[2025-10-18T01:25:55Z] <dery> why the  f u c c  is my server's NIC negotiating 100 mbits
[2025-10-18T01:26:11Z] <dery> I'm unplugging and replugging everything
[2025-10-18T01:26:14Z] <dery> no dice
[2025-10-18T01:26:59Z] <dery> wahoo
[2025-10-18T01:27:08Z] <phinxy> 100 mbits ought to be enough for everyone
[2025-10-18T01:27:26Z] <dery> yea try archiving every single available version of celeste from itch.io in a zpaq file
[2025-10-18T01:27:58Z] <dery> I had that and it was like, 1 GB which is crazy considering that the source data is _a lot_ more than that (each version is ~800mb, times three for the platform permutations)
[2025-10-18T01:28:11Z] <dery> but I lost it with the zfs moment + bad backup :D
[2025-10-18T01:28:19Z] <dery> I'm an awesome sysadming :DDDDDDDDDDd
[2025-10-18T01:28:54Z] <dery> I mean my setup is kinda crazy, I got an *outdoor* extension around my window so that I can have my server in the corner of my room
[2025-10-18T01:29:26Z] <dery> and so I have like, the ethernet socket going into a switch, going into a socket, which in turn goes through another socket to the server
[2025-10-18T01:29:38Z] <dery> so I have like, 6 connections :'D
[2025-10-18T01:29:48Z] <dery> patches baby!
[2025-10-18T01:34:23Z] <phinxy> Better than IP over Avian Carriers (IPoAC) 
[2025-10-18T01:35:35Z] <dery> lmao
[2025-10-18T01:35:36Z] <dery> indeed
[2025-10-18T01:45:06Z] <midfavila> dery: do your rooms share an electrical circuit
[2025-10-18T01:45:14Z] <midfavila> you can transmit ethernet connections over mains wires
[2025-10-18T01:45:22Z] <midfavila> don't ask how i know this
[2025-10-18T01:50:07Z] <dery> yea powerline
[2025-10-18T01:50:09Z] <dery> know aout that midfavila 
[2025-10-18T01:50:16Z] <dery> isn't that kinda unreliable though?
[2025-10-18T01:50:21Z] <midfavila> it was great for me
[2025-10-18T01:50:26Z] <dery> what about transfer speeds?
[2025-10-18T01:50:27Z] <midfavila> it might depend on how well your mains grid is isolated
[2025-10-18T01:50:43Z] <dery> also consider that our electrical circuit is like, cursed
[2025-10-18T01:50:45Z] <midfavila> i've seen people get 1Gb plus
[2025-10-18T01:50:46Z] <midfavila> oh
[2025-10-18T01:50:47Z] <dery> lots of weird stuff
[2025-10-18T01:50:49Z] <dery> lol
[2025-10-18T01:50:53Z] <midfavila> if your mains grid is fucked it might be less than ideal then
[2025-10-18T01:51:23Z] <midfavila> apparently tp-link has a 2Gbps powerline 
[2025-10-18T01:51:32Z] <dery> i don't think it's the grid itself, outside of all the funky stuff at summer
[2025-10-18T01:51:39Z] <dery> like, additionally, the wiring is messed up
[2025-10-18T01:51:47Z] <dery> nice though
[2025-10-18T01:52:09Z] <dery> might be a nice way to hook up APs
[2025-10-18T01:52:18Z] <midfavila> i feel like if i got a house i would have an aneurysm with how fucked domestic construction is 
[2025-10-18T01:52:21Z] <midfavila> especially in NA
[2025-10-18T01:52:34Z] <midfavila> everything is plastic and paper and done *terribly*
[2025-10-18T01:52:47Z] <dery> I mean we've got bricks and stuff here but like
[2025-10-18T01:52:50Z] <midfavila> i want mfing *brick* and *lino* and *brass* pipes
[2025-10-18T01:52:55Z] <midfavila> none of this paper and plastic BULLSHIT
[2025-10-18T01:53:16Z] <dery> the electrical circuit is just messed up here cause it has been touched a lot and if it works don't touch it you know
[2025-10-18T01:53:33Z] <midfavila> that's the same reason my apartment is on the same circuit as three others
[2025-10-18T01:53:34Z] <midfavila> lmfao
[2025-10-18T01:53:37Z] <dery> :sob:
[2025-10-18T01:53:42Z] <midfavila> it's so fucked
[2025-10-18T01:53:56Z] <dery> hey look at the bright side
[2025-10-18T01:53:59Z] <midfavila> this building is pre-electrification so all the wiring is running through pipes
[2025-10-18T01:54:03Z] <dery> inter-room LAN!1!!
