[2025-10-30T04:27:06Z] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [2025-10-30T06:34:02Z] bwa [2025-10-30T06:41:10Z] morning [2025-10-30T08:06:20Z] hello asmodeus [2025-10-30T14:37:00Z] gm internet computer frens [2025-10-30T14:37:02Z] <3 [2025-10-30T14:38:24Z] goof morbjng moudfavila [2025-10-30T14:38:25Z] * sewn pats the midfavika [2025-10-30T14:38:25Z] a [2025-10-30T16:17:43Z] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [2025-10-30T16:17:43Z] my bike is totally fucked [2025-10-30T16:17:59Z] the rear rim collapsed and the bike shop i work at hasn't got a replacement... [2025-10-30T18:22:15Z] midfavila: hiiiiii [2025-10-30T18:22:15Z] rip bike [2025-10-30T18:23:53Z] yes rip bikezo [2025-10-30T18:24:00Z] also general strke might happen in alberta [2025-10-30T18:24:04Z] strike even [2025-10-30T18:24:47Z] im waiting to see what happens in the US when everyone loses their food and stuff [2025-10-30T18:24:47Z] morons in government there used the constitution's big shiny do not press except in case of emergency red override button [2025-10-30T18:24:47Z] usually when the population is starving something starts happening [2025-10-30T18:25:00Z] which is like, supposed to be for life or death the-country-might-fall situations [2025-10-30T18:25:05Z] in order to break a teacher's strike [2025-10-30T18:25:06Z] what [2025-10-30T18:25:09Z] yeah [2025-10-30T18:25:10Z] wtf happened [2025-10-30T18:25:12Z] wait [2025-10-30T18:25:15Z] elaborate on red button [2025-10-30T18:25:17Z] so [2025-10-30T18:25:21Z] canada has a constitution [2025-10-30T18:25:26Z] it was ratified in 1982 when we left the empire [2025-10-30T18:25:40Z] but it had to be agreed upon by all of the provinces in confedertaion [2025-10-30T18:25:43Z] confederation [2025-10-30T18:26:20Z] and alberta refused to sign because WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WESTERN ALIENATION [2025-10-30T18:26:20Z] which is its own side thing [2025-10-30T18:26:20Z] so the fed was like "come on do it" [2025-10-30T18:26:20Z] and everyone else was like "come on do it" [2025-10-30T18:26:24Z] and the queen was like "come on man just sign the fucking paper" [2025-10-30T18:26:41Z] and alberta was like "NUH UH NOT UNLESS I GET A CARD THAT SAYS I'M SPECIAL AND DON'T NEED TO LISTEN LIKE WHAT QUEBEC HAS" [2025-10-30T18:27:10Z] (quebec uses a different legal system and such than the rest of canada because it was a french colony when it was acquired and they're treated somewhat differently than the british parts of canada as such) [2025-10-30T18:27:26Z] so everyone added what's called the notwithstanding clause to the constitution [2025-10-30T18:27:58Z] which is a big fat shiny red emergency button that allows the government to, with a motion of the respective legislative body, just [2025-10-30T18:27:58Z] suspend the constitution for up to five years? [2025-10-30T18:28:07Z] with very few parts that are immune to that? [2025-10-30T18:28:41Z] for example, under the constitution's charter of rights and freedoms, everyone in canada has the right to be free of discrimination on the basis of things like religion, sexuality, and so on [2025-10-30T18:28:50Z] ...unless the government invokes the notwithstanding clause! [2025-10-30T18:29:48Z] for example, in quebec, the CAQ government has been trying to ban public service workers from wearing anything associated with religiosity, like sikh's turbans or things like the burqa or similar [2025-10-30T18:29:57Z] that might have passed actually [2025-10-30T18:31:03Z] saskatchewan also used it to force a bill through that forces teachers and other school staff to out students who request gender accommodations such as different pronouns or names etc [2025-10-30T18:31:03Z] under the "parent's