[2025-10-16T06:04:18Z] <midfavila> kris_: have you decided which pvp faction you need to spend the rest of your life with
[2025-10-16T06:04:32Z] <midfavila> are you a dempulikkkan or a republikkkrat
[2025-10-16T12:02:49Z] <kris_> midfavila: horde
[2025-10-16T15:17:34Z] <midfavila> ah yes
[2025-10-16T15:17:38Z] <midfavila> respectable bipartisanship
[2025-10-16T15:18:18Z] <midfavila> understandable
[2025-10-16T15:22:35Z] <kris_> for the horde
[2025-10-16T15:22:38Z] <kris_> always
[2025-10-16T15:46:24Z] <midfavila> >do you condemn the alliance? do you condemn the alliance? do you condemn the alliance?
[2025-10-16T17:12:04Z] <midfavila> gotta get myself one of those tanker desks
[2025-10-16T17:12:04Z] <midfavila> that would be sick
[2025-10-16T17:42:11Z] <kris_> midfavila: the alliance is evil
[2025-10-16T19:23:59Z] <kris_> seems like #lineageos only tempbanned me during my bouncer woes
[2025-10-16T19:24:00Z] <kris_> that's nice at least
[2025-10-16T19:46:49Z] <kris_> i sure love WoW pvp servers
[2025-10-16T19:54:19Z] <midfavila> found a tanker
[2025-10-16T19:54:27Z] <midfavila> 66" by 33" by 29"
[2025-10-16T19:54:28Z] <midfavila> lmao
[2025-10-16T19:54:37Z] <midfavila> that'll carry all my computer crap for sure
[2025-10-16T19:54:43Z] <midfavila> lady only wants twenty bucks for it
[2025-10-16T19:55:14Z] <kris_> what is a tanker
[2025-10-16T19:55:14Z] <midfavila> those massive all-steel desks from the fifties
[2025-10-16T19:55:26Z] <midfavila> i am TIRED of buying PAPER FURNITURE
[2025-10-16T19:55:45Z] <kris_> i have a glass desk because it was the cheapest way to get something that wont just fall apart
[2025-10-16T19:55:50Z] * midfavila cringes
[2025-10-16T19:55:52Z] <kris_> as opposed to like, particle board
[2025-10-16T19:55:53Z] <midfavila> god i could never
[2025-10-16T19:55:58Z] <midfavila> oh my god glass desks are cursed
[2025-10-16T19:55:59Z] <kris_> its actually been a good thing 
[2025-10-16T19:56:10Z] <kris_> i used to have a really bad habit of beating the shit out of my desk when i get angy at cs
[2025-10-16T19:56:11Z] <midfavila> yeah until you have to clamp things onto it
[2025-10-16T19:56:18Z] <midfavila> lmfao
[2025-10-16T19:56:20Z] <midfavila> angy
[2025-10-16T19:56:22Z] <midfavila> :3c
[2025-10-16T19:56:22Z] <kris_> but i cant do that now because i'll literally shatter it
[2025-10-16T19:56:39Z] <kris_> and its been an interesting exercise in temper control
[2025-10-16T19:56:50Z] <midfavila> if you tried doing it to a tanker you'd break your hand
[2025-10-16T19:56:58Z] <kris_> on my old desk i did fracture my hand
[2025-10-16T19:57:10Z] <midfavila> have you considered not fracturing your hand
[2025-10-16T19:57:17Z] <midfavila> you need those generally speaking
[2025-10-16T19:57:20Z] <kris_> this was years ago
[2025-10-16T19:57:26Z] <midfavila> go back in time
[2025-10-16T19:57:39Z] <kris_> yeah no worries
[2025-10-16T19:57:51Z] <kris_> mfw i cant even spawn back in on WoW because there's some loser camping my corpse
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] <midfavila> SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] <kris_> but i have to fight for the horde 
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] * midfavila smashes the table
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] <midfavila> *bangbangbangbangbang*
