[2025-10-27T04:11:04Z] <dery> (to be fair I have no idea what's the lore behind the old username, I heard that toby does not want to be called like that anymore but I have no idea if bringing that up is bad, I heard other people meme about that so I think it's just... moving on?)
[2025-10-27T04:12:14Z] <dery> ( welp https://www.reddit.com/r/homestuck/comments/52wwsn/whats_with_dont_call_me_radiation/ )
[2025-10-27T04:25:19Z] <kris_> i completely forgot what deltarune was tbh
[2025-10-27T04:27:34Z] <dery> lmao
[2025-10-27T04:27:36Z] <dery> nw
[2025-10-27T04:51:59Z] <midfavila> kris_ deltarune
[2025-10-27T04:52:00Z] <midfavila> lmao
[2025-10-27T04:55:04Z] <midfavila> also holy shit i don't want to go back to work tomorrow ughhh
[2025-10-27T04:55:16Z] <midfavila> i am so fucking fried
[2025-10-27T04:57:26Z] <midfavila> istg once i have my shit in order i'm just going to be a bum and work part time
[2025-10-27T04:57:51Z] * midfavila dies
[2025-10-27T05:44:47Z] <kris_> i feel you
[2025-10-27T05:44:51Z] <kris_> i dont wanna go to uni tomorrow because uni is stupid
[2025-10-27T05:48:01Z] <midfavila> we can trade
[2025-10-27T05:48:04Z] <midfavila> but also fair
[2025-10-27T05:48:10Z] <kris_> i unironically would
[2025-10-27T05:48:15Z] <kris_> because at this point flip a coin who fuckin cares
[2025-10-27T05:48:29Z] <midfavila> i mean the economy is fucked so yea
[2025-10-27T05:48:56Z] <kris_> i just think the uni system is complete and utter bullshit
[2025-10-27T05:49:11Z] <midfavila> it's basically just a way to gatekeep a decent life 
[2025-10-27T05:49:11Z] <kris_> anyone who says that unis are a safe space for people to express themselves and just be who they are and actually learn are so full of shit its insane
[2025-10-27T05:49:18Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-10-27T05:52:46Z] <midfavila> idk man ig just get your pitchfork or something
[2025-10-27T05:52:59Z] <kris_> idk im feeling it rn
[2025-10-27T05:53:22Z] <midfavila> pitchforkism?
[2025-10-27T05:54:48Z] <kris_> idk if theres a word for it
[2025-10-27T05:55:08Z] <kris_> i move out of my little tiny home village area and come up here to the big city because i was convinced an "actual job" was exactly what i wanted
[2025-10-27T05:55:28Z] <kris_> and the only jobs ive been able to get have been super low tier and just that glimpse into the corporate world made me realize how idiotic i was for selling my soul for this
[2025-10-27T05:55:35Z] <midfavila> yeap
[2025-10-27T05:55:35Z] <kris_> and then i get into uni and it's the same. fucking. thing
[2025-10-27T05:55:37Z] <midfavila> basically
[2025-10-27T05:55:44Z] <midfavila> are you ready to do that for the next 45 years
[2025-10-27T05:55:47Z] <midfavila> at least
[2025-10-27T05:55:57Z] <kris_> man i dont know if im ready to go to uni for 4 years
[2025-10-27T05:56:00Z] <midfavila> get in the wage cage kris
[2025-10-27T05:56:03Z] <kris_> i'm almost done with my first semester and im just like man
[2025-10-27T05:56:06Z] <midfavila> or sewn is gonna have to do it
[2025-10-27T05:56:11Z] <kris_> this place is just attempting to indoctrinate me
[2025-10-27T05:56:19Z] <kris_> you WILL conform
[2025-10-27T05:56:19Z] <midfavila> i mean it's america
[2025-10-27T05:56:38Z] <kris_> yesterday i had a friend from bulgaria send me a bunch of IT job sites over there
[2025-10-27T05:56:46Z] <kris_> i might unironically see if i can get a bulgarian company to sponsor my move
[2025-10-27T05:56:56Z] <kris_> something's just different in eastern europe with this shit
[2025-10-27T05:57:01Z] <kris_> >no certs? who cares
[2025-10-27T05:57:05Z] <kris_> >no uni? who cares
[2025-10-27T05:57:06Z] <midfavila> that's what my bulgarian fren said
[2025-10-27T05:57:07Z] <kris_> >can you do the job or not
[2025-10-27T05:57:20Z] <midfavila> then he was like "man everyone in eastern europe pays like shit i'm going to america"
[2025-10-27T05:57:28Z] <midfavila> and that was in like february and i haven't heard from him since
[2025-10-27T05:57:33Z] <midfavila> so maybe he got ICEd idk
[2025-10-27T05:57:39Z] <kris_> my friend in bg is making decent money working at a PC repair shop
[2025-10-27T05:57:43Z] <kris_> decent for the area*
[2025-10-27T05:57:49Z] <midfavila> god i wish
[2025-10-27T05:57:56Z] <midfavila> unironically the biggest vibe is like
[2025-10-27T05:57:59Z] <kris_> like he just troubleshoots and fixes hardware and gets paid
[2025-10-27T05:58:03Z] <midfavila> just fixing PCs in the back of a shop 
[2025-10-27T05:58:05Z] <kris_> *that* is what an actual job is to me
[2025-10-27T05:58:07Z] <midfavila> or radios or whatever
[2025-10-27T05:58:07Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-10-27T05:58:19Z] <midfavila> when i was a kid that's what i wanted to do and now it's like
[2025-10-27T05:58:38Z] <kris_> fuck your gigascale docker container kubernetes serverless cloudflare infrastructure-as-code bullshit
[2025-10-27T05:58:41Z] <midfavila> "no you just need to install 500gb of shitware on the company laptop that's replacing last year's model. just shred it. nothing wrong with it, just policy."