rights act" [2025-10-30T18:31:19Z] but the notwithstanding clause also allows the government to suspend the right to expression, as well as the right to assembly and peaceful demonstration [2025-10-30T18:31:25Z] banger [2025-10-30T18:31:29Z] this is all because of its origins in the wartime measures act [2025-10-30T18:32:37Z] which, like, okay, you know what, fine, if there's a literal fucking war happening on our soil, maybe you can justify suspending assembly and shit, on account of an active invasion of the country happening literally rn [2025-10-30T18:32:37Z] but the provincial governments have just been going CRAZY with the notwithstanding clause in recent years [2025-10-30T18:32:49Z] and its use for everything under the sun has been gradually making it acceptable to invoke in more and more case [2025-10-30T18:32:52Z] cases [2025-10-30T18:32:55Z] now [2025-10-30T18:33:02Z] until just the other day [2025-10-30T18:33:20Z] it had never been used to suspend the right of assocation and assembly in the case of a labour conflict [2025-10-30T18:34:07Z] the government would normally use either some sort of both-sides bullshit back-to-work legislation or, in recent years, the powers of the labour minister to declare a strike unlawful [2025-10-30T18:34:29Z] but the UCP, the far-right proto-fascist government of alberta funded by american petrol companies operating in the region, has just done exactly that [2025-10-30T18:34:47Z] invoking the notwithstanding clause to force a meagre settlement on the teachers of alberta and immediately force them back to work [2025-10-30T18:35:41Z] in response, their union has acquiesced on that battle, and called on the broader regional and national labour federations to do literally anything [2025-10-30T18:35:53Z] in response, both the students of alberta and the regional and provincial labour federations have stated that they're willing to go up to a general strike in order to not just beat back the legislation, but also to destroy the government [2025-10-30T18:36:07Z] the exact wording used in the interview was "topple this government" [2025-10-30T18:36:30Z] based [2025-10-30T18:36:38Z] but up until that point the student unions have said that if the teachers can't strike, then the students will [2025-10-30T18:37:13Z] so they'll have to teach empty classrooms [2025-10-30T18:37:18Z] and the labour federations have begun the process of mobilising their membership to engage in recall campaigns against their representatives [2025-10-30T18:37:27Z] who are UCP [2025-10-30T18:37:36Z] in order to replace them with pro-labour candidates [2025-10-30T18:38:02Z] again, the exact quote was, "if they won't shrink our classrooms, we'll shrink their caucus" [2025-10-30T18:38:43Z] (the strike is over the fact that teachers are expected to handle classes of 40-50 or more students at a time with little to no assistance) [2025-10-30T18:39:10Z] they're also attempting to punish the government for reallocating money that is supposed to be for public schools to private schools [2025-10-30T18:39:30Z] sometimes people aren't evil and it makes me happy [2025-10-30T18:39:38Z] the people striking i mean [2025-10-30T18:40:14Z] and they've said that if shaking up the legislature and rotating strikes won't work, then they'll mobilise as many people as they can to put the entire province on standstill [2025-10-30T18:40:15Z] something like 70% of the rank and file members have expressed a willingness to directly engage in a general strike [2025-10-30T18:40:15Z] of the provincial federation [2025-10-30T18:40:34Z] and something like 90% said they would engage in support action, even if they can't engage in direct action [2025-10-30T18:41:02Z] again, the exact quote was "they