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] <midfavila> STOP CAMPING AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] <kris_> i had this one teammate on counterstrike
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] <kris_> he was on my actual like team team that i played in tournaments with
[2025-10-16T19:58:57Z] <kris_> mid tournament match he got so angry within like 10 minutes that he literally flipped his desk
[2025-10-16T19:58:58Z] <kris_> and he had to leave because he just destroyed his whole seutp
[2025-10-16T19:58:58Z] <midfavila> what cs does to a mfer
[2025-10-16T19:58:58Z] <kris_> we lost the game because it was 4v5 due to that
[2025-10-16T19:58:59Z] <kris_> i havent spoken to that guy since ngl
[2025-10-16T19:59:16Z] <midfavila> prolly for the best lol
[2025-10-16T19:59:23Z] <midfavila> sounds like a character
[2025-10-16T19:59:39Z] <kris_> pretty run of the mill for cs
[2025-10-16T19:59:48Z] <kris_> thats the first time ive seen someone actively flip their desk but that level of anger isn't unusual
[2025-10-16T20:00:23Z] <midfavila> yeah that's why i don't play cs
[2025-10-16T20:00:33Z] <kris_> this guy camping my corpse really needs to go outside though
[2025-10-16T20:00:36Z] <midfavila> my partner plays cs a lot and wants me to play with them as a ~bonding activity~ which is cute
[2025-10-16T20:00:38Z] <midfavila> but also i bruise easily
[2025-10-16T20:00:42Z] <kris_> my two options: keep trying to beat him
[2025-10-16T20:00:42Z] <midfavila> and i would cry
[2025-10-16T20:00:45Z] <kris_> OR log off
[2025-10-16T20:00:47Z] <kris_> because i can't play
[2025-10-16T20:00:59Z] <kris_> midfavila: most people aren't that bad
[2025-10-16T20:01:22Z] <kris_> if you play competitive instead of premier people wont be that crazy
[2025-10-16T20:01:22Z] <midfavila> you need to understand that i will literally bawl seeing mean comments on the internet
[2025-10-16T20:01:22Z] <kris_> if you play premier you need thick skin and you have to take it life or death serious
[2025-10-16T20:01:22Z] <midfavila> i am very bad at this
[2025-10-16T20:01:36Z] <kris_> exposure numbs
[2025-10-16T20:01:43Z] <midfavila> not for me lmao
[2025-10-16T20:01:48Z] <midfavila> i grew up on an army base
[2025-10-16T20:01:50Z] <kris_> fair enough im not gonna judge
[2025-10-16T20:01:59Z] <midfavila> it doesnt numb it just sucks
[2025-10-16T20:02:09Z] <kris_> i dont even really play cs anymore so im not going to really encourage someone else does
[2025-10-16T20:02:18Z] <midfavila> woa
[2025-10-16T20:02:20Z] <kris_> for the past few months ive moved to other games
[2025-10-16T20:02:21Z] <midfavila> you're in rehab
[2025-10-16T20:02:25Z] <midfavila> proud of you
[2025-10-16T20:02:32Z] <midfavila> :3
[2025-10-16T20:03:08Z] <kris_> yeah iw4x sucked me in
[2025-10-16T20:03:08Z] <kris_> hitting dem quickscopes and then somehow ended up being staff for the project and i have no idea how
[2025-10-16T20:03:08Z] <kris_> i guess people who are willing to contribute code are just that rare
[2025-10-16T20:04:00Z] <kris_> iw4x is the only non toxic call of duty project though, the rest of them are pretty bad
[2025-10-16T20:04:28Z] <midfavila> every time i've played cod it's sucked ass
[2025-10-16T20:04:31Z] <midfavila> it's not even a good game
