <kris_> :p
[2025-08-02T00:34:13Z] <midfavila> almost certainly
[2025-08-02T00:34:36Z] <midfavila> but you're also talking to potentially the only person on the planet to be seriously attempting to use the uconsole r01 as a cellphone
[2025-08-02T00:34:41Z] <midfavila> so idk what you expect
[2025-08-02T00:35:16Z] <kris_> i expect to get made fun of a bit like i said before 
[2025-08-02T00:35:18Z] <kris_> :ppp
[2025-08-02T00:35:27Z] <kris_> but yeah i'm inclined to get an ipod classic at some point but its situational
[2025-08-02T00:35:35Z] <kris_> i might just bite the streaming bullet but like with my own stuff
[2025-08-02T00:35:39Z] <kris_> i can just vpn into my home network and use my jellyfin
[2025-08-02T00:35:39Z] <midfavila> you know what i need to do actually
[2025-08-02T00:35:43Z] <kris_> which i already have both things set up
[2025-08-02T00:35:49Z] <midfavila> i need to get a little pouch for this thing for my belt
[2025-08-02T00:35:55Z] <midfavila> just for the ~vibes~
[2025-08-02T00:35:57Z] <kris_> omg you totally are a phone holster type
[2025-08-02T00:36:00Z] <midfavila> yes
[2025-08-02T00:36:02Z] <midfavila> i am
[2025-08-02T00:36:12Z] <midfavila> i already have two holsters on my belt for my knife and multitool
[2025-08-02T00:36:18Z] <kris_> my knife just goes in my pocket
[2025-08-02T00:36:27Z] <kris_> i don't usually wear a belt
[2025-08-02T00:36:33Z] <midfavila> i use my pockets for other things 
[2025-08-02T00:36:57Z] <kris_> left pocket: phone, right pocket: lightning OTF knife, vape, potentially airpods depending on what im doing
[2025-08-02T00:37:05Z] <kris_> if im wearing my cargo pants i put my wallet in a cargo pocket
[2025-08-02T00:37:08Z] <midfavila> >airpods
[2025-08-02T00:37:09Z] <midfavila> you would
[2025-08-02T00:37:12Z] <kris_> no lol
[2025-08-02T00:37:17Z] <kris_> someone gifted them to me i did not go out of my way to get these
[2025-08-02T00:37:22Z] <kris_> but they're useful for when i'm running or whatever it may be
[2025-08-02T00:37:24Z] <midfavila> don't care
[2025-08-02T00:37:28Z] <midfavila> bullying you anyway
[2025-08-02T00:37:34Z] <kris_> and the ANC is legitimately good so 
[2025-08-02T00:37:37Z] <kris_> im not gonna hate *too* much
[2025-08-02T00:37:47Z] <midfavila> infinite jihad against applel infidels
[2025-08-02T00:37:49Z] <midfavila> :gun:
[2025-08-02T00:37:49Z] <kris_> fwiw ive had them since like 2019
[2025-08-02T00:37:54Z] <kris_> they've been charged maybe 10 times
[2025-08-02T00:37:57Z] <kris_> rn they're just dead sitting in my drawer
[2025-08-02T00:38:03Z] <midfavila> it's a matter of PRINCIPLE
[2025-08-02T00:38:15Z] <midfavila> >:c
[2025-08-02T00:38:18Z] <kris_> i make up for the principle by wearing my pinetime 24/7
[2025-08-02T00:38:27Z] <midfavila> smartwatches are silly
[2025-08-02T00:38:35Z] <kris_> i didnt want this thing either but i felt it necessary
[2025-08-02T00:38:43Z] <midfavila> just get a terrorist watch
[2025-08-02T00:38:44Z] <midfavila> the uhhh
[2025-08-02T00:38:47Z] <midfavila> casio f91w
[2025-08-02T00:38:48Z] <midfavila> or whatever
[2025-08-02T00:38:48Z] <kris_> i can't stand having my phone not on vibrate and sometimes i miss texts and people get really sensitive about my not answering texts 
[2025-08-02T00:38:54Z] <kris_> because i touch my phone for maybe 20 minutes per day at most
[2025-08-02T00:38:58Z] <midfavila> tell them to cope
[2025-08-02T00:38:58Z] <kris_> so sometimes i just dont notice
[2025-08-02T00:39:15Z] <midfavila> at this point i tell people i don't have a cellphone specifically to avoid getting texts
[2025-08-02T00:39:16Z] <kris_> mfw people ask me why my oneplus 8t lasts like a full week or a week and a half on a charge
[2025-08-02T00:39:19Z] <midfavila> i do not WANT to hear from you
[2025-08-02T00:39:20Z] <midfavila> i am SORRY
[2025-08-02T00:39:28Z] <midfavila> i have a fucking LIFE i have to live
[2025-08-02T00:39:37Z] <midfavila> you do NOT have to text me at a moment's notice
[2025-08-02T00:39:49Z] <kris_> ive found a valid strat to be asking "do you have a nick on liberachat?" when someone wants some sort of online contact with me
[2025-08-02T00:39:54Z] <midfavila> literally nothing you have to say is so important it can't be an email 
[2025-08-02T00:39:57Z] <kris_> they usually just don't press further once i tell them to use IRC
[2025-08-02T00:40:12Z] <midfavila> i'm not going to tell my boss to irc me
[2025-08-02T00:40:23Z] <kris_> anyone who MIGHT need to get into contact with me immediately has my phone # and can use regular old ass SMS
[2025-08-02T00:41:03Z] <midfavila> if sdf's telco system can do SMS i might see if there's a way i can handle SMS as email
[2025-08-02T00:41:17Z] <kris_> i just pay $30/month for atnt prepaid
[2025-08-02T00:41:24Z] <midfavila> that's a scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:25Z] <midfavila> scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:26Z] <midfavila> scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:26Z] <midfavila> scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:27Z] <midfavila> scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:28Z] <kris_> unlimited calls, texts, 10gb of data with 1 month rollover so more realistically 20gb of data
