[2025-09-02T01:10:59Z] wait a second [2025-09-02T01:11:12Z] what? [2025-09-02T01:11:15Z] is it weird over there to have delis pack their own stuff [2025-09-02T01:11:52Z] cause I think I've seen it here in one way or another and it's like seen as the lazy way of going to the deli or something [2025-09-02T01:12:08Z] not necessarily lazy, just... faster? [2025-09-02T01:12:18Z] that said I'm genuinely curious [2025-09-02T01:12:39Z] doesnt they just recieve prepacked stuff, ready to heat? [2025-09-02T01:13:15Z] wait a deli sells like ham right [2025-09-02T01:13:40Z] as in a large ham, or as in a pack of sliced ham? :p [2025-09-02T01:13:45Z] uhhhh [2025-09-02T01:13:50Z] slice ham on the spot? [2025-09-02T01:13:52Z] salumiere? [2025-09-02T01:14:05Z] ohhh it's not that [2025-09-02T01:14:06Z] my bad [2025-09-02T01:14:06Z] never seen that myself. [2025-09-02T01:14:22Z] how are they called over there [2025-09-02T01:14:34Z] the... cured meat? shops [2025-09-02T01:14:46Z] you know if you want to get 200g of ham or something [2025-09-02T01:16:05Z] Aight I'm starting to think that there might be some interesting cultural difference here [2025-09-02T01:16:48Z] I guessing a 200g piece of ham? not all shops have these. an delis here is just called kiosks if theyre really small, or its just called a shop [2025-09-02T01:16:52Z] might be [2025-09-02T01:17:40Z] mh yea when I think of a "salumiere" I think of a shop full of cured meats (like, huge hams) and you can ask them to slice em and get a set amount [2025-09-02T01:17:45Z] want some prosciutto? You get it sliced [2025-09-02T01:17:58Z] salami, same thing [2025-09-02T01:18:47Z] so I guess cured meats are mostly prepackaged over there? We have prepackaged (like, shelf) cured meats too but they're like, ehhhh [2025-09-02T01:18:48Z] we dont have butchers here really. meat is mostly either sold prepaced in food shops, or some shops have a dedicated *butcher* part in their shop [2025-09-02T01:19:20Z] mhhh I see [2025-09-02T01:19:26Z] do butchers also do cured meats [2025-09-02T01:19:30Z] like ham [2025-09-02T01:20:24Z] I suppose so. [2025-09-02T01:20:52Z] oh that's interesting [2025-09-02T01:21:01Z] at my local shop we have a butcher section *and* a salumiere [2025-09-02T01:22:38Z] I bought 'ham and cheese' at a zoo in italy once, and got mozarella balls and smoked-cured ham i think its called. I had to guess what was what on the meny, and ham and cheese was the only thing I to a degree knew what it was. lol [2025-09-02T01:22:59Z] oh mozzarella and prosciutto i guess [2025-09-02T01:23:05Z] correct [2025-09-02T01:23:09Z] classic starter [2025-09-02T01:23:16Z] although prosciutto isn't usually smoked [2025-09-02T01:23:32Z] maybe not smoked, but cured anyhow [2025-09-02T01:23:37Z] somewhat salty [2025-09-02T01:23:38Z] yea [2025-09-02T01:23:42Z] gonna tell ya a secret [2025-09-02T01:23:46Z] not a huge fan imo, [2025-09-02T01:23:50Z] please do [2025-09-02T01:24:21Z] for some fucking reason it's perfectly normal to eat prosciutto with... cantaloupe or melon I don't remember [2025-09-02T01:24:40Z] I kid you fucking not [2025-09-02T01:25:04Z] like imagine a slice of cantaloupe with a slice of prosciutto on it [2025-09-02T01:25:09Z] https://duespaghetti.