[2025-09-15T02:05:13Z] does anyone has no-perl-patch for kernel 6.12.25 [2025-09-15T02:05:38Z] https://kisscommunity.org/kernel/patches/kernel-no-perl.patch This fails [2025-09-15T02:07:16Z] for which kernel version was this patch made [2025-09-15T11:50:54Z] it werks with 6.1.152 [2025-09-15T11:51:54Z] cstrm: you have to adjust the patch [2025-09-15T11:52:25Z] mcf also has a patch for it iirc, but it probably also needs some adjustments. but I belive he has made it work on 6.12 [2025-09-15T11:52:39Z] sad_plan yeah i will do it laters [2025-09-15T11:52:41Z] youll find the commit under oasislinux/linux, and just find the commits done by michael forney [2025-09-15T11:52:55Z] oh cool [2025-09-15T11:53:25Z] i dont belive he explicitly mentions perl in this instance, but if you know which file requires perl, I think he mentions it in the commit. OID something iirc [2025-09-15T11:54:25Z] yes, build_OID_registry. he rewrites it into awk if my memory serves me right. might needs some fiddling anyway, but atleast theres an alternative [2025-09-15T11:55:37Z] ill look into it thanks [2025-09-15T11:55:43Z] yw [2025-09-15T15:21:13Z] found out something interesting last night. turns out i just happened to luck into a magic gear ratio on my bike, so the chain has sufficient tension merely as a result of being run across the front and rear cogs [2025-09-15T15:21:23Z] no need for a derailleur or horizontal dropouts this way [2025-09-15T16:25:24Z] im trying to use sway but everytime i launch it (with seatd-launch) its just a white screen with a black cursor and i cant open anything, fairly sure its a graphic issue (might be wrong) but i dont know why its happening or how to fix it [2025-09-15T16:25:24Z] i use this same kernel config on voidlinux and also used it previously on kiss like 3 months ago and it worked fine, but i was just setting it up tdy and started facing this issue [2025-09-15T16:25:24Z] i have nvidia (using nouveau) and an amd igpu, i built in all the firmware required into the kernel and dont use any sort of initramfs either [2025-09-15T16:25:24Z] i did everything i could think of - [2025-09-15T16:25:24Z] - recompiled the kernel (lts kernel btw) [2025-09-15T16:25:24Z] - forced it to use my amd card (through env variables and kernel params) [2025-09-15T16:25:24Z] - disabled nouveau, added some kernel params and modesetting too, tried "forcing" gles2 [2025-09-15T16:25:25Z] - checked mesa configure options, recompiled mesa wayland wlroots and sway with "safer" flags (-O2 -pipe -march=native) [2025-09-15T16:25:25Z] - logged everything but found no immediate errors (there were a few regarding nouveau: cannot find any crtc or sizes but it doesnt launch on amd either so i ignored it) [2025-09-15T16:25:26Z] - checked my user account's groups [2025-09-15T16:25:26Z] it isnt a firmware issue afaik since theres no errors regarding that, and it can't possibly be an issue with my build flags right? yes my user account is already added to all the required groups - wheel video audio input and some 2 other groups listed in the wiki [2025-09-15T16:25:28Z] tried with dwl too - same issue (as expected) [2025-09-15T16:25:30Z] i reallyyyyy dont wanna start from scratch cuz i just built everything i need on this system including firefox and nodejs which took like 2hrs :( though idm doing it cuz i didnt run into any build issues anyway (finally) [2025-09-15T16:25:32Z] its just that this is my 2nd "setup" this week because the first had the same issue (and i definitely didnt break the entire compiler toolchain on that first attempt) [2025-09-15T16:25:54Z] oh god i feared this would happen, sorry im new to irc i didnt know it would end up splitting everything :/ [2025-09-15T16:30:40Z] all good [2025-09-15T16:31:13Z] oceanic: are you able to sysrq or switch ttys? make sure to enable sway's verbose logging and see exactly what problem it could be [2025-09-15T16:31:36Z] also, you should run seatd as a service and add yourself to the appropiate group rather than using seatd-launch [2025-09-15T16:32:03Z] i haven't tried sysrq but yes in able to switch ttys, and yeah I did enable sways verbose logging, checked it and found no errors [2025-09-15T16:32:04Z] you should also try different compositors and as a last ditch effort even trying to see if X11 works as well (which will need you to fork mesa) [2025-09-15T16:32:27Z] eg. dwl [2025-09-15T16:32:38Z] i also did try running seatd as a service and it didnt fix it so I just kept using seatd-launch [2025-09-15T16:32:47Z] a white screen with a black cursor, is the cursor just a black box? [2025-09-15T16:32:52Z] oh and yeha I tried dwl but its the same issue [2025-09-15T16:33:01Z] no the cursors the adwaita cursor [2025-09-15T16:33:03Z] oceanic: if you set it up as a service just.. keep it that way? but anyway [2025-09-15T16:33:09Z] oceanic: so, does the cursor move [2025-09-15T16:33:38Z] dwl and sway have different ways of displaying a background so having a single white screen on both is kind of shocking [2025-09-15T16:33:45Z] ya I can move it freely but I can't do anything else, even when I launch a terminal like its still just a white screen, though I can still type commands (I just can't see it) [2025-09-15T16:34:09Z] ye exactly hence why i do think its a graphics issue but still can't figure out why its happening [2025-09-15T16:34:32Z] if you have an nvidia gpu, are you using the nvidia driver? [2025-09-15T16:34:35Z] i even tried software rendering thru some env vars but that turned the white screen black and didnt fix anything [2025-09-15T16:34:47Z] or are you on regular KISS [2025-09-15T16:34:56Z] no I was using nouveau, but I have the same issue with my and igpu too which is weird [2025-09-15T16:35:02Z] yeah I'm on regular kiss [2025-09-15T16:35:42Z] it used to work too (I think uve seen the pic I sent in disc a month ago too) [2025-09-15T16:36:17Z] why arent you on gkiss [2025-09-15T16:36:37Z] 1) it has a looot of stupid errors [2025-09-15T16:36:55Z] 2) musl still works for me cuz I dont use the prop drivers anyway [2025-09-15T16:37:18Z] stupid errors hm strange it should work and if it doesnt you should have reported it [2025-09-15T16:37:22Z] 3) gkiss' tarball is old as hell and I like musl more [2025-09-15T16:37:22Z] try switching wlroots renderers [2025-09-15T16:37:28Z] theres a list of documented wlroots variables [2025-09-15T16:37:35Z] and because youre using nouveau you might want to tweak those [2025-09-15T16:37:40Z] i didnt report but I did fix most of them, its just a pain though [2025-09-15T16:37:40Z] if it used to work then it should also continue working [2025-09-15T16:37:49Z] * sewn never had such problems using gkiss [2025-09-15T16:38:02Z] check for any kernel log oddities as well [2025-09-15T16:38:07Z] dmesg -l err for example [2025-09-15T16:38:16Z] oh ok, I only tried gles2 which I believe is the default and I dont think my card supports vulkan in nouveau [2025-09-15T16:38:26Z] oke I'll check kernel logs too