[2025-08-02T00:41:29Z] <midfavila> scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:30Z] <kris_> 100mbps up and down
[2025-08-02T00:41:32Z] <midfavila> scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:35Z] <midfavila> scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:35Z] <kris_> why is this a scam
[2025-08-02T00:41:44Z] <midfavila> cellular service is inherently a scam unless it's for flat rate data
[2025-08-02T00:41:58Z] <kris_> why do you think i use prepaid
[2025-08-02T00:42:01Z] <kris_> i get the amount of data i get
[2025-08-02T00:42:09Z] <midfavila> sms and voice use trivial amounts of bandwidth and i refuse to pay for them as discrete services at all
[2025-08-02T00:42:16Z] <kris_> it just has the 1 month rollover thing so if i dont use a full 10gb in 1 month, it adds up to the next month
[2025-08-02T00:42:28Z] <midfavila> i'll stick with my flat rate data
[2025-08-02T00:42:42Z] <midfavila> sdf does unlimited global telephony for like 60$ a year
[2025-08-02T00:42:47Z] <kris_> this is like the best option
[2025-08-02T00:42:52Z] <midfavila> false
[2025-08-02T00:42:57Z] <midfavila> i reject your limited world view
[2025-08-02T00:42:59Z] <kris_> i used to use a different carrier but they dropped support for my phone randomly and took my phone number with them
[2025-08-02T00:43:03Z] <kris_> that shit was a fucking nightmare
[2025-08-02T00:43:06Z] <midfavila> america moment
[2025-08-02T00:43:08Z] <kris_> so many accounts tied to that number
[2025-08-02T00:43:10Z] <kris_> like my bank account
[2025-08-02T00:43:16Z] <midfavila> why does america have such a stupid telco system
[2025-08-02T00:43:21Z] <kris_> it was just that one
[2025-08-02T00:43:23Z] <midfavila> it's even worse than canada's
[2025-08-02T00:43:31Z] <midfavila> like why do you guys lock your phones to certain carriers
[2025-08-02T00:43:33Z] <kris_> they got bought out by verizon and dropped support for phones that aren't compatible with whatever technology verizon wants to use
[2025-08-02T00:43:33Z] <midfavila> that's weird
[2025-08-02T00:43:36Z] <kris_> my phone is like
[2025-08-02T00:43:37Z] <kris_> GSM only iirc
[2025-08-02T00:43:54Z] <kris_> midfavila: you dont need to do that, most people just choose to
[2025-08-02T00:44:02Z] <kris_> the carrier will sell you a phone for cheaper if you commit to using only them
[2025-08-02T00:44:07Z] <kris_> but i buy my phones directly from the manufacturers website
[2025-08-02T00:44:09Z] <kris_> so they're unlocked
[2025-08-02T00:44:10Z] <midfavila> yeah but it should be illegal
[2025-08-02T00:44:16Z] <midfavila> it is here
[2025-08-02T00:44:16Z] <kris_> should be but people are stupid
[2025-08-02T00:44:38Z] <midfavila> and if you have a pre-legislation device that is locked, any and all carriers are obligated to unlock it for you for free
[2025-08-02T00:44:40Z] <kris_> the solution is to just not buy a phone you don't have the money for (a lot of people will pay monthly contracts)
[2025-08-02T00:44:44Z] <kris_> and buy from the manufacturer instead
[2025-08-02T00:44:47Z] <kris_> so its not carrier flavored lol
[2025-08-02T00:44:59Z] <midfavila> the solution is to smash private telco monopolies 
[2025-08-02T00:45:06Z] <kris_> atnt has treated me well so far
[2025-08-02T00:45:10Z] <kris_> verizon is BAAAAD
[2025-08-02T00:45:21Z] <kris_> atnt also wins with home internet here
[2025-08-02T00:45:27Z] <midfavila> the only telco in canada i've had good experiences with is sasktel 
[2025-08-02T00:45:31Z] <midfavila> which is government
[2025-08-02T00:45:31Z] <kris_> it isnt stupidly overpriced and you dont have to pay extra for unlimited data
[2025-08-02T00:45:41Z] <kris_> and they offer actual real fiber to your house and insane speeds
[2025-08-02T00:45:41Z] <midfavila> see that's another wonky thing
[2025-08-02T00:45:52Z] <midfavila> we haven't had limited home data in like at least a decade
[2025-08-02T00:45:55Z] <kris_> its only xfinity that does that and they're stopping that soon anyway
[2025-08-02T00:45:58Z] <kris_> capitalism worked w that one
[2025-08-02T00:46:10Z] * midfavila bites tongue
[2025-08-02T00:46:11Z] <kris_> they lost a SHIT TON of customers because other ISPs dont make you pay for unlimited data
[2025-08-02T00:46:21Z] <kris_> so they decided to like not do that anymore
[2025-08-02T00:46:34Z] <kris_> the problem is, you have to actually call them and switch over to one of the unlimited data built in plans
[2025-08-02T00:46:44Z] <kris_> it wont happen automatically and they dont actually alert you
[2025-08-02T00:46:48Z] <kris_> so i need to do that shortly
[2025-08-02T00:47:12Z] <midfavila> is it true that in capitalist america, you need to drink verification cans and say mcdonalds to get tv adverts to end
[2025-08-02T00:47:22Z] <kris_> ..verification cans?