[2025-10-18T01:54:13Z] <midfavila> groc
[2025-10-18T01:54:13Z] <midfavila> e
[2025-10-18T01:54:25Z] <dery> now you can send stuff at blazing speed to your neighbours
[2025-10-18T01:54:27Z] <midfavila> also i'm not sharing my 5Mbps connection
[2025-10-18T01:54:33Z] <dery> yea but like
[2025-10-18T01:54:35Z] <dery> data pipe
[2025-10-18T01:54:39Z] <midfavila> woa
[2025-10-18T01:54:45Z] <dery> "hi can you send me your homework folder"
[2025-10-18T01:54:46Z] <midfavila> the internet was a series of tubes this whole time
[2025-10-18T01:54:47Z] <dery> "yea sure"
[2025-10-18T01:54:52Z] <dery> 2Gbit blazing speed
[2025-10-18T01:54:52Z] <midfavila> series of pipes
[2025-10-18T01:54:55Z] <dery> literally lmao
[2025-10-18T01:55:11Z] <midfavila> THE INTERNET IS-THE INTERNET ISN'T A BIG TRUCK
[2025-10-18T01:55:11Z] <dery> time to watch them legally obtained dumps together
[2025-10-18T01:55:20Z] <dery> on the mark (mark) get set
[2025-10-18T01:55:24Z] <dery> we're riding on the internet
[2025-10-18T01:55:24Z] <midfavila> tbf playing doom over mains power would be novel
[2025-10-18T01:55:42Z] <dery> I'm sorry to ruin the fun but definitely not
[2025-10-18T01:55:52Z] <dery> doom multiplayer has ben run on everything at this point I'm sure
[2025-10-18T01:56:04Z] <midfavila> novel for me
[2025-10-18T01:56:08Z] <midfavila> dork
[2025-10-18T01:56:09Z] <dery> oh yea that would be cool
[2025-10-18T01:56:10Z] <dery> :(
[2025-10-18T01:56:17Z] <midfavila> just because it's not on a pregnancy test or w/e doesn't mean it's not cool
[2025-10-18T01:56:18Z] <midfavila> >:c
[2025-10-18T01:56:53Z] <midfavila> oh also the company i work for is buying a bunch of stuff from italy
[2025-10-18T01:56:56Z] <midfavila> so that's cool
[2025-10-18T01:57:03Z] <midfavila> not super relevant i just wanted to let you know
[2025-10-18T01:57:43Z] <dery> oh I'm not talking about the pregnancy test thing
[2025-10-18T01:57:46Z] <dery> which btw did not run on it
[2025-10-18T01:57:50Z] <dery> it was just the display :(
[2025-10-18T01:58:06Z] <dery> nice, what kinda stuff is it if I may ask?
[2025-10-18T01:58:14Z] <dery> like, tech stuff?
[2025-10-18T01:58:25Z] <midfavila> nah
[2025-10-18T01:58:26Z] <midfavila> power tools
[2025-10-18T01:58:30Z] <dery> ohh nice
[2025-10-18T01:58:42Z] <midfavila> made in the ~mountains of italy~
[2025-10-18T01:58:46Z] <midfavila> so fuckin EXOTIC
[2025-10-18T01:58:51Z] <midfavila> wowowowowow
[2025-10-18T01:58:53Z] <dery> What brand is that? I'm not entirely sure I'm aware of
[2025-10-18T01:59:05Z] <midfavila> not going to say because that info is going to dox me lmao
[2025-10-18T01:59:08Z] <dery> oof
[2025-10-18T01:59:09Z] <dery> fair
[2025-10-18T01:59:18Z] <dery> uuh I'll look up "italian power tools brand"
[2025-10-18T01:59:22Z] <dery> inb4 there's like only one
[2025-10-18T01:59:23Z] * midfavila flicks dery's nose
[2025-10-18T01:59:29Z] <dery> what does that mean
[2025-10-18T01:59:30Z] <dery> should I not
[2025-10-18T03:13:36Z] <kris_> dery: powerline is absolutely horrible
[2025-10-18T03:13:45Z] <kris_> if you have coax by chance just use moca
[2025-10-18T03:13:57Z] <dery> I think we have but like
[2025-10-18T03:13:59Z] <dery> we're using it
[2025-10-18T03:14:08Z] <dery> for dish tv or whatever
[2025-10-18T03:14:10Z] <kris_> depending on how lossy it already is you may be able to just chuck a splitter 
[2025-10-18T03:14:12Z] <kris_> onto the line
[2025-10-18T03:14:49Z] <kris_> back when i couldnt run ethernet i used a raspberry pi as a scuffed diy network card
[2025-10-18T03:14:52Z] <dery> I assume it does not conflict with TV data?