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Prosciutto-e-melone-2.jpg [2025-09-02T01:25:39Z] it's very yummy ngl but I still don't understand why people are so vehemently against pineapple on pizza [2025-09-02T01:25:57Z] when we do weird stuff like this lol [2025-09-02T01:25:59Z] does not sound apetizing lol [2025-09-02T01:26:14Z] yea it really does not but it's a nice combo [2025-09-02T01:27:10Z] when I was in bolzano, there were this old dude who had a stand just outside our appartment, and he had these large was and posters with some beer company logo on them. he sold beer, and these huuuge melons. i was always curious about the combo lol [2025-09-02T01:27:10Z] the more time goes by and the more I realize that the way we eat is way more different than I thought [2025-09-02T01:27:18Z] lol [2025-09-02T01:27:24Z] probably some kiosk? [2025-09-02T01:27:36Z] something like that. [2025-09-02T01:27:54Z] for some reason veggie sellers also sell drinks [2025-09-02T01:28:02Z] it wasnt very well made, he sat on some camping chair with a friend on the side iirc [2025-09-02T01:28:11Z] wierd [2025-09-02T01:28:20Z] yea they usually sell like a specific thing or whatever local fruit they got or something [2025-09-02T01:28:24Z] realtively sketchy but perfectly fine [2025-09-02T01:28:33Z] probably an italy thing, as Ive not seen this specifically elsewhere [2025-09-02T01:28:47Z] oh that's interesting [2025-09-02T01:28:54Z] bolzano is in the north so you've seen nothing lol [2025-09-02T01:29:08Z] I don't know northen italian culture that well so I'm perhaps missing something myself [2025-09-02T01:29:28Z] ive been in the south aswell, I dont recall old men selling beer and melons elsewhere though [2025-09-02T01:29:42Z] there are kiosks for everything [2025-09-02T01:30:02Z] there's a woman selling like, some kind of shellfish I don't know the name of [2025-09-02T01:30:12Z] mussel? [2025-09-02T01:30:28Z] yea [2025-09-02T01:30:31Z] only that [2025-09-02T01:30:49Z] I see. so some cultural thing then. here all big stores just takes over really. so smaller stores dont seem to make it.. [2025-09-02T01:31:20Z] that's an issue here too unfortunately [2025-09-02T01:31:35Z] I suppose thats the case most places really [2025-09-02T01:31:36Z] those kiosks things probably go by exactly because they're sketchy-ish [2025-09-02T01:31:40Z] like, probably no license or something log [2025-09-02T01:31:41Z] lol [2025-09-02T01:31:58Z] again the produce is fine it's the setup that's sketchy [2025-09-02T01:32:04Z] or because of regular customers whove been going there for the past 20 years [2025-09-02T01:32:14Z] oh yeah that too [2025-09-02T01:32:43Z] yep. people like rutine, and familiar things [2025-09-02T01:32:56Z] you usually see em in the periphery and stuff [2025-09-02T01:33:23Z] that said it's really cool to see so many differences [2025-09-02T01:33:37Z] one kinda gives for granted that everybody eats and buys food the same way [2025-09-02T01:34:50Z] also most salumerias I went to sell bread too and you can ask them to make you a sandwitch directly and package it with freshly cut stuff [2025-09-02T01:34:52Z] nope. in italy you guys dont eat a proper breakfast. I kinda hated it. I love that you can justify buying crepes or pancakes for breakfast, but when I want a cold glass of milk, I cant have it [2025-09-02T01:35:10Z] maybe I missed those shops [2025-09-02T01:35:12Z] also I just realized that salumerias are also delis [2025-09-02T01:35:18Z] they have some premade food [2025-09-02T01:35:32Z] and stuff to put in said sandwitches [2025-09-02T01:35:46Z] I'm still personally kinda surprised that it's so widespread and apparently you can take it for granted, at least in big shops [2025-09-02T01:35:55Z] wrt breakfast yea [2025-09-02T01:36:01Z] it's extremely common to eat sweet stuff [2025-09-02T01:36:10Z] i know, its really wierd [2025-09-02T01:36:16Z] but cold glass of milk doesn't sound far off [2025-09-02T01:36:28Z] where did you ask it [2025-09-02T01:36:38Z] a bar? [2025-09-02T01:36:58Z] when I was at the hotel, I was