[2025-08-02T00:47:27Z] <midfavila> verification cans
[2025-08-02T00:47:49Z] <kris_> idk nobody watches tv
[2025-08-02T00:48:01Z] <kris_> everyones all about paying for 15 different streaming services so they can consoom and spend like $200 per month on bullshit
[2025-08-02T00:48:05Z] <kris_> though piracy is making a comeback due to that
[2025-08-02T00:48:07Z] <kris_> funny thing
[2025-08-02T00:48:16Z] <kris_> the FBI is now shutting down >video game ROM websites
[2025-08-02T00:48:23Z] <kris_> you'd think they have better things to be doing but apparently not
[2025-08-02T00:48:53Z] <midfavila> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSEAdF5WsAA4XBM?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
[2025-08-02T00:49:34Z] <kris_> ive not heard of this
[2025-08-02T00:49:49Z] <kris_> nor the "say mcdonalds" thing
[2025-08-02T00:50:59Z] <midfavila> http://0x0.st/87Q4.jpg
[2025-08-02T00:54:38Z] <kris_> ugh
[2025-08-02T00:54:47Z] <kris_> after this weekend i need to update to the next release of openwrt
[2025-08-02T00:54:51Z] <kris_> i actually hate openwrts update process
[2025-08-02T01:01:57Z] <midfavila> such is the price of freedom
[2025-08-02T01:02:10Z] <kris_> problem will apparently be fixed soon
[2025-08-02T01:02:16Z] <kris_> apparently they're moving to alpines apk instead of opkg
[2025-08-02T01:02:16Z] <midfavila> a heavy burden to bear for sure
[2025-08-02T01:02:26Z] <midfavila> oh that's actually a good change
[2025-08-02T01:02:27Z] <midfavila> nice
[2025-08-02T01:02:32Z] <midfavila> i don't mind apk
[2025-08-02T01:02:34Z] <kris_> yeah so its gonna just be
[2025-08-02T01:02:36Z] <kris_> apk update
[2025-08-02T01:04:09Z] <midfavila> doing a little more fiddling with the tangara
[2025-08-02T01:04:16Z] <midfavila> can actually just mount the SD card over usb
[2025-08-02T01:04:17Z] <midfavila> niec
[2025-08-02T01:04:18Z] <midfavila> nice
[2025-08-02T01:04:35Z] <kris_> yeah thats part of what i'm excited for with the ipod classic as well
[2025-08-02T01:04:41Z] <kris_> you can also literally just do that if you're running rockbox on it
[2025-08-02T01:04:57Z] <midfavila> yeah but the ipod classic doesn't have open source hardware 
[2025-08-02T01:04:58Z] * midfavila sniffs
[2025-08-02T01:05:03Z] <kris_> that is true
[2025-08-02T01:05:18Z] <midfavila> one of my goals is to stick to open hardware as much as possible 
[2025-08-02T01:05:56Z] <midfavila> the only thing i have that's not at least ostensibly open hardware at this point is my desktop and that's going to change in the future
[2025-08-02T01:06:16Z] <midfavila> tablet, handheld, laptop, and now my music player are all open source across the board
[2025-08-02T01:11:42Z] <kris_> boring
[2025-08-02T01:11:47Z] <kris_> you get to just >do what you want to with it inherently
[2025-08-02T01:12:11Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-08-02T01:12:13Z] <midfavila> that's the point
[2025-08-02T01:12:14Z] <midfavila> lo
[2025-08-02T01:12:15Z] <midfavila> l
[2025-08-02T01:12:17Z] <midfavila> we've been over this
[2025-08-02T01:12:20Z] <kris_> that we have
[2025-08-02T01:12:23Z] <midfavila> i'm lazy
[2025-08-02T01:12:30Z] <midfavila> i don't want the computer to talk back to me
[2025-08-02T01:12:36Z] <midfavila> i want it to do what i tell it to without questions
[2025-08-02T01:12:45Z] <midfavila> do NOT speak to me in the language of your gods
[2025-08-02T01:12:52Z] <midfavila> >:c
[2025-08-02T01:13:22Z] <midfavila> srsly if i hear the self-checkout lock up and say "unexpected item in the bagging area" because i fucking breathed wrong or something one more time i'm gonna punch it
[2025-08-02T01:14:10Z] <midfavila> similarly i don't want to have to bully my computer to get it to run twm
[2025-08-02T01:15:31Z] <kris_> wee wooo sd card
[2025-08-02T01:15:39Z] <midfavila> weewooweewooweewoo
[2025-08-02T01:15:58Z] <midfavila> phoebos: can you put that in the channel message
[2025-08-02T01:16:03Z] <midfavila> it would make me unreasonably happy
[2025-08-02T01:16:42Z] <kris_> gotta order some microsd cards
[2025-08-02T01:16:53Z] <midfavila> aliexpress time
[2025-08-02T01:16:57Z] <kris_> nah amazoon
[2025-08-02T01:17:01Z] <midfavila> disgusting 
[2025-08-02T01:17:04Z] <kris_> gonna get some samsung pro endurance ones
[2025-08-02T01:17:10Z] <kris_> they're rated for more tbw than my desktops ssds are even
[2025-08-02T01:17:12Z] <kris_> its kind of insane
[2025-08-02T01:17:24Z] <midfavila> just don't write to flash storage
[2025-08-02T01:17:26Z] * midfavila sniffs
[2025-08-02T01:17:37Z] <kris_> nah ones for my rpi
[2025-08-02T01:17:42Z] <kris_> other ones for my ps vita
[2025-08-02T01:17:48Z] <kris_> i dont think im going to order a psp
[2025-08-02T01:17:57Z] <kris_> i **really** want one but i also know it's stupid when i have a vita
[2025-08-02T01:18:10Z] <midfavila> the psp is comfy though
[2025-08-02T01:18:18Z] <midfavila> unironically peak consoomption device
[2025-08-02T01:18:20Z] <kris_> its an impulse purchase that i may not even use
[2025-08-02T01:18:26Z] <kris_> i can run psp firmware on my ps vita
[2025-08-02T01:18:28Z] <kris_> isnt even emulated
[2025-08-02T01:18:32Z] <midfavila> the psp is one of the few things i won't bully you for buying 
[2025-08-02T01:18:53Z] <kris_> i never owned one as a kid
[2025-08-02T01:18:55Z] <kris_> couldnt afford it
[2025-08-02T01:19:01Z] <kris_> so part of it is because i just always really wanted one
[2025-08-02T01:19:06Z] <midfavila> my dad gave me his old one 
[2025-08-02T01:19:10Z] <midfavila> it's 100% worth it
[2025-08-02T01:19:18Z] <kris_> i got my vita when i was like 14 for my birthday
[2025-08-02T01:19:22Z] <kris_> borderlands 2 bundle 
[2025-08-02T01:19:25Z] <kris_> one of the best games ever
[2025-08-02T01:19:32Z] <midfavila> you fucking would
[2025-08-02T01:19:38Z] <kris_> ??
[2025-08-02T01:19:38Z] <midfavila> -999999999999 social credits
[2025-08-02T01:19:48Z] <midfavila> >borderlands
[2025-08-02T01:19:49Z] <midfavila> >.>
[2025-08-02T01:19:53Z] <kris_> ITS GOOD
[2025-08-02T01:20:02Z] <midfavila> lol
[2025-08-02T01:20:38Z] <kris_> if i were to get a psp though id probably get the original model
[2025-08-02T01:20:46Z] <kris_> the slims look 20x better and have double the ram but they dont have the hand bumps
[2025-08-02T01:20:52Z] <kris_> the main complaint with the vita i have is that it sucks to hold it
[2025-08-02T01:20:56Z] <kris_> its too thin and has nothing to grip
[2025-08-02T01:21:09Z] <kris_> i do have the vita slim though so
[2025-08-02T01:21:25Z] <midfavila> "gee willikers champ i dunno if you noticed but with the station's power generator offline we aren't getting any air. and you know what air has? oxygen. and you know what happens if you don't have oxygen? wanna guess? yeah that's right, you smarty, you. you die. so, unless you wanna die - dark! - it might be best to find some power cells on the raiders nearby and get that back online. get one in the 
[2025-08-02T01:21:31Z] <midfavila> stomach for me!"
