[2025-08-27T04:44:49Z] <midfavila> thinking of something potentially a little crazy
[2025-08-27T04:44:54Z] <midfavila> what if i like
[2025-08-27T04:45:25Z] <midfavila> modified a set of bike brakes to use rods and bell cranks instead of cables
[2025-08-27T04:45:30Z] <midfavila> that was common on older bicycles
[2025-08-27T04:46:05Z] <midfavila> they're basically maintenance free with the exception of replacing pads and adjusting the orientation of the brakes, but that's only an issue with rim brakes, which suck anyway
[2025-08-27T04:47:24Z] <midfavila> if you were to use rods to actuate a drum then you could avoid the performance degradation of rims in inclement conditions and reduce maintenance even further since drums are sealed and degrade more slowly and don't need alignment much at all
[2025-08-27T04:47:53Z] <midfavila> of course, in such an assembly, the rods would need alignment instead, but that would only be an issue if your wheel was so messed up you couldn't ride it anyway
[2025-08-27T07:16:02Z] <dery> did you hear the news
[2025-08-27T07:16:20Z] <dery> G**gle is planning to make android sideloading pain
[2025-08-27T07:16:31Z] <dery> fml
[2025-08-27T15:33:45Z] <sewn> well
[2025-08-27T15:33:47Z] <sewn> thats bare android
[2025-08-27T15:33:49Z] <sewn> ill be sticking to lineage
[2025-08-27T15:37:58Z] <midfavila> how do smartphones find a new way to be dogshit every day 
[2025-08-27T15:38:33Z] <sewn> oh no midfavila
[2025-08-27T15:38:38Z] <sewn> there are good smartphones (you linked them)
[2025-08-27T15:38:40Z] <sewn> just its more like
[2025-08-27T15:38:47Z] <sewn> yeah nvm ur right
[2025-08-27T15:39:30Z] <sewn> sad
[2025-08-27T15:39:32Z] <sewn> where is sad_plan
[2025-08-27T15:39:33Z] <sewn> sad
[2025-08-27T15:39:36Z] <sewn> sad_plan: nooooooooo
[2025-08-27T15:54:02Z] <dery> actually sewn that is not bare android
[2025-08-27T15:54:09Z] <dery> that's android with gms
[2025-08-27T16:11:20Z] <sewn> i siad lineage
[2025-08-27T16:11:24Z] <sewn> lineage doesnt come with gms
[2025-08-27T16:55:15Z] <dery> what did you mean by "well thats bare android"
[2025-08-27T16:58:53Z] <sewn> AOSP?
[2025-08-27T18:40:28Z] <sad_plan> sewn: the server got rebooted again I assume. rather annoying if you ask me tbqh.....
[2025-08-27T18:42:32Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: maybe you like this: https://www.tindie.com/products/zitaotech/hackberrypi-cyberdeck-handheld-with-q20-keyboard/
[2025-08-27T18:42:54Z] <sad_plan> thers couple other types of keyboards aswell, if you dont like the q20. theres q10 instead, aswekk as couple others
[2025-08-27T18:43:14Z] <sad_plan> i recall you using a blackberry earlier, and this is usiing a blackberry keyboard
[2025-08-27T18:43:40Z] <sad_plan> theres one with pi5 aswell as pi4 too
[2025-08-27T18:44:42Z] <midfavila> i don't care for raspberry pis
[2025-08-27T18:44:52Z] <midfavila> also i can't take anything that calls itself a "cyberdeck" seriously
[2025-08-27T18:45:01Z] <midfavila> i do appreciate the design however
[2025-08-27T18:45:16Z] <midfavila> blackberries are nice and the use of nokia cellphone batteries is clever
[2025-08-27T18:45:24Z] <midfavila> the screen is excellently sized as well
[2025-08-27T18:45:42Z] <sad_plan> it was more that it was using a blackberry keyboard that made me link those. and I thought maybe youd appreciate the design, if anything :p
[2025-08-27T18:45:53Z] <sad_plan> how come you cant take anyone seriously if they call it a cyberdeck?