[2025-10-18T03:15:00Z] <kris_> routed from wifi to ethernet and just plugged it into the ethernet port on my desktop
[2025-10-18T03:15:03Z] <kris_> worked well enough
[2025-10-18T03:15:31Z] <kris_> dery: you'll honestly have to play with it, it depends- i run both tv and my internet over the same coax lines
[2025-10-18T03:15:39Z] <dery> at what speed?
[2025-10-18T03:15:45Z] <kris_> 1000 down 400mbps up
[2025-10-18T03:15:49Z] <dery> nicee
[2025-10-18T03:15:55Z] <dery> why asymetric though?
[2025-10-18T03:15:58Z] <dery> half-duplex?
[2025-10-18T03:16:08Z] <kris_> this is just what my isp offers
[2025-10-18T03:16:18Z] <kris_> id say 95% of americans don't have symmetric speeds
[2025-10-18T03:17:12Z] <dery> oh I'm talking like
[2025-10-18T03:17:13Z] <dery> local speeds
[2025-10-18T03:17:21Z] <dery> we too have asimmetric speeds here
[2025-10-18T03:17:37Z] <kris_> oh like lan transfer? gigabit because i don't have a 2.5gbe switch but all of my network cards are 2.5g or higher
[2025-10-18T03:18:41Z] <dery> yea that's what I'm using 100+ mbits transfers basically
[2025-10-18T03:18:58Z] <dery> until we manage to figure out our cabling and get hooked up
[2025-10-18T03:19:07Z] <kris_> i dont think ill bother with >gig LAN for the forseeable future
[2025-10-18T03:19:17Z] <dery> yea fair
[2025-10-18T03:19:21Z] <kris_> given i still run my local server on mechanical drives
[2025-10-18T03:19:25Z] <dery> gig lan is plenty fast
[2025-10-18T03:19:44Z] <kris_> cheap too
[2025-10-18T03:19:51Z] <kris_> though 10 gig is cheap as well except for the switches
[2025-10-18T03:19:55Z] <dery> also, kinda surprised at how little it is considered for point to point transfers
[2025-10-18T03:20:01Z] <kris_> i have a 10 gig dual port nic in my router, intel x540-t2
[2025-10-18T03:20:04Z] <kris_> was $20 on ebay
[2025-10-18T03:20:06Z] <dery> like bruh, you have two laptops, wanna transfer stuff, just plug em in
[2025-10-18T03:20:24Z] <dery> literally point to point, assign two random IPs and it just works
[2025-10-18T03:20:43Z] <kris_> usually i just plug whatever im transferring data to or from into my switch
[2025-10-18T03:20:51Z] <kris_> i dont do wireless transfers
[2025-10-18T03:21:04Z] <kris_> honestly i really dont like wifi at all
[2025-10-18T03:21:17Z] <dery> yea it's a mess
[2025-10-18T03:21:18Z] <dery> although, tbf
[2025-10-18T03:21:23Z] <dery> my laptop came with wifi 6 or something
[2025-10-18T03:21:25Z] <dery> damn is it fast
[2025-10-18T03:21:34Z] <kris_> yeah it can be impressive 
[2025-10-18T03:21:41Z] <kris_> until you start doing a file copy over sftp for some reason
[2025-10-18T03:21:42Z] <dery> did not benchmark it but like, it used the full 140 mbits of my isp
[2025-10-18T03:21:54Z] <kris_> i can pull 700mbps with the ax200 in my laptop
[2025-10-18T03:22:00Z] <kris_> but only if im like right next to my access point
[2025-10-18T03:22:05Z] <kris_> if im downstairs its more like 450
[2025-10-18T03:22:32Z] <kris_> idk why i even have gigabit internet honestly i was completely fine having 200
[2025-10-18T03:22:39Z] <kris_> my family just randomly chose to upgrade it
[2025-10-18T03:22:54Z] <dery> honestly I can't wait to get FTTH just for the ipv6
[2025-10-18T03:23:04Z] <dery> although I heard that there might be a cgnat :(
[2025-10-18T03:23:19Z] <kris_> FTTH?
[2025-10-18T03:23:22Z] <dery> but I don't care I'm fine with that lemme just finally get real point-to-point again
[2025-10-18T03:23:24Z] <dery> fiber-to-the-home
[2025-10-18T03:23:25Z] <kris_> also cgnat isnt like, the end of the world
[2025-10-18T03:23:34Z] <dery> like, direct fiber connections
[2025-10-18T03:23:36Z] <dery> GPON and stuff
[2025-10-18T03:23:46Z] <kris_> its shit but you can just set up a vpn on a vps and port forward through that if you're trying to expose stuff
[2025-10-18T03:23:53Z] <kris_> or cloudflare tunnels
[2025-10-18T03:24:29Z] <dery> yea
[2025-10-18T03:24:49Z] <dery> that's what the VoIP relays are doing anyways
[2025-10-18T03:38:10Z] <kris_> are you getting direct fiber soon?