[2025-08-02T01:21:34Z] <midfavila> borderlands writing smdh
[2025-08-02T01:21:54Z] <midfavila> the psp 1000 has peak ergo
[2025-08-02T01:21:54Z] <kris_> look i really enjoyed bl2 
[2025-08-02T01:22:07Z] <kris_> i played a tiny amount of the first one with my little cousin
[2025-08-02T01:22:09Z] <kris_> splitscreened on my ps3
[2025-08-02T01:22:15Z] <kris_> we spent more time on little big planet though
[2025-08-02T01:22:21Z] <midfavila> little big planet is based
[2025-08-02T01:22:29Z] <midfavila> i've 100%'d almost all of them
[2025-08-02T01:22:35Z] <kris_> ive barely played them
[2025-08-02T01:22:46Z] <midfavila> actually lbp2 was my first introduction to programming, oddly enough
[2025-08-02T01:22:52Z] <kris_> my cousin and i just used to do this thing every weekend where i'd go to the store and buy a bunch of bullshit food like chips and energy drinks and soda and etc 
[2025-08-02T01:23:03Z] <midfavila> there's a pretty advanced logic gate system in it
[2025-08-02T01:23:04Z] <kris_> and we'd pick a game to "legally acquire" on my ps3 and splitscreen it
[2025-08-02T01:23:06Z] <kris_> was fun
[2025-08-02T01:23:17Z] <kris_> eventually he got older and just wanted to scroll tiktoks though so 
[2025-08-02T01:23:18Z] <kris_> shame
[2025-08-02T01:23:24Z] <midfavila> many such cases
[2025-08-02T01:23:25Z] <midfavila> alas
[2025-08-02T01:23:36Z] <kris_> he's actually becoming incredibly based now
[2025-08-02T01:23:46Z] <kris_> surprised me
[2025-08-02T01:23:51Z] <kris_> he's going for some sort of forestry degree and is into like, welding
[2025-08-02T01:23:59Z] <midfavila> nice
[2025-08-02T01:24:00Z] <kris_> specifically because he values things that are actually physical and real
[2025-08-02T01:24:07Z] <kris_> idk im proud
[2025-08-02T01:24:13Z] <midfavila> if i went back to school it would be for locksmithing
[2025-08-02T01:24:22Z] <kris_> my classes start in like 3 weeks
[2025-08-02T01:24:35Z] <midfavila> i'd go for CS but it's too expensive, there's no jobs, and i'd have to take summer classes for like three fucking years to qualify 
[2025-08-02T01:24:43Z] <midfavila> because i chose the wrong science credit in high school
[2025-08-02T01:24:43Z] <kris_> soon i'm not going to have much time to play games or dick around with linux sadly
[2025-08-02T01:24:53Z] <kris_> gonna be working a job on campus as well because i qualify for work study
[2025-08-02T01:25:06Z] <kris_> probably work in the library or something and just sit there and vibe most of the time though tbf
[2025-08-02T01:25:07Z] <midfavila> i'm still super fucking mad that unis here don't accept high school CS credits as science credits for entry purposes 
[2025-08-02T01:25:15Z] <kris_> and yeah i'm going for CS
[2025-08-02T01:25:24Z] <kris_> the program at this specific uni is incredibly well regarded in the US
[2025-08-02T01:25:28Z] <midfavila> yeah you've said
[2025-08-02T01:25:31Z] <midfavila> = w=;
[2025-08-02T01:25:32Z] <kris_> and is generalized enough that it doesnt pidgeonhole me
[2025-08-02T01:25:37Z] <kris_> i just hope i don't hate it
[2025-08-02T01:25:48Z] <midfavila> get ready to spend a semester learning scratch
[2025-08-02T01:25:53Z] <kris_> i have a history of not uh
[2025-08-02T01:25:58Z] <kris_> school rarely digests for me
[2025-08-02T01:26:04Z] <midfavila> every time i look at modern CS classes, at least those available online, they're always like
[2025-08-02T01:26:08Z] <midfavila> super fucking disrespectful
[2025-08-02T01:26:12Z] <midfavila> towards students
[2025-08-02T01:26:13Z] <kris_> and no i think the first part of this program is going to be like
[2025-08-02T01:26:18Z] <kris_> java and calculus and such
[2025-08-02T01:26:25Z] <kris_> and then into assembly and C and a bunch of other shit later
[2025-08-02T01:26:28Z] <midfavila> and it really makes me want to just not do stuff
[2025-08-02T01:26:35Z] <kris_> ASSembly is going to be fun i'm sure
[2025-08-02T01:26:38Z] * kris_ is dead inside
[2025-08-02T01:27:19Z] <midfavila> prime example is that CS50x course or w/e at harvard
[2025-08-02T01:27:25Z] <kris_> the part of uni i dislike the most in general is all of the extra excess stuff i have to do that isn't in any way involved with what i'm there for
[2025-08-02T01:27:31Z] <midfavila> i'm not interested in scratch and python and webshit
[2025-08-02T01:27:40Z] <kris_> THOUGH their esports arena looks fucking sick
[2025-08-02T01:27:43Z] <kris_> and yeah i feel you
[2025-08-02T01:27:45Z] <midfavila> just teach me about systems programming and C and lisp and shit
[2025-08-02T01:27:50Z] <kris_> ours is more geared towards assembly and C
[2025-08-02T01:27:53Z] <midfavila> but no, that's not profitable
[2025-08-02T01:28:10Z] <kris_> there's going to be a bit of bullshit lang too i'm sure but we'll see
[2025-08-02T01:28:23Z] <midfavila> if i'm gonna be real with you for a sec i try not to think about schooling
[2025-08-02T01:28:34Z] <kris_> fair we can talk about something else
[2025-08-02T01:28:52Z] <midfavila> always ends up leaving me pissed off and depressed
[2025-08-02T01:28:54Z] <midfavila> :\
[2025-08-02T01:29:06Z] <kris_> yeah me too because i wasted 2 years of my life on a cybersecurity career studies certificate
[2025-08-02T01:29:13Z] <kris_> and it ate up some of my allowed federal aid
[2025-08-02T01:29:29Z] <midfavila> i just hate that i lost out on my apprenticeship because of covid
[2025-08-02T01:29:39Z] <midfavila> at that security research lab
[2025-08-02T01:29:48Z] <kris_> yeah i remember you talking about that, fuckin sucks
[2025-08-02T01:29:52Z] <midfavila> >literally homeless
[2025-08-02T01:29:54Z] <kris_> but don't let yourself think that's going to be the only opportunity you get
[2025-08-02T01:30:00Z] <midfavila> >CEO is like "hey yeah come work at my lab"
[2025-08-02T01:30:01Z] <kris_> something will hit eventually