[2025-10-16T20:04:40Z] <midfavila> boring game and shitty community
[2025-10-16T20:04:58Z] <midfavila> i played a lot of ghost recon though
[2025-10-16T20:05:02Z] <midfavila> that game was awesome
[2025-10-16T20:06:35Z] <kris_> usually im not into cod
[2025-10-16T20:06:47Z] <kris_> not too much anyway
[2025-10-16T20:06:55Z] <kris_> ive never played ghost recon
[2025-10-16T20:08:15Z] <midfavila> i just liked customising weapons
[2025-10-16T20:08:44Z] <kris_> once i hit max level and run a bunch of raids im gonna get into ranked WoW pvp probably
[2025-10-16T20:09:14Z] <sewn> hi guys I punctured my tire
[2025-10-16T20:09:17Z] <kris_> something in me doesn't let games be truly fun unless its ranked
[2025-10-16T20:09:23Z] <sewn> gonna repair the damages fully tommorow
[2025-10-16T20:09:29Z] <sewn> too silly
[2025-10-16T20:09:29Z] <kris_> how did you puncture your tire
[2025-10-16T20:09:34Z] <sewn> :3
[2025-10-16T20:09:42Z] <sewn> miao
[2025-10-16T20:09:47Z] <kris_> you hit a curb didnt you
[2025-10-16T20:10:02Z] <sewn> no I'm not stupid
[2025-10-16T20:10:06Z] <midfavila> okay that's it i'm replacing your car with a vespa
[2025-10-16T20:10:22Z] <kris_> you guys have no idea how good it feels to have a bouncer that works 
[2025-10-16T20:10:57Z] <kris_> after having one that just quite literally doesn't *at all* for months
[2025-10-16T20:10:58Z] <sewn> uhuh
[2025-10-16T20:10:58Z] <sewn> soju is good aint it
[2025-10-16T20:11:07Z] <kris_> soju is the one that wasnt working and is also the one that now is
[2025-10-16T20:11:07Z] <sewn> midfavila: I'm all for it
[2025-10-16T20:11:15Z] <sewn> blh
[2025-10-16T20:11:17Z] <kris_> i just moved it into my house and am now using the normal on-disk database instead of the memory one
[2025-10-16T20:11:40Z] <midfavila> mongo d bouncer
[2025-10-16T20:11:41Z] <kris_> the old setup worked for a long time and just randomly broke
[2025-10-16T20:11:44Z] <kris_> as per usual with bouncers
[2025-10-16T20:15:31Z] <kris_> midfavila: do you play any games at all
[2025-10-16T20:16:33Z] <midfavila> mostly singleplayer roguelikes
[2025-10-16T20:16:35Z] <midfavila> i like warframe
[2025-10-16T20:16:39Z] <midfavila> i started playing it again recently
[2025-10-16T20:17:03Z] <midfavila> i used to play MUDs a lot when i relied on dialup
[2025-10-16T20:17:03Z] <midfavila> less so now
[2025-10-16T20:17:10Z] <kris_> can you tell me about some MUDs
[2025-10-16T20:17:19Z] <kris_> ive been planning out an interesting project and that's related
[2025-10-16T20:17:48Z] <midfavila> cleft of dimensions is fun but it has serious balance issues due to the engine's design
[2025-10-16T20:17:54Z] <midfavila> it's basically video games the game
[2025-10-16T20:17:56Z] <midfavila> = w=;
[2025-10-16T20:18:00Z] <kris_> also ive never played warframe, i know a ton of people who are obsessed with it
[2025-10-16T20:18:06Z] <midfavila> there's also uhhhhhhhhh end of time which is much more focused
[2025-10-16T20:18:52Z] <midfavila> end of time is more focused on like... final fantasy, chrono trigger, etcetera as influences.
[2025-10-16T20:18:52Z] <midfavila> it's got better balance but character progression is a bit fucked
[2025-10-16T20:18:52Z] <kris_> i'll have to look into that one then
[2025-10-16T20:18:52Z] <midfavila> its mechanics are really cool though.