asked what I wanted to eat/drink, and he just looked really wierd at me, when I meentioned milk, or breadslices with ham and cheese [2025-09-02T01:37:07Z] just the hotel really [2025-09-02T01:37:12Z] wait at lunch? [2025-09-02T01:37:43Z] no, for breakfast [2025-09-02T01:37:47Z] that's weird lemme tell ya [2025-09-02T01:38:05Z] it's actually perhaps even more normal I'd say [2025-09-02T01:38:12Z] like cappuccino and cornetto is the bar breakfast [2025-09-02T01:38:13Z] at that point I gave up, and drank apple juice instead and croicants with nutella [2025-09-02T01:38:31Z] right [2025-09-02T01:38:35Z] but in the household it's usually "fette biscottate" (uhhh forgot the translation) and jam [2025-09-02T01:38:52Z] rusk [2025-09-02T01:39:08Z] or whatever [2025-09-02T01:39:21Z] crepes are like super nice and extra I'd say [2025-09-02T01:39:29Z] mhhh I haven't had one in ages [2025-09-02T01:39:37Z] uhm.. you mean like bunns? small round bread thingys? [2025-09-02T01:40:01Z] fette biscottate look like white bread slice but are super crunchy [2025-09-02T01:40:06Z] yeah, we came across a shop when we were at kos aswell, and his crepes really fucked [2025-09-02T01:40:08Z] I see [2025-09-02T01:40:10Z] the translation is rusk [2025-09-02T01:40:16Z] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusk [2025-09-02T01:40:18Z] never heard of it [2025-09-02T01:40:41Z] melba toast? [2025-09-02T01:40:43Z] wierd name. its just slices of white bread [2025-09-02T01:41:12Z] no it's actually very crunchy [2025-09-02T01:41:18Z] it crumbles if you crush it [2025-09-02T01:41:21Z] like powder [2025-09-02T01:41:28Z] uhhh it's kinda hard to explain [2025-09-02T01:41:37Z] it's like if you super toasted a slice of white bread [2025-09-02T01:41:48Z] in norwegian, rusk means.. dust or dirt. lol. or if you are rust, youre crazy. lol [2025-09-02T01:42:00Z] s/rust/rusk/ [2025-09-02T01:42:04Z] lmao [2025-09-02T01:42:41Z] that said yea that hotel was being weird [2025-09-02T01:42:46Z] like what if you want cereal [2025-09-02T01:42:52Z] why should you not get a cup of milk [2025-09-02T01:43:16Z] yeah I get what you mean. we have something alike here, but its not slices of bread, its more like mini bagueettes sliced in two, and dried. I remember having it in a bowl with milk when I was a kid [2025-09-02T01:43:18Z] it's common for the cool hotel breakfast buffets to have various dispensers for milk and cereal [2025-09-02T01:43:46Z] I could not have cerial obivously in that hotel. only shots of coffe, or other sweets. it was really wierd [2025-09-02T01:44:12Z] yeah, but not this hotel in particular appearantly. although it was a smaller hotel though [2025-09-02T01:44:24Z] weird indeed [2025-09-02T01:44:36Z] yeah [2025-09-02T01:44:42Z] btw in which part of southern italy have you been if I might ask [2025-09-02T01:45:07Z] uh, rome and naples. naples is where this wierd hotel was [2025-09-02T01:45:22Z] uh [2025-09-02T01:45:24Z] not a super fan of either, too busy for my taste [2025-09-02T01:45:32Z] lol yea naples is quite something [2025-09-02T01:46:11Z] that's even weirder btw [2025-09-02T01:46:22Z] really never heard of a hotel like that [2025-09-02T01:46:48Z] hope you liked the food though, pizza comes from naples [2025-09-02T01:46:54Z] yeah. we also was going to see pompeii, but when we were waiting for the train, we were evacuated, because of some suspecious bag someone left there. suspected to be a bomb or some shit :( [2025-09-02T01:46:55Z] hope you tried one there [2025-09-02T01:47:01Z] it wasnt a bomb after all though [2025-09-02T01:47:12Z] holy moly [2025-09-02T01:47:19Z] that sucks [2025-09-02T01:47:56Z] in the