[2025-08-02T01:30:08Z] <midfavila> >mfw this is literally like a movie
[2025-08-02T01:30:14Z] <midfavila> >everything is going well for the first time in my life ever
[2025-08-02T01:30:18Z] <midfavila> >COVID happens
[2025-08-02T01:30:23Z] <kris_> same thing happened to me a year ago or so
[2025-08-02T01:30:33Z] <kris_> my fathers companys IT guy had heard about me via my dad and wanted to bring me in to work at least part time
[2025-08-02T01:30:35Z] <midfavila> now i work at a fucking construction company and i can't even go back to school if i wanted
[2025-08-02T01:30:39Z] <kris_> and then my dad just like no longer works there, no clue what happened
[2025-08-02T01:31:10Z] <midfavila> also fwiw the whole copium about "just keep trying" is kind of the same approach people took towards climate change and now we're fucked
[2025-08-02T01:31:17Z] <midfavila> the question isn't "eventually"
[2025-08-02T01:31:21Z] <midfavila> it's "soon enough"
[2025-08-02T01:31:22Z] <kris_> im not saying just keep trying, i'm saying just keep existing
[2025-08-02T01:31:30Z] <kris_> i don't even think free will exists
[2025-08-02T01:31:39Z] <kris_> everything just happens randomly 
[2025-08-02T01:31:48Z] <midfavila> i mean, whether it does or not is irrelevant 
[2025-08-02T01:31:51Z] <kris_> given time though its not like you have zero chance
[2025-08-02T01:32:01Z] <midfavila> the bigger question is, who chooses the choices on offer
[2025-08-02T01:32:12Z] <kris_> the odds are stacked against you yeah
[2025-08-02T01:32:14Z] <midfavila> and the answer is "someone with more money and power than me"
[2025-08-02T01:32:32Z] <kris_> and maybe this is the american in me speaking but fuck that shit, fuck them up, fuck everything up and something has a chance of happening
[2025-08-02T01:32:58Z] <midfavila> tired of having to compete with nepo babies from upper class backgrounds who had unlimited money and time to put towards hobbies and school and meetings with connections through their parents and shit
[2025-08-02T01:33:49Z] <kris_> theoretically i could probably have a job if i moved back to my hometown via nepotism
[2025-08-02T01:34:02Z] <kris_> i just don't really want to involve myself with that area and those people
[2025-08-02T01:34:02Z] <midfavila> see the thing is that's not an option for me
[2025-08-02T01:34:07Z] <kris_> nah i know
[2025-08-02T01:34:13Z] <midfavila> even if i wanted to, i have literally zero options
[2025-08-02T01:34:46Z] <kris_> i have ideas constantly but just never follow through in terms of things i could actually do myself
[2025-08-02T01:35:00Z] <midfavila> i just wish that the material available for hobbyists online wasn't so goddamn demeaning, like i said
[2025-08-02T01:35:03Z] <midfavila> prime example is uhh
[2025-08-02T01:35:08Z] <midfavila> beej's sockets programming guide
[2025-08-02T01:35:14Z] <midfavila> i tried to read it and it's so fucking insulting
[2025-08-02T01:35:17Z] <kris_> like with game development for example, i keep getting incredibly hung up on the specific software stack id be using instead of just using something and making something
[2025-08-02T01:35:21Z] <kris_> same thing with music
[2025-08-02T01:35:29Z] <midfavila> the entire goddamn document is written like borderlands
[2025-08-02T01:35:35Z] <kris_> caring too much about what this shit runs on compared to what the thing is i'm making
[2025-08-02T01:35:49Z] <midfavila> just make an engine yourself then
[2025-08-02T01:35:51Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2025-08-02T01:35:55Z] <kris_> nah theres already a perfectly good one
[2025-08-02T01:35:57Z] <kris_> love2d
[2025-08-02T01:36:04Z] <midfavila> clearly there isn't if you care about such things
[2025-08-02T01:36:13Z] <kris_> well i'm not the only one involved with this
[2025-08-02T01:36:15Z] <kris_> he wants to use godot
[2025-08-02T01:36:18Z] <kris_> i kinda dont like godot
[2025-08-02T01:36:30Z] <kris_> love2d is just more or less a lua executer 
[2025-08-02T01:36:39Z] <kris_> you just actually write lua
[2025-08-02T01:36:47Z] <kris_> as if you just had a library to go with it
[2025-08-02T01:36:49Z] <midfavila> if i ever get into gamedev i'm probably just going to stick to 2d games and write my own engine
[2025-08-02T01:36:59Z] <midfavila> i'd like to write a clone of contra for example
[2025-08-02T01:37:14Z] <kris_> ive been wanting to make a psychological horror 2d game for a while, in the style of the OG rpgmaker horror games
[2025-08-02T01:37:19Z] <kris_> corpse party / ib / mad father / stuff like that
[2025-08-02T01:37:23Z] <kris_> the good stuff
[2025-08-02T01:37:52Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2025-08-02T01:38:00Z] <midfavila> rpg maker games weren't really part of my childhood
[2025-08-02T01:38:09Z] <kris_> i was a super edgy kid
[2025-08-02T01:38:17Z] <midfavila> i did play off though
[2025-08-02T01:38:19Z] <midfavila> off is cool
[2025-08-02T01:38:20Z] <kris_> edgy in the sense of being super into like horror shit like creepypastas
[2025-08-02T01:38:25Z] <kris_> i used to sit and write creepypastas constantly
[2025-08-02T01:38:28Z] <midfavila> probably the only time my rudimentary understanding of french has been useful
[2025-08-02T01:38:31Z] <kris_> this was just adjacent
[2025-08-02T01:38:34Z] <kris_> also never heard of off
[2025-08-02T01:38:42Z] <midfavila> you should play it
[2025-08-02T01:38:45Z] <midfavila> it's pretty short
[2025-08-02T01:38:56Z] <midfavila> i beat it 100% with the true ending in an afternoon, blind
[2025-08-02T01:39:08Z] <midfavila> but it has a killer soundtrack and a really unique aesthetic
[2025-08-02T01:40:03Z] <midfavila> https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=2nzrh69jZMg
[2025-08-02T01:40:42Z] <kris_> idk how i feel about this
[2025-08-02T01:40:49Z] <kris_> its unique for sure
[2025-08-02T01:41:45Z] <midfavila> apparently there was a remake???