[2025-10-16T20:18:53Z] <kris_> ive only played ffxiv out of the final fantasy games
[2025-10-16T20:18:57Z] <kris_> i played a spinoff on my ps1 back in the day called the legend of dragoon
[2025-10-16T20:19:09Z] <midfavila> i don't play the modern final fantasy games
[2025-10-16T20:19:12Z] <midfavila> i kind of hate them
[2025-10-16T20:19:14Z] <kris_> ffxiv is the MMO
[2025-10-16T20:19:17Z] <kris_> its not really a ff game
[2025-10-16T20:19:20Z] <midfavila> yeah 
[2025-10-16T20:19:21Z] <midfavila> i kno
[2025-10-16T20:19:21Z] <midfavila> w
[2025-10-16T20:19:25Z] <kris_> idk it didnt stick
[2025-10-16T20:19:35Z] <midfavila> it's just wow with a ff skin on it
[2025-10-16T20:19:37Z] <kris_> one of my friends is super into it and she was calling it a "real game" as opposed to the things i play
[2025-10-16T20:19:44Z] <kris_> so i tried to get into it
[2025-10-16T20:19:45Z] <kris_> not a fna
[2025-10-16T20:19:47Z] <midfavila> i prefer the older games. everything pre-9
[2025-10-16T20:19:50Z] <kris_> fan*
[2025-10-16T20:20:24Z] <kris_> and idk if its really >wow with a ff skin on it
[2025-10-16T20:20:24Z] <midfavila> 9 is good it's just not for me
[2025-10-16T20:20:24Z] <kris_> they're similar but it's just not even remotely as good as WoW
[2025-10-16T20:20:24Z] <midfavila> but 10 onward is just weird
[2025-10-16T20:20:24Z] <kris_> it's FAR off
[2025-10-16T20:20:24Z] <midfavila> i'm a fan of final fantasy tactics
[2025-10-16T20:20:26Z] <midfavila> but only the original. the sequels are weird.
[2025-10-16T20:20:39Z] <kris_> and i refuse to pay a subscription fee for a game so i dont play ffxiv based on that alone really
[2025-10-16T20:20:46Z] <kris_> but it is kinda cool that they give you like 2k hours worth of content for free
[2025-10-16T20:20:48Z] <midfavila> vagrant story is a tactics spin-off that's more of an action-puzzle-platformer
[2025-10-16T20:21:01Z] <midfavila> it's also very cool
[2025-10-16T20:21:09Z] <midfavila> you get to build your own weapons and combos
[2025-10-16T20:21:38Z] <midfavila> but yeah in terms of modern games that are big names i really only play warframe
[2025-10-16T20:21:40Z] <midfavila> i've played since it left closed beta
[2025-10-16T20:21:42Z] <midfavila> on and off
[2025-10-16T20:21:44Z] <kris_> i dont really do modern games they're all slop
[2025-10-16T20:21:51Z] <midfavila> warframe is hit or miss
[2025-10-16T20:21:54Z] <kris_> the WoW build i'm playing on is from 2012, the cod i play is from 2009
[2025-10-16T20:22:12Z] <midfavila> the original story was pretty cool but once warframe started to slow down the devs threw everything at the wall
[2025-10-16T20:22:32Z] <midfavila> so there's a million side plots and subfactions and side modes that are all kind of just there
[2025-10-16T20:23:11Z] <midfavila> also the enemies scale exponentially in strength
[2025-10-16T20:23:30Z] <kris_> as they should
[2025-10-16T20:23:31Z] <midfavila> so by the time you start fighting mooks that are level 100 you feel like a mook yourself unless you have meta strats
[2025-10-16T20:23:39Z] <midfavila> no, they shouldn't 
[2025-10-16T20:23:46Z] <kris_> i think the only good game ive played that's semi-modern is elden ring
[2025-10-16T20:23:49Z] <midfavila> they should scale linearly considering warframe is basically a horde shooter
[2025-10-16T20:24:07Z] <midfavila> it's pretty normal to fight hundreds of enemies over the course of a mission