[2025-08-27T18:46:15Z] <midfavila> any time someone uses the term "cyberdeck" it just makes me cringe
[2025-08-27T18:46:32Z] <midfavila> it's very... reddit. usually it implies random shit thrown together just for aesthetics
[2025-08-27T18:46:43Z] <midfavila> sometimes there are interesting designs, like this one, but often they're just stupid
[2025-08-27T18:47:15Z] <midfavila> maybe i'm poo-pooing people who are just having fun but i'm not interested in your raspberry pi 5 glued into a pelican case
[2025-08-27T18:47:20Z] <midfavila> or whatever
[2025-08-27T18:47:42Z] <sad_plan> under r/cyberdeck, they just use it for w/e portable computer you got. be it a phone with a clamshell keyboard attach, or something like the hackerberrypi which I linked, or something completely custom. but I get it
[2025-08-27T18:48:13Z] <midfavila> maybe the way the term is used has changed then
[2025-08-27T18:48:38Z] <sad_plan> perhaps. its atleast how they chose to use it on r/cyberdeck anyhow
[2025-08-27T18:49:38Z] <sad_plan> ive been peeking over there for a couple weeks now, so see what kind of stupid shit people put together, and like you said, most of it is garbage, and any usecase you could think of is better used on either a phone, laptop, or desktop.
[2025-08-27T18:49:46Z] <sad_plan> but I suppose its only meant to look cool
[2025-08-27T18:49:49Z] <sad_plan> not be practical 
[2025-08-27T18:49:59Z] <sad_plan> atleast not as a neccessety
[2025-08-27T18:51:04Z] <midfavila> like i said, maybe i'm just poo-pooing on people's hobbies
[2025-08-27T18:51:09Z] <midfavila> i just think it's wasteful
[2025-08-27T18:51:25Z] <midfavila> it's the same thing with people who just
[2025-08-27T18:51:28Z] <midfavila> >build keyboards
[2025-08-27T18:51:36Z] <midfavila> sorry not sorry if anyone here builds keyboards
[2025-08-27T18:51:41Z] <midfavila> you should have like
[2025-08-27T18:51:55Z] <midfavila> one, two, *maybe* three depending on usecase. beyond that it's just vanity
[2025-08-27T18:52:18Z] <midfavila> one for the office, one for the desktop, and one for the laptop or whatever. easy. done.
[2025-08-27T18:54:52Z] <sad_plan> I get that. I would like to build a keyboard, but not looking for some custom 3d printed stuff. I would be using a kit, which would happen to have a diy option or something. just for the fun of it really. dont really care too much for these custom keyboard with atrocious designs anyway. some of them are cool to look at though
[2025-08-27T18:55:19Z] <midfavila> yeah some are novel, if you're doing it for artistic purposes i would understand that
[2025-08-27T18:55:32Z] <midfavila> there's also nothing wrong with making a custom keyboard or three
[2025-08-27T18:55:42Z] <midfavila> or spending a lot of money in general on one, so long as it's quality
[2025-08-27T18:56:12Z] <midfavila> my problem is people who just buy what essentially amounts to the same kit, with maybe differently-coloured keycaps, and then build fifty of them just to sit them on the wall like funko pops
[2025-08-27T18:56:18Z] <midfavila> it's mindless consumerism
[2025-08-27T18:57:02Z] <midfavila> that's really the core of it. buying shit just to buy shit.
