[2025-10-12T05:17:06Z] <midfavila> sad_plan actually it turned out surprisingly well lmao
[2025-10-12T05:17:38Z] <midfavila> owing to me needing to clean the fuck out of my actual oven, i've been using my dutch oven on my induction hotplate to bake things. works surprisingly well
[2025-10-12T05:17:59Z] <midfavila> dery: i actually almost never eat pasta
[2025-10-12T05:18:30Z] <midfavila> i have like 10kg of it in the cupboard Just In Case:tm: there's an extended supply shortage and i get a real craving for mac and cheese or something 
[2025-10-12T05:18:47Z] <midfavila> but yeah idk i just never got into pasta lol
[2025-10-12T05:19:04Z] <midfavila> the most pasta-y thing i ate growing up is kraft dinner 
[2025-10-12T05:19:13Z] <midfavila> which is just shitty cheapo mac and cheese lol
[2025-10-12T05:19:26Z] <midfavila> probably one of five things you could call "canadian" cuisine
[2025-10-12T05:21:25Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: thats supprising, but nice
[2025-10-12T05:22:50Z] <midfavila> ye
[2025-10-12T06:43:17Z] <dery> oh midfavila I was hoping for a improv reenactment of steamed hams
[2025-10-12T06:43:22Z] <dery> my brain is cooked
[2025-10-12T07:03:03Z] <midfavila> just drank 2l of coffee
[2025-10-12T07:03:05Z] <midfavila> going to live forever
[2025-10-12T07:11:17Z] <esotericwarfare> do you guys use kiss linux?
[2025-10-12T07:11:30Z] <esotericwarfare> as mainly driver
[2025-10-12T07:20:58Z] <sad_plan> esotericwarfare: the only sane choice is yes
[2025-10-12T07:25:22Z] <midfavila> esotericwarfare: i used it from 2020-2023 as my main daily driver 
[2025-10-12T07:25:25Z] <midfavila> through college
[2025-10-12T07:26:06Z] <midfavila> kiss has a very high initial investment required but once you have everything set up just the way you'd like you don't need to touch anything aside from the occasional version bump for software 
[2025-10-12T07:28:19Z] <esotericwarfare> why don't use you it anymore?
[2025-10-12T07:38:56Z] <midfavila> esotericwarfare because i'm working on my own system now
[2025-10-12T07:39:13Z] <midfavila> kiss is still nice but there are some very minor things that aren't quite what i want 
[2025-10-12T08:03:37Z] <midfavila>  esotericwarfare: because i'm working on my own system now.  kiss is still nice but there are some very minor things that aren't quite what i want 
[2025-10-12T08:03:44Z] <midfavila> repost just in case you don't read logs
[2025-10-12T08:18:38Z] <esotericwarfare> midfavila: Oh I see
[2025-10-12T09:01:12Z] <kris_> alright we're gonna see how this goes
[2025-10-12T09:01:14Z] <kris_> changed my soju setup
[2025-10-12T09:04:55Z] <sad_plan> kris_: did you now make it so that it writes to disk and not memory?
[2025-10-12T09:05:11Z] <kris_> i did. can you see my IP address? if so, curious what that's reporting as
[2025-10-12T09:05:45Z] <kris_> ah i have the masking thing enabled i think so idk if that would even be accurate
[2025-10-12T09:05:57Z] <sad_plan> not sure how I can fetch that through irc
[2025-10-12T09:06:06Z] <kris_> most clients broadcast it when someone connects
[2025-10-12T09:06:28Z] <sad_plan> reports ~kirs_@user/kris-:46089
[2025-10-12T09:06:37Z] <sad_plan> ops, kris_ not kirs
[2025-10-12T09:07:02Z] <sad_plan> --> kris_ [kris_] (kris_) (~kris_@user/kris-:46098)
[2025-10-12T09:07:04Z] <sad_plan> to be exacl
[2025-10-12T09:07:05Z] <kris_> alright, can you do me a favor and DM me in like 10 seconds im gonna close my client to see if this actually plays back
[2025-10-12T09:07:14Z] <sad_plan> sure
[2025-10-12T09:08:58Z] <kris_> omg i still have my chat history in here too after closing my client
[2025-10-12T09:09:12Z] <kris_> i've made the setup even more convoluted honestly but it's all working
[2025-10-12T09:09:16Z] <sad_plan> power of a properly configured bouncer
[2025-10-12T09:09:31Z] <kris_> this is the dorkiest config i've ever done in my life
[2025-10-12T09:09:37Z] <sad_plan> really?