[2025-10-16T20:24:15Z] <kris_> but i play elden ring with a co-op mod so i can play the whole thing with a friend and it makes the enemies like 3x harder
[2025-10-16T20:24:19Z] <midfavila> also
[2025-10-16T20:24:25Z] <midfavila> how tf is elden ring only semi modern
[2025-10-16T20:24:28Z] <midfavila> that's silly
[2025-10-16T20:24:30Z] <midfavila> you're being silly
[2025-10-16T20:24:33Z] <midfavila> elden ring is modern
[2025-10-16T20:24:49Z] <kris_> oh it came out in 2024
[2025-10-16T20:24:56Z] <kris_> for some reason i thought it came out in like 2022
[2025-10-16T20:25:02Z] <midfavila> even if it had it would still be modern
[2025-10-16T20:25:05Z] <midfavila> >more than a year old
[2025-10-16T20:25:07Z] <midfavila> >"retro"
[2025-10-16T20:25:11Z] <kris_> im not calling it retro
[2025-10-16T20:25:14Z] <kris_> im just also not calling it current
[2025-10-16T20:25:20Z] <midfavila> it literally is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[2025-10-16T20:25:28Z] <midfavila> stop being a cultural updooter
[2025-10-16T20:25:29Z] <midfavila> >:C
[2025-10-16T20:25:31Z] <kris_> it hurts my soul that the ps3 is considered a retro console
[2025-10-16T20:25:37Z] <kris_> so i get you
[2025-10-16T20:25:57Z] <midfavila> it hurts my soul that the 900 and 1000 series nvidia cards are "old"
[2025-10-16T20:26:03Z] <midfavila> and "bad"
[2025-10-16T20:26:04Z] <kris_> they literally are
[2025-10-16T20:26:06Z] <kris_> they literally are
[2025-10-16T20:26:10Z] <midfavila> they literally are not
[2025-10-16T20:26:32Z] <midfavila> unless you're playing super slop fighter XD edition on ultra-high settings in VR at 244fps
[2025-10-16T20:26:39Z] <midfavila> or whatever
[2025-10-16T20:26:47Z] <midfavila> they're more than adequate for most regular games.
[2025-10-16T20:26:56Z] <kris_> really really depends on which
[2025-10-16T20:27:02Z] <kris_> the 1080ti is still somewhat usable
[2025-10-16T20:27:08Z] <kris_> i gave my 1070 to a friend
[2025-10-16T20:27:10Z] <kris_> years ago
[2025-10-16T20:27:22Z] <midfavila> what tf are you doing where a 1080ti is only "somewhat" usable
[2025-10-16T20:27:26Z] <midfavila> it's *very* usable
[2025-10-16T20:27:32Z] <kris_> brother was rocking a 9800gt or whatever and literally just couldn't run modern games due to lack of support for modern APIs
[2025-10-16T20:27:38Z] <midfavila> my machine at home has like a 960 or 970 or whatever and it's pretty decent
[2025-10-16T20:27:41Z] <kris_> so i just gave him my 1070 because otherwise it was going to just sit in my closet
[2025-10-16T20:28:17Z] <kris_> midfavila: its entertaining how often we have this discussion
[2025-10-16T20:28:25Z] <midfavila> it's incredibly frustrating actually
[2025-10-16T20:28:30Z] <kris_> but *at the moment* i'm at a place with my hardware where i feel like i don't really need to upgrade
[2025-10-16T20:28:40Z] <midfavila> considering the hardware arms race prices people out of what used to be an affordable hobby
[2025-10-16T20:28:51Z] <kris_> i get it
[2025-10-16T20:29:04Z] <midfavila> something something declining wages but also people screeching about how they NEED a 4090 founders edition as the entry level is insane
[2025-10-16T20:29:06Z] <kris_> i just want my games to run at 240fps 1440p
[2025-10-16T20:29:15Z] <midfavila> i'm not spending half a year of rent on a graphics card to play slop