[2025-08-02T01:41:50Z] <midfavila> first i've heard of this
[2025-08-02T01:42:00Z] <midfavila> https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=NAnZdMfEL3o
[2025-08-02T01:42:07Z] <midfavila> apparently toby fox is involved
[2025-08-02T01:42:10Z] <midfavila> makes sense
[2025-08-02T01:42:16Z] <kris_> oh shit new $uicideboy$ album
[2025-08-02T01:42:22Z] <kris_> i know you probably dont care but excited
[2025-08-02T01:42:35Z] <midfavila> i literally have no idea who that is
[2025-08-02T01:42:40Z] <kris_> you'd hate them
[2025-08-02T01:42:59Z] <kris_> midfavila: and yeah that does make sense
[2025-08-02T01:43:08Z] <midfavila> i will say that i'm a total sucker for wooby-woob jazzy songs in games
[2025-08-02T01:43:09Z] <kris_> i interpret you as an undertale fan
[2025-08-02T01:43:38Z] <kris_> also $b are just honestly like generic sad rappers
[2025-08-02T01:43:40Z] <midfavila> you aren't entirely wrong but i also kind of hate the fandom and the effect undertale has had on games development 
[2025-08-02T01:43:43Z] <kris_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7OfxtCt09A
[2025-08-02T01:44:03Z] <midfavila> i like undertale because i really pretty hard to some of the characters 
[2025-08-02T01:44:08Z] <midfavila> relate even
[2025-08-02T01:44:10Z] * midfavila facedesks
[2025-08-02T01:44:15Z] <midfavila> brain't
[2025-08-02T01:44:31Z] <kris_> never played it
[2025-08-02T01:44:36Z] <kris_> one of the kids ive been babysitting is SUPER into it
[2025-08-02T01:44:39Z] <kris_> as well as deltarune
[2025-08-02T01:44:42Z] <kris_> another game idk anything about
[2025-08-02T01:45:34Z] <midfavila> i kind of hate the undertale fandom because it's very shallow
[2025-08-02T01:45:37Z] <midfavila> like
[2025-08-02T01:45:40Z] <midfavila> here's the way i see it
[2025-08-02T01:46:00Z] <midfavila> if you can't write an essay on what a piece of media means to you on a personal level, you're being super shallow and annoying 
[2025-08-02T01:46:15Z] <kris_> eh
[2025-08-02T01:46:19Z] <kris_> maybe
[2025-08-02T01:46:20Z] <midfavila> it's fine to just "like things", but don't make it your fucking personality, especially if the best you can say is like
[2025-08-02T01:46:27Z] <midfavila> "some of the characters are cute!!!" 
[2025-08-02T01:46:39Z] <midfavila> maybe that's gatekeepy or whatever, but i don't really care
[2025-08-02T01:46:50Z] <kris_> there's also a new bones album
[2025-08-02T01:46:51Z] <kris_> aaaaaa
[2025-08-02T01:46:54Z] <midfavila> i'm super tired of how surface-level a lot of shit is 
[2025-08-02T01:46:57Z] <kris_> midfavila: no i get it trust me
[2025-08-02T01:47:21Z] <kris_> i could write probably 14 pages about a few pink floyd songs
[2025-08-02T01:47:27Z] <midfavila> it also just gives me very tumblr vibes
[2025-08-02T01:47:29Z] <midfavila> if that makes sense
[2025-08-02T01:47:32Z] <kris_> people often walk up to me and are like "oh you like pink floyd? name 3 songs"
[2025-08-02T01:47:35Z] <kris_> when i'm wearing a pf shirt
[2025-08-02T01:47:38Z] <kris_> it's kinda fun though
[2025-08-02T01:47:51Z] <midfavila> like the undertale/deltarune fandom is just the continuation of the homestuck fandom
[2025-08-02T01:47:56Z] <midfavila> which itself is just hetalia
[2025-08-02T01:48:00Z] <kris_> dude i used to LOVE tumblr
[2025-08-02T01:48:04Z] <midfavila> you would
[2025-08-02T01:48:05Z] * midfavila sniffs
[2025-08-02T01:48:06Z] <kris_> see: my comments about my edgy arc as a kid
[2025-08-02T01:48:11Z] <kris_> yes i infact would
[2025-08-02T01:48:21Z] <midfavila> i'm a newgrounds person
[2025-08-02T01:48:22Z] <midfavila> = w=
[2025-08-02T01:48:42Z] <kris_> i spent most of my time on MMOs tbh 
[2025-08-02T01:48:49Z] <kris_> i rarely actually interacted with places like newgrounds
[2025-08-02T01:49:07Z] <midfavila> i spent so much time on newgrounds and on other likek
[2025-08-02T01:49:10Z] <midfavila> like, flash places
[2025-08-02T01:49:17Z] <kris_> i did up until i was about 7
[2025-08-02T01:49:22Z] <kris_> at which point i was playing wizard101 24/7
[2025-08-02T01:49:25Z] <midfavila> specifically i spent around a decade on a site called whirled
[2025-08-02T01:49:28Z] <midfavila> which was lik
[2025-08-02T01:49:32Z] <midfavila> how do i describe this
[2025-08-02T01:49:33Z] <kris_> egh god some of the things i did on wizard101 make me cringe HARD now
[2025-08-02T01:49:39Z] <midfavila> so imagine like
[2025-08-02T01:49:42Z] <midfavila> second life
[2025-08-02T01:49:44Z] <midfavila> and newgrounds
[2025-08-02T01:49:54Z] <midfavila> and like
[2025-08-02T01:49:56Z] <midfavila> myspace
[2025-08-02T01:49:59Z] <midfavila> in a blender
[2025-08-02T01:50:03Z] <kris_> there was this flash game i was such a big fan of when <7 years old called ray
[2025-08-02T01:50:07Z] <kris_> it was kinda grand theft auto coded
[2025-08-02T01:51:07Z] <kris_> i miss the og wizard101 days
[2025-08-02T01:51:14Z] <kris_> or maybe not the og but the days right after
[2025-08-02T01:51:24Z] <kris_> og days were just shitty edgy text chat roleplaying as vampires and shit
[2025-08-02T01:51:29Z] <kris_> after that i got SUPER into pvp 
[2025-08-02T01:51:34Z] <kris_> rank grinding and all that
[2025-08-02T01:51:40Z] <midfavila> were you a twilight kid lmao
[2025-08-02T01:51:44Z] <kris_> 100%
[2025-08-02T01:51:47Z] <midfavila> :VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
[2025-08-02T01:51:55Z] <kris_> smoking that new moon 
[2025-08-02T01:51:59Z] <midfavila> actually dying rn
[2025-08-02T01:52:00Z] <midfavila> lmfao
[2025-08-02T01:52:10Z] <kris_> listen i was very little and my mom was SUPER into twilight