[2025-10-27T05:58:42Z] <kris_> i swear to god all of these people are fucking larpers
[2025-10-27T05:59:00Z] <kris_> obviously some of them aren't
[2025-10-27T05:59:04Z] <kris_> but in a corporate context its wild
[2025-10-27T05:59:05Z] <midfavila> yeah i spend like two years or something in a telegram chat with a bunch of like
[2025-10-27T05:59:11Z] <midfavila> compsec grifters
[2025-10-27T05:59:21Z] <midfavila> i'm glad i'm past that phase of my life
[2025-10-27T05:59:55Z] <kris_> anyway idk what im gonna do, im not going to quit uni but everyone including myself agrees that i'm making this more difficult than it should be or has been for other people
[2025-10-27T06:00:04Z] <kris_> because of the whole "you will not take my soul" mentality
[2025-10-27T06:00:10Z] <midfavila> i mean i'm the same way
[2025-10-27T06:00:15Z] <kris_> im considering dropping down to a 2 year degree instead of 4
[2025-10-27T06:00:21Z] <kris_> but at that point is it even worth it
[2025-10-27T06:00:28Z] <midfavila> idek if a four year is worth it man
[2025-10-27T06:00:34Z] <midfavila> you know my opinion on education right now
[2025-10-27T06:00:43Z] <kris_> the education is irrelevant
[2025-10-27T06:00:50Z] <kris_> the question is more whether or not it would get me into a good enough job
[2025-10-27T06:00:50Z] <midfavila> if you can study for its own sake go for it but if it's for the papers it's a total scam
[2025-10-27T06:00:53Z] <midfavila> it won't
[2025-10-27T06:00:55Z] <midfavila> lmao
[2025-10-27T06:00:55Z] <kris_> good enough meaning not soul drain
[2025-10-27T06:01:09Z] <kris_> yknow
[2025-10-27T06:01:11Z] <midfavila> the 2010s was the era of lern 2 cood
[2025-10-27T06:01:23Z] <kris_> my grandfather messaged me a few months ago that my home "village" was looking for a town IT guy
[2025-10-27T06:01:27Z] <midfavila> now the tech sector is overgrown and full of larpers and it's not worth trying to compete
[2025-10-27T06:01:28Z] <kris_> and was trying to get me to look into it
[2025-10-27T06:01:35Z] <kris_> i probably should have taken that seriously given nepotism
[2025-10-27T06:01:37Z] <midfavila> do it
[2025-10-27T06:01:39Z] <kris_> and being the IT guy for a very very tiny town 
[2025-10-27T06:01:42Z] <midfavila> even now'
[2025-10-27T06:01:43Z] <midfavila> like
[2025-10-27T06:01:43Z] <midfavila> rn
[2025-10-27T06:01:45Z] <midfavila> go message him
[2025-10-27T06:01:49Z] <kris_> its been like a year and a half
[2025-10-27T06:01:54Z] <midfavila> and be like "hey is there anything like that open now"
[2025-10-27T06:01:55Z] <midfavila> yeah idc man
[2025-10-27T06:01:56Z] <midfavila> do it
[2025-10-27T06:01:58Z] <midfavila> :gun:
[2025-10-27T06:02:07Z] <kris_> tbf i asked for more details and never got more details
[2025-10-27T06:02:11Z] <midfavila> break your knees and then push you out of your wheelchair afterward if you don't do it
[2025-10-27T06:05:49Z] <midfavila> man the worst part is that idek if moving is worth it
[2025-10-27T06:05:59Z] <midfavila> like shit is going down everywhere
[2025-10-27T06:07:24Z] <kris_> not down there, things dont happen there
[2025-10-27T06:07:25Z] <kris_> at all
[2025-10-27T06:07:34Z] <kris_> it's unbelievable how disconnected from society as a whole that place is
[2025-10-27T06:08:21Z] <midfavila> say that to my bulgarian friend
[2025-10-27T06:08:35Z] <midfavila> they've had something like six elections in four years because of how corrupt and fucked up their government is
[2025-10-27T06:08:43Z] <midfavila> and most people who can afford to leave do
[2025-10-27T06:08:52Z] <midfavila> he was in sofia before he left