[2025-10-16T20:29:18Z] <midfavila> that's insane
[2025-10-16T20:29:33Z] <kris_> i only upgraded from my 6700xt because my friend gave me his old 6900xt against my will
[2025-10-16T20:30:20Z] <midfavila> oh sorry
[2025-10-16T20:30:24Z] <midfavila> it's not half a year of rent
[2025-10-16T20:30:27Z] <midfavila> it's almost an entire year of rent
[2025-10-16T20:30:30Z] <kris_> im a tad pissed off by how much i spent on my 6700xt
[2025-10-16T20:30:41Z] <kris_> it was during the covid mining craze and i couldnt stand using that piece of shit 1070 anymore
[2025-10-16T20:30:46Z] <kris_> so i paid $900 for it from a scalper on ebay
[2025-10-16T20:30:49Z] <kris_> >prices drop like 3 months later
[2025-10-16T20:31:05Z] <midfavila> i'm just going to use a k1200 or whatever
[2025-10-16T20:31:12Z] <midfavila> maxwell 1 series single-slot gpu with quad DP
[2025-10-16T20:31:13Z] <midfavila> it's fine
[2025-10-16T20:31:20Z] <kris_> idk 6700xts are like 200 usd now used
[2025-10-16T20:31:30Z] <midfavila> like 20 bucks cad on ebay and it doesn't need anything other than nouveau 
[2025-10-16T20:31:56Z] <kris_> i think the mistake people make is buying the bleeding edge generation and then complain about it being expensive
[2025-10-16T20:32:10Z] <kris_> 6000 series amd gpus are very affordable
[2025-10-16T20:32:12Z] <midfavila> you realise that everything is built assuming people have crazy ass hardware right
[2025-10-16T20:32:16Z] <kris_> 7000 series amd gpus are ewaste
[2025-10-16T20:32:17Z] <midfavila> that's literally what i'm fucking on about
[2025-10-16T20:32:22Z] <kris_> trust me im well aware
[2025-10-16T20:32:30Z] <midfavila> nobody has the goddamn money for this shit any more
[2025-10-16T20:32:33Z] <kris_> i struggle to run certain modern games with my 6900xt
[2025-10-16T20:32:37Z] <kris_> which is irrational
[2025-10-16T20:32:46Z] <midfavila> except for like rich kids living with their parents or people with ultra cushy jbos
[2025-10-16T20:32:50Z] <midfavila> jobs
[2025-10-16T20:32:58Z] <kris_> guy who gave me the 6900xt upgraded to a 5090
[2025-10-16T20:33:14Z] <midfavila> and it's fucking frustrating because you should be able to play a bingbing or two if you're a regular fucking peasant
[2025-10-16T20:33:19Z] <midfavila> jfc
[2025-10-16T20:33:23Z] <midfavila> i hate video games
[2025-10-16T20:33:26Z] <kris_> for the most part you can
[2025-10-16T20:33:39Z] <midfavila> yeah let me go spend FIVE HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS on a graphics card
[2025-10-16T20:33:41Z] <kris_> my old 6700xt was getting ~40fps in silent hill 2 remake at low->medium settings 1440p
[2025-10-16T20:33:48Z] <kris_> which something tells me you'd consider running very well
[2025-10-16T20:33:51Z] <kris_> and those are like 200 usd
[2025-10-16T20:34:07Z] <midfavila> 60fps 1080 on medium is fine.
[2025-10-16T20:34:21Z] <kris_> 6900xt only gets like 70fps on medium 1440p on that game
[2025-10-16T20:34:21Z] <midfavila> significantly less than that is not.
[2025-10-16T20:34:26Z] <midfavila> god
[2025-10-16T20:34:26Z] <kris_> that game is just a gpu crusher
[2025-10-16T20:34:27Z] <midfavila> you know what
[2025-10-16T20:34:30Z] <midfavila> i don't want to talk about this
[2025-10-16T20:34:36Z] <midfavila> i'm already having a shit day and this is making it worse
[2025-10-16T20:34:40Z] <midfavila> i'm going to go touch grass
[2025-10-16T20:34:59Z] <kris_> hf