meanwhile I brought a fake DIY disassembled geiger counter with batteries on the train and nobody blinked an eye lmao [2025-09-02T01:47:58Z] yeah, we ate pizza there, but and it was ok. but i prefer american for some reason. I like the thicker buttom really [2025-09-02T01:48:22Z] that's fair [2025-09-02T01:48:22Z] probably didnt notice what it was [2025-09-02T01:48:59Z] what do you need a fake diy giger counter for anyway? [2025-09-02T01:49:04Z] that's a great question [2025-09-02T01:49:16Z] this friend of mine made an on-the-spot escape room for new year eve [2025-09-02T01:49:32Z] for terribly, terribly, dumb reasons I could not get invited so I tried helping setting it up at least [2025-09-02T01:50:00Z] sounds like a bad friend :( [2025-09-02T01:50:03Z] and I made this lil esp32 thing that continuously does a fast scan for a wifi hotspot and uses its RSSI as a factor for the fake noise [2025-09-02T01:50:07Z] it was not their fault [2025-09-02T01:50:13Z] it was the fault of an actual bad friend [2025-09-02T01:50:19Z] never tried those escape rooms, but ive been wanting too [2025-09-02T01:50:25Z] I see [2025-09-02T01:50:31Z] obviously I tried to overdo it with PCB and shit [2025-09-02T01:50:43Z] and had to yolo it with premade boards as I should've done from the start [2025-09-02T01:51:04Z] everything worked out at the last second by sheer chance [2025-09-02T01:51:08Z] really love hardware hacking [2025-09-02T01:51:32Z] I swear once I get economically independent I should really look into proper hardware hacking [2025-09-02T01:51:37Z] it's crazy expensive [2025-09-02T01:51:46Z] I would love to do hardware hacking, but I dont even know where to start [2025-09-02T01:52:03Z] I'd say, like, unironically, one of those amazon arduino suitcases [2025-09-02T01:52:12Z] if by hacking you mean EE DIY building stuff [2025-09-02T01:52:15Z] theres so much cool stuff on crowdsupply, but I cant even begin to fathom a usecase for even half of it [2025-09-02T01:52:34Z] the arduino suitcases are not enough for making an actual project but should give you a good idea of what you can do [2025-09-02T01:52:40Z] with the various modules and stuff [2025-09-02T01:53:16Z] re usecases I'd say that it's not that different from software development [2025-09-02T01:53:37Z] either do something as a challenge, as a learning experience or because you (or someone) need it [2025-09-02T01:54:03Z] hmm [2025-09-02T01:54:20Z] and you do not need to learn actual advanced EE [2025-09-02T01:54:29Z] most stuff is premade modules [2025-09-02T01:54:46Z] and if you want to make your own it shouldn't be too hard with enough experimentation and looking online [2025-09-02T01:55:04Z] hackaday is a great source of inspiration IMO [2025-09-02T01:55:23Z] they report various projects and oftentimes write their own columns, sometimes with some very interesting info [2025-09-02T01:55:33Z] like their M.2 or USB-C columns [2025-09-02T01:55:46Z] and lastly, hardware hacking isn't only making something new, but even just recycling it [2025-09-02T01:56:30Z] I'd say that my ziptied-laptop-in-a-pc-case NAS 100% counts as a hack [2025-09-02T01:57:05Z] right. ive seen some of them actually. I kinda wish i have, or had access to a 3d printer [2025-09-02T01:57:14Z] so yea, just wing it :D [2025-09-02T01:57:30Z] regarding 3d printers yea they're extremely useful and not that expensive anymore [2025-09-02T01:57:35Z] I keep seeing all these cool 3d printed stuff, and here i am, not having a 3d printer. lol [2025-09-02T01:57:42Z] I still remember getting my original ender 3 for ~160€ in 2018 or something [2025-09-02T01:57:53Z] I know, I just dont wanna cash