[2025-08-02T01:52:17Z] <kris_> so i went to the theaters with her to watch it and stuff
[2025-08-02T01:52:23Z] <kris_> actually she was good friends with robert pattenson on myspace lmfao
[2025-08-02T01:52:28Z] <midfavila> who
[2025-08-02T01:52:33Z] <kris_> pattinson*
[2025-08-02T01:52:36Z] <kris_> the guy who played edward in twilight
[2025-08-02T01:52:41Z] <midfavila> who
[2025-08-02T01:52:48Z] <kris_> have you actually not watched it
[2025-08-02T01:52:54Z] <midfavila> i don't consoom
[2025-08-02T01:53:02Z] <midfavila> i have watched maybe a handful of films in my entire life
[2025-08-02T01:53:10Z] <kris_> ive not seen that many either
[2025-08-02T01:53:14Z] <kris_> its hard for me to sit and watch a movie
[2025-08-02T01:53:26Z] <midfavila> i just find most films to be complete and utter slop
[2025-08-02T01:53:30Z] <midfavila> total shit
[2025-08-02T01:53:34Z] <midfavila> zero fucking value
[2025-08-02T01:53:38Z] <midfavila> it actually makes me furious
[2025-08-02T01:53:38Z] <kris_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%27s_Ladder_(1990_film)
[2025-08-02T01:53:40Z] <kris_> i recommend this
[2025-08-02T01:53:55Z] <midfavila> like i get so mad watching films or listening to most music or whatever that i just don't
[2025-08-02T01:54:08Z] <midfavila> they're everything i despise 
[2025-08-02T01:54:19Z] <kris_> jacobs ladder is very interesting
[2025-08-02T01:54:25Z] <kris_> one of my favorite movies for sure
[2025-08-02T01:54:36Z] <kris_> it's partially a political statement and partially psychological horror
[2025-08-02T01:54:42Z] <kris_> "horror"
[2025-08-02T01:55:05Z] <kris_> its like the type of horror someone who is super into psychedelics appreciates, more insightful compared to horror
[2025-08-02T01:55:18Z] <midfavila> the last film i watched was 28 years later with a fren irl
[2025-08-02T01:55:24Z] <kris_> DUDE IM SO EXCITED
[2025-08-02T01:55:27Z] <midfavila> it was honestly shockingly good
[2025-08-02T01:55:34Z] <kris_> i loved the first two movies
[2025-08-02T01:55:39Z] <midfavila> i expected a boring zombie action flick but it's actually really solid
[2025-08-02T01:55:47Z] <midfavila> more of a focus on characters
[2025-08-02T01:55:51Z] <midfavila> the pacing is excellent as well
[2025-08-02T01:55:57Z] <kris_> 28 weeks later was like that too
[2025-08-02T01:56:01Z] <midfavila> my only criticisms are that sometimes the space *between* scenes are paced poorly
[2025-08-02T01:56:01Z] <kris_> 28 days later was kind of boring zombie movie
[2025-08-02T01:56:04Z] <midfavila> likke
[2025-08-02T01:56:08Z] <midfavila> the scenes *themelves* are really good
[2025-08-02T01:56:13Z] <midfavila> but then sometimes they rush to the next one
[2025-08-02T01:56:28Z] <midfavila> the ending is also emotionally whiplashy in my opinion
[2025-08-02T01:56:33Z] <kris_> i'm also excited for the king of the hill reobot
[2025-08-02T01:56:35Z] <kris_> reboot
[2025-08-02T01:56:35Z] <midfavila> otherwise, very good movie
[2025-08-02T01:56:38Z] <kris_> was a major part of my childhood
[2025-08-02T01:56:48Z] <midfavila> have you seen they live
[2025-08-02T01:56:55Z] <kris_> nop
[2025-08-02T01:57:00Z] <kris_> i think a friend mentioned that to me a bit ago though
[2025-08-02T01:57:02Z] <midfavila> you should watch it
[2025-08-02T01:57:18Z] <kris_> no promises i still have a bunch of stuff in my list to get through
[2025-08-02T01:57:24Z] <kris_> i just watched season 1 of smiling friends
[2025-08-02T01:57:28Z] <midfavila> what
[2025-08-02T01:57:31Z] <kris_> idk if im gonna watch season 2
[2025-08-02T01:57:46Z] <kris_> idk how to explain what smiling friends is
[2025-08-02T01:57:53Z] <kris_> ive never seen a more chaotic show in my life
[2025-08-02T01:58:00Z] <kris_> it's like sensory overload constantly
[2025-08-02T01:58:11Z] <midfavila> does it have an actual point and some degree of structure or is it just bullsit
[2025-08-02T01:58:14Z] <midfavila> bullshit even
[2025-08-02T01:58:26Z] <kris_> the main characters work for a company called smiling friends
[2025-08-02T01:58:32Z] <kris_> and their job is to literally just make unhappy people happy
[2025-08-02T01:58:36Z] <kris_> help them with life problems or whatever
[2025-08-02T01:58:47Z] <kris_> but its mostly just bullshit
[2025-08-02T01:59:00Z] <midfavila> write-off then
[2025-08-02T01:59:09Z] <kris_> rick and morty was good
[2025-08-02T01:59:12Z] <kris_> theres a new season for that i havent seen
[2025-08-02T01:59:15Z] <midfavila> i will bully you
[2025-08-02T01:59:18Z] <midfavila> oh my god holy shit
[2025-08-02T01:59:21Z] * midfavila foams at the mouth
[2025-08-02T01:59:29Z] <kris_> quit it
[2025-08-02T01:59:33Z] <kris_> :C
[2025-08-02T01:59:36Z] <midfavila> you have no idea how much my blood pressure just spiked >:c
[2025-08-02T01:59:44Z] <midfavila> i will not tolerate your pickle ricks and evil mortys
[2025-08-02T01:59:53Z] <kris_> people who lose their shit over rick and morty are just as bad as the rick and morty fans who are at mcdonalds screaming about sechuan sauce
[2025-08-02T02:00:06Z] <midfavila> you're entitled to that opinion
[2025-08-02T02:00:07Z] <kris_> i just find the show funny
[2025-08-02T02:00:38Z] <kris_> ok but come on pickle rick was fucking hilarious
[2025-08-02T02:00:42Z] <midfavila> no
[2025-08-02T02:00:44Z] <midfavila> it really wasn't
[2025-08-02T02:01:05Z] <midfavila> rick and morty is just edgy big bang theory
[2025-08-02T02:01:12Z] <midfavila> sorry not sorry
[2025-08-02T02:01:15Z] <kris_> but he's a pickle
[2025-08-02T02:01:33Z] <kris_> no i literally couldnt stand big bang theory
[2025-08-02T02:01:40Z] <midfavila> BAZOINKERS
