[2025-08-26T19:29:00Z] <midfavila> https://www.youtube.com/live/vz6ob9lbA6c
[2025-08-26T19:29:05Z] <midfavila> check this out
[2025-08-26T19:29:10Z] <midfavila> modos display demo
[2025-08-26T19:30:30Z] <midfavila> https://youtu.be/jQZBED66y0o?t=823
[2025-08-26T19:30:36Z] <midfavila> section with a simple 3D game 
[2025-08-26T19:34:54Z] <evahasarrived> you can put them in a thinkpad...?
[2025-08-26T19:35:08Z] <evahasarrived> midfavila i'll go halves on one w/ you
[2025-08-26T19:35:52Z] <midfavila> i'm going to hack one into my reform come hell or high water
[2025-08-26T19:36:01Z] <midfavila> i'm getting myself a 1600x1200 at some point
[2025-08-26T19:36:13Z] <midfavila> it's on The List:tm:
[2025-08-26T19:36:18Z] <evahasarrived> sooo fkn cool
[2025-08-26T19:36:46Z] <midfavila> at some point i want to redo the switches on the keyboard too
[2025-08-26T19:37:08Z] <midfavila> switch from kalih choc browns to kalih light blues which are their highest-weight clicky switches
[2025-08-26T19:37:51Z] <midfavila> going to need to get a new chassis milled or printed to account for the different dimensions, so at that point i'll probably switch out the internals from the v-1 to the v-2 
[2025-08-26T19:38:06Z] <midfavila> where they break the motherboard up into a bunch of discrete boards 
[2025-08-26T19:38:15Z] <midfavila> whatever
[2025-08-26T19:38:35Z] <midfavila> i've accepted i'll never afford a house so i'm just going to make the coolest laptop ever
[2025-08-26T19:38:38Z] <midfavila> settle for that
[2025-08-26T19:38:46Z] <midfavila> = w=
[2025-08-26T19:39:04Z] <midfavila> e-ink is so unreasonably cool
[2025-08-26T19:40:19Z] <evahasarrived50> ? web chat so so bad
[2025-08-26T19:40:27Z] <evahasarrived50> i've only used e-ink on tablets tbh
[2025-08-26T19:41:40Z] <evahasarrived50> my world has been changed knowing now that i can put them in an old thinkpad
[2025-08-26T19:42:04Z] <midfavila> i've also only used it on tablets, unfortunately, but i've been on a kick the past few years of trying to make my relationship with technology more intentional, at risk of sounding granolacore
[2025-08-26T19:42:47Z] <midfavila> while there's a place for LCDs, most of the time i'm just working with text, so i don't need the extra colours or whatever, and would much rather a less strenuous display
[2025-08-26T19:43:10Z] <midfavila> my next phone will likely be e-ink, if i get another, as well
[2025-08-26T19:43:18Z] <evahasarrived50> you'd probably like this if you haven't seen it
[2025-08-26T19:43:18Z] <evahasarrived50> https://williamjansson.com/
[2025-08-26T19:43:34Z] <midfavila> https://minimalcompany.com/
[2025-08-26T19:43:42Z] <midfavila> this is a very granola-y website but it's also basically my ideal phone
[2025-08-26T19:44:28Z] <evahasarrived50> what's the minimal phone everybody uses
[2025-08-26T19:44:35Z] <evahasarrived50> it's literally a block
[2025-08-26T19:44:36Z] <midfavila> probably the lightphone 
[2025-08-26T19:44:50Z] <midfavila> but the lightphone is literally just an accessory to your regular phone which you also need to have on you
[2025-08-26T19:44:51Z] <evahasarrived50> light phone !
[2025-08-26T19:44:54Z] <midfavila> it's the stupidest shit
[2025-08-26T19:45:04Z] <midfavila> like
[2025-08-26T19:45:08Z] <midfavila> if it was a standalone phone
[2025-08-26T19:45:11Z] <midfavila> i would kind of like it
[2025-08-26T19:45:14Z] <midfavila> but it's not iirc
[2025-08-26T19:45:25Z] <evahasarrived50> it's pretty
[2025-08-26T19:45:29Z] <midfavila> https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-pure/
[2025-08-26T19:45:33Z] <midfavila> i also really like this, in theory
[2025-08-26T19:46:08Z] <evahasarrived> why not just. dumbphone at that point
[2025-08-26T19:46:08Z] <midfavila> evahasarrived: why don't you try a native client?