can't arrest five-hundred-thousand of us" [2025-10-30T18:41:12Z] i'll find the interview [2025-10-30T18:41:42Z] but i mean honestly this is just where we are now [2025-10-30T18:41:43Z] people have started stealing food from farms and choosing between heating or eating [2025-10-30T18:41:59Z] metabolic and dietary sicknesses are on the rise [2025-10-30T18:42:01Z] when my heater stops working, my heater starts workin [2025-10-30T18:42:15Z] housing is increasingly unaffordable even now [2025-10-30T18:42:34Z] and even as everything goes up, all we do is spend money on the military's defence contracts with american industry [2025-10-30T18:43:10Z] we just 2.5x'd our military budget [2025-10-30T18:43:10Z] and ramped up our border security to the tune of billions [2025-10-30T18:43:25Z] all while hundreds of thousands of people suffer due to low wages, lack of work, and crippled social programmes [2025-10-30T18:43:33Z] and our politicians overtly sneer down their noses at us [2025-10-30T18:43:57Z] afte last year's labour actions all being immediately busted up by the labour minister(s), people are done [2025-10-30T18:44:08Z] a not insignificant section of the populace is ready to riot [2025-10-30T18:44:45Z] of course, CONDEMN CONDEMN CONDEMN [2025-10-30T18:44:46Z] but also, like, fuck around and find out when it comes to starving people and their kids? [2025-10-30T18:44:46Z] yeah the same shit is about to happen here [2025-10-30T18:44:53Z] the poor and working class starving has historically been a leading factor in the rich being fucking GUILLOTINED [2025-10-30T18:45:40Z] which, of course, i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre i condemn robespierre [2025-10-30T18:45:45Z] BUT [2025-10-30T18:46:15Z] like maybe he had some good ideas about some things [2025-10-30T18:46:15Z] and stuff [2025-10-30T18:46:51Z] and like yeah [2025-10-30T18:46:51Z] * midfavila coughs. Loudly. [2025-10-30T18:47:13Z] also the food rations being cut in america is fucking INSANE [2025-10-30T18:47:47Z] its probably going to result in riots [2025-10-30T18:47:47Z] but i think that's intentional [2025-10-30T18:47:47Z] IMAGINE being so stupid that you cut food rationing programmes on like the same day you send more than 8x the amount it requires in cash to a foreign nation [2025-10-30T18:47:50Z] if you do that right as another election happens it postpones it [2025-10-30T18:47:53Z] and then ALSO build a fucking ballroom [2025-10-30T18:47:58Z] i mean [2025-10-30T18:48:00Z] it's intentional yes [2025-10-30T18:48:01Z] because [2025-10-30T18:48:07Z] its literally on purpose, he WANTS this place to riot because then he can declare emergency [2025-10-30T18:48:15Z] the point here is to create conditions that are so unbearable that people riot [2025-10-30T18:48:18Z] and then yeah [2025-10-30T18:48:34Z] he can declare a riot and then when people rebel he can declare insurrection and institute military rule [2025-10-30T18:49:00Z] this is probably going to lead to your reichstag incident [2025-10-30T18:49:25Z] i've seen people online talking about how if rations don't go out they'll just mob their local walmart [2025-10-30T18:49:29Z] the wally wars [2025-10-30T18:49:37Z] wally wars lmao [2025-10-30T18:49:38Z] belligerents: [2025-10-30T18:50:00Z] mcmarines and the costco coalition forces w/ support of ICE, DHS, and FBI [2025-10-30T18:50:01Z] vs [2025-10-30T18:50:09Z] antifa [2025-10-30T18:50:12Z] food not bombs [2025-10-30T18:50:31Z] socialist rifle association [2025-10-30T18:50:31Z] *fight* [2025-10-30T18:50:55Z] * midfavila inhales [2025-10-30T18:50:59Z] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [2025-10-30T18:51:03Z] fucking hell [2025-10-30T18:51:08Z] like i said, when my heater stops working