[2025-08-02T02:01:45Z] <kris_> my family is super into that show but its hard to watch it without cringing fucking haaard
[2025-08-02T02:02:35Z] <midfavila> idk maybe i just have a stick up my arse
[2025-08-02T02:02:50Z] <kris_> a little bit for sure
[2025-08-02T02:02:52Z] <kris_> but that's okay
[2025-08-02T02:03:05Z] <kris_> fuck its 9pm somehow
[2025-08-02T02:03:13Z] <kris_> i thought it was earlier, idk where the past 5 hours went
[2025-08-02T02:03:15Z] <kris_> legit no clue
[2025-08-02T02:03:48Z] <kris_> anyway assuming i don't watch the next season of smiling friends, lain is next
[2025-08-02T02:03:52Z] <kris_> it's already on my server i just gotta watch it
[2025-08-02T02:04:25Z] <midfavila> lain is good
[2025-08-02T02:04:32Z] <midfavila> it's sufficiently snooty and pretentious for me
[2025-08-02T02:04:38Z] <midfavila> also, computers
[2025-08-02T02:04:56Z] <kris_> the last computer related thing i watched was mr.robot
[2025-08-02T02:05:02Z] * midfavila cringes 
[2025-08-02T02:05:09Z] <kris_> its not really about the computers though
[2025-08-02T02:05:10Z] <midfavila> the first season was good
[2025-08-02T02:05:17Z] <kris_> yeah idk
[2025-08-02T02:05:20Z] <midfavila> everything afterward was just
[2025-08-02T02:05:20Z] <midfavila> ugh
[2025-08-02T02:05:23Z] <kris_> by the end of it i was just bored
[2025-08-02T02:05:23Z] <midfavila> especially uhh
[2025-08-02T02:05:38Z] <midfavila> i think it was season three where everyone just started crying all the time and not doing anything
[2025-08-02T02:05:41Z] <kris_> that show didn't make me feel anything at all after the first season
[2025-08-02T02:05:51Z] <kris_> i finished it just to finish it
[2025-08-02T02:05:54Z] <midfavila> same
[2025-08-02T02:05:58Z] <midfavila> the ending was stupid
[2025-08-02T02:06:09Z] <kris_> rn im finishing supernatural though
[2025-08-02T02:06:13Z] <midfavila> honestly now that i'm a little more mature, looking back at it, it's kind of sinophobic and shitty
[2025-08-02T02:06:17Z] <kris_> ive seen season 1 - 14 like a bunch of times
[2025-08-02T02:06:19Z] <kris_> havent seen the final season though
[2025-08-02T02:07:35Z] <midfavila> what's that
[2025-08-02T02:08:15Z] <kris_> follows two brothers, sam and dean
[2025-08-02T02:08:23Z] <kris_> tldr their mother was murdered by a demon and they fight monsters and shit
[2025-08-02T02:08:35Z] <kris_> ghosts, ghouls, etc
[2025-08-02T02:08:46Z] <kris_> its very like angsty teenager type but it's amazing
[2025-08-02T02:08:56Z] <kris_> very much like 2014 tumblr coded
[2025-08-02T02:09:55Z] <kris_> tonight though i think i eat and play some more silent hill 2 remake
[2025-08-02T02:10:05Z] <kris_> so far silent hill 2 does not hold up to how much people praise it but im only like an hour in
[2025-08-02T02:17:39Z] <midfavila> okay so i've run into my first issue with the tangara
[2025-08-02T02:17:44Z] <midfavila> i really hate the scroll wheel
[2025-08-02T02:17:47Z] <midfavila> it's not for me
[2025-08-02T02:18:02Z] <midfavila> and the buttons-only input method is far too tedious 
[2025-08-02T02:18:34Z] <midfavila> it also seems like my unit might have a defective wheel
[2025-08-02T02:19:14Z] <midfavila> or like it needs calibrating or something
[2025-08-02T02:20:57Z] <kris_> not a clue
[2025-08-02T02:21:08Z] <midfavila> honestly i hate capacitive interfaces in general
[2025-08-02T02:21:16Z] <midfavila> they have a few usecases where they're sort of kind of reasonable
[2025-08-02T02:21:24Z] <midfavila> like simple kiosks i guess
[2025-08-02T02:21:26Z] <midfavila> that's *it*
[2025-08-02T02:21:43Z] <midfavila> they're *WAY* too fragile and complicated otherwise
[2025-08-02T02:24:46Z] <midfavila> found the problem
[2025-08-02T02:25:04Z] <midfavila> there's something going on with my tangara's charging circuitry that's interfering with the touchpad
[2025-08-02T02:25:15Z] <midfavila> every time i plug in a usb cable the input goes wild
[2025-08-02T02:26:31Z] <midfavila> buttons only it is
[2025-08-02T02:26:49Z] <midfavila> i don't understand what's so hard about a dpad and a couple buttons 
[2025-08-02T02:30:04Z] <midfavila> oh well, worst comes to pass i can modify it
[2025-08-02T02:30:06Z] <midfavila> yay open hardware
[2025-08-02T02:30:59Z] <kris_> maybe it just needs some electrical tape man
[2025-08-02T02:32:06Z] <midfavila> mayhaps
[2025-08-02T02:32:09Z] <midfavila> i'll open it up in a bit
[2025-08-02T02:32:21Z] <midfavila> i'm mostly just bellyaching
[2025-08-02T02:32:26Z] <midfavila> i'm still super pleased with it
[2025-08-02T02:32:32Z] <midfavila> great little device esp for a first iteration
[2025-08-02T02:33:00Z] <kris_> talk to them
[2025-08-02T02:33:04Z] <kris_> they seem like they'd be receptive to that information
[2025-08-02T02:33:28Z] <midfavila> yeah if i can nail it down for sure i'll be mailing them and letting them know
[2025-08-02T02:33:40Z] <midfavila> i'd like to see it succeed
[2025-08-02T02:33:53Z] <midfavila> there's been a lot of great stuff in open hardware over the past five or so years
[2025-08-02T02:34:15Z] <kris_> yeah im kinda surprised how much shit we're getting
[2025-08-02T02:35:55Z] <kris_> i do think my next phone will be a fairphone but im curious to see what they're going to have to do in terms of the bootloader since the EU is fucking things up
[2025-08-02T10:08:53Z] <phoebos> midfavila: what did you want put in the topic
[2025-08-02T10:09:14Z] <phoebos> "unexpected item in the bagging area"? lol
[2025-08-02T14:11:16Z] <midfavila> phoebos: weewooweewooweewoo
[2025-08-02T14:11:19Z] <midfavila> :3
[2025-08-02T21:19:08Z] <phoebos> whut