out for one. maybe im just cheap :p [2025-09-02T01:58:01Z] I mean 3d printing is actually very specific in regarding to useful usecases [2025-09-02T01:58:11Z] haven't touched mine in ages [2025-09-02T01:58:14Z] although I should finish SADISM [2025-09-02T01:58:31Z] holy crap I can't understand how nobody picked up that idea properly yet [2025-09-02T01:58:47Z] what idea? [2025-09-02T01:59:07Z] it's a project I thought about a few years ago and made a prototype of [2025-09-02T01:59:13Z] I see [2025-09-02T01:59:26Z] basically the cheapest VR option ever [2025-09-02T01:59:39Z] something akin to PS-Move but instead of using infrared it uses aruco codes [2025-09-02T02:00:03Z] I hacked opencv into monado and made it connect to the webcam, it takes the position and rotation and it actually works [2025-09-02T02:00:18Z] obviously motion blur messes up stuff so it needs accelerometer+gyro just like ps-move [2025-09-02T02:00:38Z] and I took functions from that driver (no idea about the math lmao) [2025-09-02T02:00:58Z] but I ordered the wrong sensors and by the time the new one came I lost momentum :skull: [2025-09-02T02:01:26Z] also it's called SADISM because I got inspired by the cruelty squad VR mod [2025-09-02T02:01:31Z] and it's a reverse acronym obviously [2025-09-02T02:01:45Z] I really love how I named all of its concepts [2025-09-02T02:01:49Z] like each node is a limb [2025-09-02T02:01:52Z] even the head [2025-09-02T02:02:33Z] and the acronym stands for "Simple and Affordable Detector for Immersive Simulations in Motion" [2025-09-02T02:04:11Z] that might have been the greatest hack I've ever did [2025-09-02T02:04:24Z] working on a codebase you've never touched is quite something [2025-09-02T02:04:53Z] damn I should really pick it up [2025-09-02T02:04:56Z] but yea that's it [2025-09-02T02:06:15Z] so yeah, do anything, whether it for fun or necessity [2025-09-02T02:06:26Z] a 3d printer is not that essential either I'd say [2025-09-02T02:06:55Z] you could use scrap wood or, dunno, single-use wood utensils lol [2025-09-02T02:07:17Z] there are also generic off-the-shelf project boxes online, that's the traditional way [2025-09-02T02:07:39Z] have fun :D [2025-09-02T02:28:11Z] I suppose so. I see many people just use pelican cases aswell for their project. it gets boring after seeing too many of them after another though [2025-09-02T02:28:44Z] but yes, getting diy off the shelf stuff would be ideal for me really. no need for custom bs really. just put the pieces together [2025-09-02T04:47:28Z] sad_plan: you can also check if you have a local workshop or tool library [2025-09-02T04:47:44Z] they'll let you use the facilities there for low or no cost and sometimes even the materials if there's excess [2025-09-02T04:48:15Z] also happy (US/CAN) labour day [2025-09-02T04:48:27Z] also also it's september which means summer is finally over [2025-09-02T04:48:28Z] thank god [2025-09-02T09:15:31Z] unfortunately my laptop's hinges broke after a nasty fall [2025-09-02T09:15:38Z] fortunately the framework 12 has nearly identical hinges [2025-09-02T12:37:08Z] i hope you're healthy and well midfavila [2025-09-02T16:09:17Z] took the reform apart, both hinges broke in exactly the same way [2025-09-02T16:09:33Z] the top joint is snapped clean in half and the bottom one is bent in such a way that it's completely seized [2025-09-02T20:24:17Z] midfavila: theres no such thing here afaik. there were a phone repairshop here, but they ran out of business iirc [2025-09-02T20:24:43Z] * sad_plan shrugs [2025-09-02T20:25:41Z] midfavila: you could order new ones from mnt though? pretty sure they would be somewhat helpfull here