[2025-08-26T19:46:19Z] <evahasarrived> i'm on my uni laptop
[2025-08-26T19:46:21Z] <midfavila> also, the mudita pure effectively is a dumb phone
[2025-08-26T19:46:22Z] <midfavila> aah
[2025-08-26T19:46:54Z] <midfavila> but yeah when i first saw it, while i don't give a damn about muh SAR values, i do like the T9 and e-ink display, and the open-source OS
[2025-08-26T19:47:15Z] <midfavila> what i don't like is that the second they faced some negative feedback from customers they dropped the design entirely and just made a shitty android touchscreen phone 
[2025-08-26T19:47:28Z] <midfavila> that kind of attitude basically guarantees i'll never touch your products
[2025-08-26T19:47:36Z] <evahasarrived> oh oh i see
[2025-08-26T19:47:55Z] <midfavila> there's also the "punkt" but i didn't really like that one either for reasons i don't recall
[2025-08-26T19:48:42Z] <midfavila> also
[2025-08-26T19:49:04Z] <midfavila> one thing i see a lot in these spaces is people expecting >random company to have the same standards as samsung
[2025-08-26T19:49:07Z] <midfavila> like
[2025-08-26T19:49:13Z] <midfavila> you are buying a niche product from a small firm with few resources
[2025-08-26T19:49:28Z] <midfavila> you are just going to have to accept that that means there will be a worse value ratio as a result
[2025-08-26T19:49:32Z] <midfavila> it's not a mass produced good
[2025-08-26T19:49:51Z] <midfavila> you will pay more, and you will get lower quality than a comparable "mainstream" phone
[2025-08-26T19:49:57Z] <midfavila> that's just how the market works
[2025-08-26T19:50:11Z] <midfavila> it's stupid and it shouldn't exist but insofar as it does, cope and seethe about it
[2025-08-26T19:50:17Z] <midfavila> if you can't accept that, fuck off
[2025-08-26T19:50:29Z] <midfavila> same thing with the uconsole
[2025-08-26T19:50:54Z] <midfavila> everyone who had a devterm or prior experience with wonky OSHWA mfgers knew what to expect going in and that there might be delays and stuff
[2025-08-26T19:51:37Z] <midfavila> meanwhile the fucking morons on r/csfirstyear saw it, went "OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD SO CYBERPUNK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA", flooded the site, overwhelmed the company's production capabilities, and then whined and moaned about how they had to wait to get their niche little handheld
[2025-08-26T19:52:08Z] <midfavila> like i understand that you're used to instant gratification and you can't wait more than half a second to get what you want but sometimes you need to wait to harvest your crops 
[2025-08-26T19:52:15Z] * midfavila breathes heavily
[2025-08-26T19:52:17Z] <midfavila> okay i'm done
[2025-08-26T19:52:48Z] <midfavila> actually the above applies to kisslinux too 
[2025-08-26T19:53:31Z] <midfavila> people seeing a post on reddit about this kewl niche distro awooaooaoaooaoaoaoaoa and then demanding that everyone prepackage all the same shit they were just going to run on debian in the first place, completely missing the point of the distro :|
[2025-08-26T19:59:30Z] <evahasarrived> but why won't you package the fifty different fetches that are all just shell scripts anyway?
[2025-08-26T19:59:38Z] <midfavila> :gun:
[2025-08-26T20:00:09Z] <evahasarrived> made toast
[2025-08-26T20:00:15Z] <evahasarrived> missed you so much
[2025-08-26T20:00:25Z] <evahasarrived> midfavila u could actually like
[2025-08-26T20:00:27Z] <evahasarrived> help me
[2025-08-26T20:00:50Z] <evahasarrived> i was literally scrolling reddit for dumb phones the other day
[2025-08-26T20:00:52Z] <evahasarrived> not proud
[2025-08-26T20:01:01Z] <evahasarrived> but you know phones! tell me tell me
[2025-08-26T20:01:36Z] <midfavila> i don't know phones lol
[2025-08-26T20:01:52Z] <midfavila> i used a blackberry for like twelve years and the only reason i replaced it is because it's stopped making phone calls
[2025-08-26T20:02:10Z] <midfavila> rn i have some bottom of the barrel budget model that a local pawn shop imported from india 
[2025-08-26T20:02:21Z] <evahasarrived> that's where i'm trying to get!