[2025-10-18T03:42:34Z] <dery> yea
[2025-10-18T03:42:36Z] <dery> soon-ish
[2025-10-18T03:42:48Z] <dery> it's there we just need to call the ISP but first we need to have a plan lol
[2025-10-18T03:42:55Z] <dery> like literally what to do where
[2025-10-18T03:42:58Z] <dery> our house is complicated
[2025-10-18T03:51:36Z] <kris_> im jealous, a direct fiber line sounds wild
[2025-10-18T03:52:09Z] <dery> wait don't you have gigabit
[2025-10-18T03:52:12Z] <dery> how do you have it
[2025-10-18T03:52:13Z] <dery> cable?
[2025-10-18T03:52:18Z] <kris_> ya cable
[2025-10-18T03:52:31Z] <dery> like, with ffth we'll have gigabit although people from fancier places can get much more
[2025-10-18T03:53:10Z] <kris_> yeah one of my friends in switzerland somehow has 7 gig symmetric
[2025-10-18T03:53:15Z] <kris_> can get more than that too
[2025-10-18T03:55:10Z] <dery> lucky fella
[2025-10-18T03:56:27Z] <kris_> idk what id do with that much bandwidth 
[2025-10-18T03:56:47Z] <kris_> its useless unless you're running like a cloud provider or something
[2025-10-18T03:57:09Z] <dery> I mean
[2025-10-18T03:57:12Z] <dery> aria2c to the rescue
[2025-10-18T03:57:17Z] <dery> just download over a crapton of mirrors
[2025-10-18T03:57:21Z] <dery> instant file transfers lmao
[2025-10-18T03:57:26Z] <dery> need a fast enough ssd though
[2025-10-18T03:58:12Z] <kris_> well nowadays that part is easy
[2025-10-18T03:59:42Z] <dery> also metalink feels incredibly based
[2025-10-18T04:01:25Z] <kris_> metalink?
[2025-10-18T04:02:07Z] <dery> one sec
[2025-10-18T04:02:44Z] <dery> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5854
[2025-10-18T04:02:47Z] <dery> the stuff that aria2c uses
[2025-10-18T04:02:58Z] <dery> it's like a description for a resource with digests, mirrors and everything
[2025-10-18T04:03:04Z] <dery> XML, I know, but it's *something*
[2025-10-18T04:04:42Z] <kris_> TIL
[2025-10-18T04:04:59Z] <kris_> also apparently aria2c can download/seed torrents
[2025-10-18T04:05:03Z] <dery> yea
[2025-10-18T04:05:18Z] <dery> aria2 for some reason feels the most interweb-y I've seen in a while
[2025-10-18T04:05:25Z] <dery> it just screams "information wants to be free"
[2025-10-18T04:05:28Z] <kris_> unexpected feature for me for some reason
[2025-10-18T04:05:40Z] <dery> it is lol
[2025-10-18T04:05:43Z] <dery> casually implemented
[2025-10-18T04:06:00Z] <kris_> idk im still using rtorrent despite it being kinda unstable
[2025-10-18T04:06:06Z] <kris_> havent found anything better
[2025-10-18T04:10:43Z] <dery> uh wget supports metalink too
[2025-10-18T04:17:04Z] <kris_> wild
[2025-10-18T04:17:05Z] <kris_> does curl
[2025-10-18T04:18:12Z] <dery> afraid not
[2025-10-18T04:31:06Z] <kris_> this might just be a me thing but in general i really don't like using curl
[2025-10-18T04:31:19Z] <kris_> i only really use it when im piping an api output into jq
[2025-10-18T04:32:24Z] <dery> I mean it's a swiss knife more than anything specialized IMO
[2025-10-18T04:32:35Z] <dery> aria2 is specialized at downloading and even then it's not that polished unfortunately
[2025-10-18T04:32:42Z] <dery> just found out that the authorization header persists between redirects
[2025-10-18T04:32:44Z] <dery> bad bad idea
[2025-10-18T04:32:49Z] <dery> and actively breaks stuff
[2025-10-18T04:32:52Z] <dery> curl instead thought about that
[2025-10-18T04:32:56Z] <dery> along with cookies
[2025-10-18T04:33:26Z] <kris_> for just regular downloading i rather wget
[2025-10-18T04:33:41Z] <dery> does wget support concurrent downloads
[2025-10-18T04:33:49Z] <dery> like, multiple connections per file and multiple files
[2025-10-18T04:33:57Z] <kris_> i have absolutely no clue
[2025-10-18T04:35:22Z] <dery> that's the killer feature about aria2 for me
[2025-10-18T04:36:00Z] <dery> I mean that's also the killer feature of torrents in general but aria2 for some reason unlocked the blessed HTTP secret headers or something