[2025-09-06T02:20:10Z] <dery> yea indeed
[2025-09-06T02:20:12Z] <dery> it's very misleading
[2025-09-06T02:20:38Z] <dery> it says "All of the single-character shell options documented in the description of the set builtin command, including -o, can be used as options when the shell is invoked."
[2025-09-06T02:20:44Z] <dery> which means "go halfway through the manual lol"
[2025-09-06T02:21:20Z] <dery> and then the description for -x is very longwinded
[2025-09-06T02:21:40Z] <dery> "After expanding each simple command, for command, case command, select command, or arithmetic for command, display the expanded value of PS4, followed by the command and its expanded arguments or associated word list."
[2025-09-06T02:22:10Z] <dery> shells are a mess lmao
[2025-09-06T09:56:04Z] <sewn> dery: this is why I read the POSIX man page instead
[2025-09-06T12:56:44Z] <sad_plan> POSIX is the way to go indeed
[2025-09-06T13:41:07Z] <sad_plan> I must be stupid. I was going to watch 4 seasons of a tv series I had on disk. it was already in my playlist for mpv, but when I was going to start playing it, I have appearantly deleted all 4 seasons. lol
[2025-09-06T13:41:22Z] <sad_plan> luckily Ive already transfered what I was going to watch after that
[2025-09-06T14:41:57Z] <dery> sewn: I mean tbf sh(1p) has the same "go to set" thing
[2025-09-06T14:42:05Z] <dery> but at least the -x description is more obvious
[2025-09-06T14:42:32Z] <dery> "The shell shall write to standard error a trace for each command after it expands the command and before it executes it. It is unspecified whether the command that turns tracing off is traced."
[2025-09-06T14:47:08Z] <sad_plan> once again, bash manage to suck ^
[2025-09-06T18:10:21Z] <chud8934934> would kiss linux be good for a server
[2025-09-06T18:10:32Z] <sad_plan> chud8934934: yes
[2025-09-06T18:10:39Z] <sad_plan> ofcourse it would 
[2025-09-06T18:10:44Z] <sad_plan> kiss is great for everything
[2025-09-06T18:10:58Z] <chud8934934> im trying to set it up encrypted
[2025-09-06T18:11:04Z] <chud8934934> hope it works
[2025-09-06T18:11:30Z] <sad_plan> it does, but requires a bit more work than an unencrypted install
[2025-09-06T18:11:46Z] <sad_plan> youd need an initramfs iirc.
[2025-09-06T18:12:15Z] <chud8934934> that's all i need to compile in the kernel?
[2025-09-06T18:13:10Z] <sad_plan> ive never used encryption on my kiss install before, but iirc, yeah you need it. you can search the logs here for more info. its been asked several times
[2025-09-06T18:13:55Z] <sad_plan> it seems you dont need it; see here: https://kisscommunity.org/FAQ/#024