[2025-08-26T20:02:24Z] <midfavila> samsung a055f
[2025-08-26T20:02:40Z] <evahasarrived> i need to call my uni and have my bf as my emergancy contact
[2025-08-26T20:02:44Z] <evahasarrived> *emergency, whatevs
[2025-08-26T20:02:57Z] <evahasarrived> i was thinking about buying whatever but that's no fun
[2025-08-26T20:03:06Z] <midfavila> idk just get a cheap flip phone
[2025-08-26T20:03:22Z] <midfavila> it depends on what you want and how fussy you are about things
[2025-08-26T20:03:47Z] <evahasarrived> not v.
[2025-08-26T20:03:53Z] <midfavila> i'm an extremely fussy person so i'll spend ages looking for just the right thing in a given category but without knowing your particular tics i can't offer suggestions
[2025-08-26T20:04:04Z] <evahasarrived> all i found is there's some fkn weird software you can flash
[2025-08-26T20:04:20Z] <evahasarrived> they have like a whole libreboot-fork-thing going on
[2025-08-26T20:04:23Z] <evahasarrived> bizarre and hilarious to me
[2025-08-26T20:04:37Z] <midfavila> dunno anything about that
[2025-08-26T20:05:00Z] <midfavila> is that wrt: the pinephone or something to do with lineage? usually i use the twrp bootloader on my android phones but i don't know if that's still relevant...
[2025-08-26T20:05:26Z] <midfavila> i haven't done phone modding in a significant capacity for like a decade
[2025-08-26T20:05:58Z] <evahasarrived> sorta
[2025-08-26T20:06:06Z] <evahasarrived> they're just porting whatever to whatever they can
[2025-08-26T20:06:10Z] <evahasarrived> i don't know
[2025-08-26T20:06:11Z] <evahasarrived> strange !
[2025-08-26T20:06:39Z] <midfavila> yeah that's why idek if i'll get another android device
[2025-08-26T20:06:42Z] <midfavila> i'm tired
[2025-08-26T20:06:51Z] <midfavila> i don't want apps or whatever, i just want >a phone
[2025-08-26T20:06:59Z] <midfavila> that fits my particular desires
[2025-08-26T21:53:56Z] <midfavila> think i've narrowed it down to the minimal phone or the lightphone iii
[2025-08-26T21:54:14Z] <midfavila> the punkt is very nice from an aesthetic standpoint and i appreciate that its featureset is >phone
[2025-08-26T21:54:46Z] <midfavila> but apparently it's incompatible with canadian VoLTE and thus its featureset is, in fact, >paperweight
[2025-08-26T21:55:07Z] <midfavila> also i've read that it doesn't use standard USB for charging which is weird and offputting for a phone that's supposed to last ages
[2025-08-26T21:56:03Z] <midfavila> the lightphone iii seems very nice - i like the squat, thick, broad body, the metal frame, and that they've at least chosen to use an oled instead of epaper - but it's much more expensive than the competition and apparently it doesn't work with most Canadian carriers
[2025-08-26T21:56:04Z] <evahasarrived> p cool for a paperweight though
[2025-08-26T21:56:16Z] <midfavila> yes, it's a very cool paperweight, but i can get paperweights for free off the ground
[2025-08-26T21:56:19Z] <midfavila> :P
[2025-08-26T21:56:28Z] <evahasarrived> not e-ink ones
[2025-08-26T21:56:29Z] <evahasarrived> :/
[2025-08-26T21:56:48Z] <midfavila> they're oled which considering i wouldn't be doing much with these on account of being feature phones that's fine
[2025-08-26T21:57:14Z] <midfavila> not much risk of eyestrain in the first place and less risk than even that considering the whole >designed to not be used
[2025-08-26T21:57:17Z] <midfavila> thing
[2025-08-26T21:57:54Z] <evahasarrived> oh my gosh i've just seen the landline they offer
[2025-08-26T21:58:04Z] <evahasarrived> need that and i don't even have my own place
[2025-08-26T21:58:15Z] <evahasarrived> https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/dp01-cordless-phone/
[2025-08-26T21:58:38Z] <evahasarrived> v. v. sexy even if i have literally no use for it
[2025-08-26T22:20:36Z] <midfavila> unfortunately the cordless is out of production
[2025-08-26T22:44:09Z] <midfavila> think i'm going to double check with punkt that the mp02 doesn't work via VoLTE in canada and if it does i might go with them, otherwise i might go with a lightphone and cope with having to switch to telus
[2025-08-26T23:04:48Z] <kris_> a