[2025-10-12T09:09:50Z] <kris_> yeah. self-signed certs on a machine in my house that i have VPN'd into a vps running openbsd + wireguard
[2025-10-12T09:10:00Z] <kris_> covers my IP address + i get to write to disk without being anxious about it
[2025-10-12T09:10:16Z] <kris_> IRCS on LAN as well 
[2025-10-12T09:10:23Z] <sad_plan> nice
[2025-10-12T09:10:35Z] <kris_> now i just have to figure out how to get my phone client to connect to it
[2025-10-12T09:10:53Z] <kris_> problem is, goguma doesn't seem to like ircs+insecure, meaning ircs but don't validate the certs since they're self signed
[2025-10-12T09:11:15Z] <sad_plan> iirc, you just use the servers domain or ip. its been some time since ive used goguma
[2025-10-12T09:11:19Z] <sad_plan> not sure about your setup though
[2025-10-12T09:11:35Z] <kris_> i'm forcing ircs at the moment, usually clients have an option to not validate the cert but use anyway
[2025-10-12T09:11:36Z] <sad_plan> ive only used it to connect to pico.sh, which I no longer use, cause its no longer free :(
[2025-10-12T09:12:15Z] <sad_plan> dunno if goguma can do that. last time i checked, it was pretty beta...
[2025-10-12T09:12:27Z] <kris_> idk we'll see, hold on
[2025-10-12T09:14:15Z] <kris_> actually i bet they have an irc channel i can just askin
[2025-10-12T09:14:32Z] <kris_> if all else fails, there's a weechat for android but idk how well that would behave with soju
[2025-10-12T09:17:30Z] <kris_> access to the bouncer from not home is solved because i just have wireguard on my router, i'm not actually exposing anything here so it should be a pretty comfy setup
[2025-10-12T09:22:35Z] <sad_plan> iirc, #goguma exists, yes
[2025-10-12T09:22:39Z] <sad_plan> nce
[2025-10-12T10:13:37Z] <kris_> yeah the issue was that goguma doesnt support ed25519 certs
[2025-10-12T10:13:40Z] <kris_> only RSA
[2025-10-12T10:14:29Z] <kris_> luckily sojus logs told me that
[2025-10-12T10:21:41Z] <sad_plan> thats stupid. rsa is deprecated or atleast considere insecure
[2025-10-12T10:23:49Z] <kris_> i don't think it's considered *insecure*
[2025-10-12T10:23:58Z] <kris_> i think ECC is just considered theoretically better
[2025-10-12T10:33:36Z] <sad_plan> i must misremember. it must been something else. maybe it was one of the sha implementations
[2025-10-12T10:35:06Z] <sad_plan> some does however think rsa is insecure https://blog.sivo.it.com/cryptography-security/why-is-rsa-insecure/
[2025-10-12T10:36:11Z] <sad_plan> wikipedia also mentions somethingsomething padding schemes may expose an vaurlability
[2025-10-12T10:37:09Z] <sad_plan> seems that lower bits rsa is mostly the issue here. ie. 1024 bits rsa key size
[2025-10-12T10:38:03Z] <sad_plan> ah yes, openssh declared ssh-rsa depecrated. thats maybe where ive read it
[2025-10-12T10:38:27Z] <kris_> yeah they've moved on over to modern stuff
[2025-10-12T10:38:31Z] <kris_> ed25519 by default
[2025-10-12T10:38:41Z] <kris_> and yeah, 1024 is probably insecure but 4096 and 8192 are still considered fine iirc
[2025-10-12T10:38:42Z] <sad_plan> yes
[2025-10-12T10:38:55Z] <kris_> and its fine, i just want some degree of encryption on LAN it doesn't need to be state actor proof
[2025-10-12T10:39:14Z] <sad_plan> 2048 seems to still be *fine* aswell, but higher would probably be better
[2025-10-12T10:41:44Z] <sad_plan> re state actor proof: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png
[2025-10-12T10:41:48Z] <sad_plan> I had to though
[2025-10-12T10:42:11Z] <sad_plan> funny, it also contains rsa
[2025-10-12T10:45:18Z] <kris_> i love xkcd
[2025-10-12T10:45:47Z] <kris_> also yeah lmao
[2025-10-12T10:50:19Z] <sad_plan> theyre pretty funny
[2025-10-12T10:50:21Z] <sad_plan> lol
[2025-10-12T10:54:26Z] <kris_> i hate iptables
[2025-10-12T18:08:04Z] <phinxy> Is there a way to get python gtk apps like gaupol subtitle editor to work without gobject-introspection?
[2025-10-12T18:10:57Z] <phinxy> I guess I'll try Subtitle Editor (GTK3) instead