[2025-08-27T18:57:36Z] <sad_plan> I agree
[2025-08-27T18:57:36Z] <midfavila> doesn't matter if it's keyboards or fifty thousand tools or bigass trucks or enormous mcmansions or designer brands or funko pops or whatever
[2025-08-27T18:57:49Z] <sad_plan> yeah
[2025-08-27T18:58:27Z] <midfavila> like, people sit there and go "well uhm ackchooully mid there's no ethical consumption under capitalism and also judging people is wrong", but, first of all, that doesn't mean all production is equally unethical, and second of all, judging people whose behaviours enable the killing of the planet and people is absolutely fine
[2025-08-27T18:59:06Z] <midfavila> if you buy burgers and milkshakes every day when there's a viable alternative that's reasonable to access, i'm going to be unimpressed
[2025-08-27T18:59:27Z] <midfavila> of course, you need to carefully examine the situation first, but like, shit isn't as complex as people make it out to be
[2025-08-27T19:00:30Z] <midfavila> don't eat piles of meat with every meal, buy from local farmers who treat their animals with respect when possible if within your means, buy clothes made of decent-quality fabrics that have warranties and can be mended easily, don't buy a new phone every year, and don't buy 100k trucks if you're not literally a farmer
[2025-08-27T19:00:43Z] <midfavila> and don't buy twenty identical keyboard kits and a hundred funko pops
[2025-08-27T19:00:45Z] <midfavila> it's that simple
[2025-08-27T19:01:07Z] <midfavila> fuckin hell
[2025-08-27T19:02:22Z] <midfavila> hey remember when this channel was about linux
[2025-08-27T19:02:26Z] <midfavila> that was a long time ago 
[2025-08-27T19:06:52Z] <sad_plan> i dont care as long as atleast theres some activity here really
[2025-08-27T19:07:21Z] <midfavila> fair
[2025-08-27T19:09:15Z] <midfavila> speaking of keyboards and consumerism
[2025-08-27T19:09:25Z] <midfavila> holy shit i can't wait for my beamspring keyboard to arrive aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[2025-08-27T19:09:36Z] <midfavila> the one nice keyboard i intend to ever buy 
[2025-08-27T19:10:01Z] <midfavila> got one of those repro models 
[2025-08-27T19:10:03Z] <midfavila> 122-variant
[2025-08-27T19:10:35Z] <midfavila> i'm pretty excited about the fact that the modules use mx mounting stems too 
[2025-08-27T19:13:39Z] <sad_plan> chunky keyboard
[2025-08-27T19:14:14Z] <midfavila> ye but it's a similar mechanism to the old selectric typewriters
[2025-08-27T19:14:15Z] <midfavila> <3
[2025-08-27T19:14:37Z] <midfavila> i'm hoping that once this guy stops doing his production runs he'll release schematics 
[2025-08-27T19:15:58Z] <sad_plan> dope. 
[2025-08-27T19:16:38Z] <sad_plan> im looking to get a 40% ortho keyboard. but my ducky still works just fine, so im kinda torn about getting a new one really
[2025-08-27T19:17:21Z] <midfavila> idk if you have an actual use for it there's nothing wrong with it
[2025-08-27T19:17:49Z] <sad_plan> works just fine. hence me being reluctant to get a new one :p
[2025-08-27T19:18:57Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2025-08-27T19:19:12Z] <midfavila> i will give you my blessing to buy a small keyboard for portable use
[2025-08-27T19:20:29Z] <sad_plan> so something like this then; https://mechboards.co.uk/products/pockettype
[2025-08-27T19:20:34Z] <sad_plan> litereally fits in your pocket
[2025-08-27T19:21:01Z] <sad_plan> also big enough that it might be comfy to type on
[2025-08-27T19:21:50Z] <midfavila> why not? that would be great for a tablet or something
[2025-08-27T19:22:06Z] <sad_plan> I suppose so
[2025-08-27T19:22:22Z] <midfavila> especially if you made a small chassis for it with a way to fix it in place so you can have a sort of laptop-style arrangement 
[2025-08-27T19:22:27Z] <midfavila> not too expensive either
[2025-08-27T19:22:44Z] <sad_plan> exacly
[2025-08-27T19:23:59Z] <sad_plan> its also 4x12, which is the size I want actually. Ive seen those thats 4x10, or even 3x10, but it just gets stupid small, reducing its usefullness 
[2025-08-27T19:25:43Z] <midfavila> ye
[2025-08-27T20:09:47Z] <dery> wait did this channel ever talk about linux for more than 5 minutes at a time
[2025-08-27T20:10:58Z] <dery> I've been here for... shit... 4 years? And don't remember that :P
[2025-08-27T20:39:23Z] <sad_plan> wait what? have you been silent for 4 years? ive only seen you recently really
[2025-08-27T20:39:40Z] <sad_plan> but yes, this channel goes offtopic most of the time really :p
[2025-08-27T22:08:46Z] <evahasarrived> to be fair, you could only get five-minutes conversation about linux
[2025-08-27T22:08:58Z] <evahasarrived> what awk do you use?
[2025-08-27T22:09:00Z] <evahasarrived> oh oh i see
[2025-08-27T23:41:21Z] <dery> sad_plan: note that I changed username
[2025-08-27T23:41:25Z] <dery> I was riteo