[2025-10-27T06:09:08Z] <midfavila> i think there's also a factor of like
[2025-10-27T06:09:17Z] <midfavila> reality is dependent on local conditions
[2025-10-27T06:09:28Z] <midfavila> when i was in the maritimes i didn't think that the canadian midwest did much at all
[2025-10-27T06:09:38Z] <midfavila> now that i'm out here, everyone here thinks the same about the maritimes
[2025-10-27T06:09:49Z] <midfavila> when in reality they just have hyperlocal struggles that aren't super big news
[2025-10-27T06:13:02Z] <midfavila> like i said, get your pitchforks out
[2025-10-27T06:14:01Z] <midfavila> nothing's gonna change until then
[2025-10-27T06:14:30Z] <kris_> in other news i have to give some bullshit informative speech in like a week and i have to pick a topic
[2025-10-27T06:15:04Z] <midfavila> topic is why the american education system is bullshit
[2025-10-27T06:15:05Z] <midfavila> go
[2025-10-27T06:15:09Z] * midfavila cracks the whip
[2025-10-27T06:15:20Z] <kris_> they'd say that's more of a persuasive speech
[2025-10-27T06:15:34Z] <midfavila> i would say that all information is persuasive in nature 
[2025-10-27T06:15:52Z] <midfavila> and that to deny one's own biases under the guise of objectivity is intellectually dishonest
[2025-10-27T06:16:00Z] <midfavila> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5trbO39RFY
[2025-10-27T06:16:02Z] <midfavila> kris_: 
[2025-10-27T06:17:59Z] <kris_> first time ive seen this
[2025-10-27T06:18:04Z] <kris_> and honestly you have a point there
[2025-10-27T06:18:28Z] <midfavila> i made that argument a few times against my social studies teacher in high school bc he was a prick 
[2025-10-27T06:18:41Z] <midfavila> i mean he was a good teacher from a methodology standpoint so i appreciate that
[2025-10-27T06:18:45Z] <midfavila> but also he was a prick 
[2025-10-27T06:20:00Z] <kris_> most of my professors are pretty nice
[2025-10-27T06:21:13Z] <kris_> that was a really wise statement mid
[2025-10-27T06:21:22Z] <midfavila> weh?
[2025-10-27T06:21:24Z] * kris_ is gonna rember that one
[2025-10-27T06:21:37Z] <kris_> >and that to deny one's own biases under the guise of objectivity is intellectually dishonest
[2025-10-27T06:21:48Z] <kris_> given the context of "informative" vs "persuasive"
[2025-10-27T06:21:52Z] <midfavila> oh
[2025-10-27T06:21:53Z] <midfavila> fair
[2025-10-27T06:22:14Z] <midfavila> r/im23andthisisdeep
[2025-10-27T06:22:25Z] <kris_> r/i'malso23andthisisdeep
[2025-10-27T06:22:38Z] <midfavila> i was bullying you
[2025-10-27T06:22:40Z] <midfavila> nerdlet
[2025-10-27T06:22:40Z] <kris_> also yeah the song you just sent me is pretty accurate
[2025-10-27T06:22:45Z] <midfavila> yeah i KNOW it is
[2025-10-27T06:22:47Z] <kris_> i unironically learned exactly all of this
[2025-10-27T06:22:51Z] <kris_> i hadnt thought about it though
[2025-10-27T06:22:52Z] <midfavila> there's a reason i HATE america
[2025-10-27T06:22:53Z] <midfavila> >.>
[2025-10-27T06:22:56Z] <midfavila> smd
[2025-10-27T06:22:57Z] <midfavila> h
[2025-10-27T06:23:06Z] <midfavila> canada is just as bad
[2025-10-27T06:23:42Z] <midfavila> well actually idk we teach ww2 somewhat accuratel
[2025-10-27T06:23:43Z] <midfavila> y
[2025-10-27T06:24:00Z] <midfavila> but we also don't cover the residential school system or anything like that
[2025-10-27T06:24:06Z] <midfavila> so mmnmhmnmhmnmhmhmhmnmhmmmhnm
[2025-10-27T06:30:55Z] <Ozymandias42> there's issues everywhere. it's more of a matter of how many and how much they compound
[2025-10-27T06:31:25Z] <midfavila> most are just a result of our economic system.
[2025-10-27T06:31:31Z] <midfavila> it's really that simple.
[2025-10-27T06:32:18Z] <Ozymandias42> ground down to it, yes. but also only yes because the economic system holds so much sway over the policitcal one to which it _should_ be subservient to in an ideal world
[2025-10-27T06:32:34Z] <midfavila> unfortunately we haven't yet achieved global communism.
[2025-10-27T06:32:38Z] <midfavila> soon, inshallah.
[2025-10-27T06:33:08Z] <Ozymandias42> eh. I'd be more in favor of global socialism but potatoes-potatoes 
[2025-10-27T06:33:40Z] <midfavila> socialism is just state capitalism with a dictatorship of the proletariat.
[2025-10-27T06:33:50Z] <midfavila> it's the seed of communism.
[2025-10-27T06:34:36Z] <midfavila> if the state only exists to regulate class struggle between the owning and working class using its monopoly on force, and everyone is part of the same class, there's no need for the state, so it should naturally wither away.
[2025-10-27T06:36:20Z] <Ozymandias42> that's a bit one dimensional a view on the tasks of the state. The state is also organisation and management. Without it providing an overarching framework you run into massive issues after the local scale
[2025-10-27T06:36:34Z] <midfavila> you're conflating the state with government.
[2025-10-27T06:36:45Z] <Ozymandias42> aren't those interchangeable?
[2025-10-27T06:36:47Z] <midfavila> no.
[2025-10-27T06:36:50Z] <midfavila> they are not.
[2025-10-27T06:37:06Z] <midfavila> a state is that entity with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force within a particular set of borders.
[2025-10-27T06:37:17Z] <midfavila> government is responsible for a much broader set of tasks.
[2025-10-27T06:37:23Z] <midfavila> there are also instances of non-government states.
[2025-10-27T06:37:26Z] <midfavila> see: banana republics
[2025-10-27T06:37:30Z] <kris_> Ozymandias42: morning
[2025-10-27T06:37:33Z] <Ozymandias42> huh. TIL
[2025-10-27T06:37:38Z] <kris_> i see you've met our local mid 
[2025-10-27T06:37:40Z] <Ozymandias42> also morning kris_
[2025-10-27T06:37:44Z] <midfavila> or even the hudson's bay company in canada or the indian trading company 
[2025-10-27T06:37:45Z] <midfavila> etc
[2025-10-27T06:38:28Z] <midfavila> you love me kris_ 
[2025-10-27T06:38:32Z] <midfavila> i'm your favourite part of kiss linux
[2025-10-27T06:38:54Z] <kris_> i dont see you in my package list
[2025-10-27T06:39:16Z] <midfavila> download fortunes
[2025-10-27T06:39:19Z] <midfavila> i'm in fortunes
[2025-10-27T06:39:25Z] <kris_> an integral part of the system
[2025-10-27T06:39:37Z] <kris_> some of the void fortunes are great too
[2025-10-27T06:39:38Z] <midfavila> at least 67% of kiss linux is vibes
[2025-10-27T06:39:42Z] <kris_> truw
[2025-10-27T06:39:45Z] <kris_> true
[2025-10-27T06:39:47Z] <midfavila> trvth nvke
[2025-10-27T06:39:56Z] <kris_> okay what the fuck is that
[2025-10-27T06:40:04Z] <kris_> people keep replacing u with v
[2025-10-27T06:40:19Z] <midfavila> oh it's just a tic ig lol
[2025-10-27T06:40:22Z] <midfavila> something something roman empire
[2025-10-27T06:40:24Z] <midfavila> something something latin
[2025-10-27T06:41:39Z] <Ozymandias42> it's because the letter 'u' didn't exist in the time of the roman empire. not that it wasn't used in speech but in lettering it was the same as 'v'
[2025-10-27T06:42:57Z] <kris_> bleh i gotta go to sleep
[2025-10-27T06:43:06Z] <kris_> gotta go to my unpaid wage cage tomorrow
[2025-10-27T06:43:15Z] <kris_> i guess that means its just a normal cage
[2025-10-27T06:44:07Z] <kris_> gn all
[2025-10-27T06:45:48Z] <Ozymandias42> gn kris o/
[2025-10-27T15:30:24Z] <midfavila> woa 
[2025-10-27T15:39:24Z] <kris_> aow
[2025-10-27T16:56:10Z] <sewn> maow
[2025-10-27T20:34:40Z] <kris_> gm sewn 
[2025-10-27T20:35:15Z] <sewn> gn kris_
[2025-10-27T20:36:52Z] <kris_> you go bed?
[2025-10-27T21:21:11Z] <midfavila> crazy how much more efficient webkit is compared to firefox
[2025-10-27T21:21:34Z] <midfavila> saving like a gig of memory and a ton of cycles at idle with the former