my heater starts workin [2025-10-30T18:51:13Z] which is the general consensus here right now [2025-10-30T18:51:28Z] this is literally *why* we have guns [2025-10-30T18:51:44Z] s/my heater starts/the beaters starts/ [2025-10-30T18:52:01Z] i mean yes [2025-10-30T18:52:07Z] it makes me so mad when i see republikkkrats bitch about muh second amendment [2025-10-30T18:52:12Z] like yes you have to right to own guns [2025-10-30T18:52:15Z] but like [2025-10-30T18:52:21Z] your right isn't to *just* own guns [2025-10-30T18:52:40Z] the second amendment isn't there so you can collect 20 1911s [2025-10-30T18:52:50Z] and then sit them on your wall and have them do nothing [2025-10-30T18:52:52Z] you fucking idiots [2025-10-30T18:53:05Z] funny enough a good way to get the republicans worked up is to say some shit like [2025-10-30T18:53:27Z] "the founding fathers would shit themselves if they saw what is happening right now" [2025-10-30T18:53:27Z] which is factual [2025-10-30T18:53:34Z] lmao did you see ontario's reagan ad [2025-10-30T18:53:34Z] but also gets them worked up [2025-10-30T18:53:39Z] trump is being such a catty bitch about ontario rn [2025-10-30T18:53:40Z] it's so funny [2025-10-30T18:53:48Z] nah i saw nothing about that i dont look at the news [2025-10-30T18:53:52Z] it's so good [2025-10-30T18:54:09Z] tl;dr the tory shithead leader of ontario, doug ford, positioned himself as "captain canada" when trudeau was still in office [2025-10-30T18:54:18Z] bc trudeau was being a limp-dick loser [2025-10-30T18:54:21Z] which, tbf, trudeau [2025-10-30T18:54:22Z] but still [2025-10-30T18:54:24Z] come on man [2025-10-30T18:55:17Z] anyway, so doug ford has been taking the dirtbag "when they go low we go lower" approach, while the fed and most other premieres have been trying to be diplomatic and reasonable w/ the american administration [2025-10-30T18:55:17Z] which tbf that's the one policy of ford's i actually like [2025-10-30T18:55:39Z] bc this isn't the usual boring dry chess game of international diplomacy this is just trump being a shithead [2025-10-30T18:56:02Z] so if you're going to be a shithead you're going to have to expect pushback [2025-10-30T18:56:10Z] ANYWAY [2025-10-30T18:56:46Z] just the other day ford put out an anti-tariff pro-free trade ad that had a voiceover of reagan giving a speech about how tariffs destroy industry and etc [2025-10-30T18:57:11Z] which tbf if you're going to do a capitalism for some reason you should at least do an actual capitalism with free markets so that the contradictions of capitalism can emerge more viciously than ever, accelerating working-class revolution [2025-10-30T18:57:16Z] but YEAH [2025-10-30T18:57:21Z] so ford put out this anti-tariff ad [2025-10-30T18:57:25Z] w/ reagan in it [2025-10-30T18:57:44Z] and trump IMMEDIATELY started crying and pissing and shitting and rolling around on the ground bawling about it [2025-10-30T18:58:05Z] cut off trade negotiations with canada writ large for the foreseeable future and jacked up our general tariff rate by 10% [2025-10-30T18:58:23Z] his diplomat in ottawa was swearing and screaming at our diplomat to america [2025-10-30T18:59:08Z] when carney and trump were both in south korea for some sort of meeting with their government, trump was postan about how "UHM IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE HERE TO SEE *CANADA* WHY WOULD WE WANT TO DO THAT" [2025-10-30T18:59:12Z] etc [2025-10-30T18:59:54Z] what irks me is that some people here are still trying to go back to the quote-unquote "special relationship" canada and america had "before all this mess" [2025-10-30T19:00:04Z] like no that was bad for us and it's good that it's over [2025-10-30T19:00:11Z] * midfavila rubs his temples [2025-10-30T19:01:20Z] i have no real input chief [2025-10-30T19:01:27Z] highkey running a fever right now and hate my skin [2025-10-30T19:01:38Z] because my skin hurts when in contact with anything else rn [2025-10-30T19:01:52Z] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfm26zZwPs [2025-10-30T19:03:46Z] yeah idk man people need to realise that they have to save themselves and save each other [2025-10-30T19:04:19Z] and i think that's slowly starting to happen [2025-10-30T19:05:54Z] ngl sometimes i feel like i might overdose on hopium seeing this stuff [2025-10-30T19:05:55Z] WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANIME REAL WITH *OUR OWN TWO HANDS* [2025-10-30T19:05:55Z] it's the takeover [2025-10-30T19:05:58Z] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [2025-10-30T19:06:03Z] EVA LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [2025-10-30T19:06:14Z] IT'S *HAPPENIIIIIIIIIING* [2025-10-30T19:06:45Z] i've been reading you rant for like an hour [2025-10-30T19:07:25Z] i've missed you so much even if i have no idea what ur on about like at all [2025-10-30T19:07:25Z] i know i'm just so lovable [2025-10-30T19:07:45Z] basically canada and america are on fire :v [2025-10-30T19:09:01Z] 19:01 i have no real input chief [2025-10-30T19:09:02Z] LMAO [2025-10-30T19:09:22Z] tbf kris deltarune is also literally dying rn [2025-10-30T19:09:24Z] of the plague [2025-10-30T19:09:27Z] and dysentery [2025-10-30T19:10:06Z] lovely please please tell me more [2025-10-30T19:10:37Z] idk man go ask him lol [2025-10-30T19:10:38Z] kris_ is literally right here [2025-10-30T19:10:38Z] i'm not asking someone i don't know abt his diarrhea [2025-10-30T19:10:46Z] lmao [2025-10-30T19:11:06Z] also i haven't gotten the pg tips yet but i will soon [2025-10-30T19:11:14Z] ?? it's been a few weeks [2025-10-30T19:11:32Z] yeah i haven't gone to get groceries in a few weeks [2025-10-30T19:11:42Z] haven't had the energy on the weekend [2025-10-30T19:11:58Z] usually i just sleep through the entire weekend [2025-10-30T19:12:09Z] i've come back and you're both poorly with the black death what is dis [2025-10-30T19:12:32Z] i'm just poorly with working 14 hour days five days a week [2025-10-30T19:12:54Z] yeah i made the mistake of going to the doctor [2025-10-30T19:13:00Z] kris! ! ! [2025-10-30T19:13:02Z] infinite debt [2025-10-30T19:13:08Z] healthcare is free for me [2025-10-30T19:13:08Z] for now [2025-10-30T19:13:11Z] unlimited bankruptcies upon your entire bloodline [2025-10-30T19:13:45Z] for all eternity [2025-10-30T19:13:45Z] -9999999999999999 FICO credit score [2025-10-30T19:13:45Z] >go to doctor for antibiotics [2025-10-30T19:13:45Z] >get sick because that's the sick environment [2025-10-30T19:13:50Z] many such cases [2025-10-30T19:14:13Z] dwight was right about this [2025-10-30T19:14:19Z] you go to the doctor if you *wanna* get sick [2025-10-30T19:14:35Z] tbf i should have worn a mask [2025-10-30T19:14:43Z] the people at the place literally asked why i wasn't wearing a mask [2025-10-30T19:14:46Z] it just didnt cross my mind [2025-10-30T19:15:19Z] evahasarrived: eva! ! ! 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[2025-10-30T19:15:53Z] shit i should make tea you're right [2025-10-30T19:15:56Z] always makes me feel better [2025-10-30T19:16:01Z] DUDE [2025-10-30T19:16:03Z] tea is the best [2025-10-30T19:16:09Z] my dad surprised the shit out of me the other day [2025-10-30T19:16:10Z] but also i'm not getting fucking decaf [2025-10-30T19:16:15Z] what's a GOOD pg tips tea [2025-10-30T19:16:16Z] ?? why not [2025-10-30T19:16:19Z] it's the same thing [2025-10-30T19:16:20Z] i was getting pissed off by boiling water in a pot on my stove when i wanted tea / coffee [2025-10-30T19:16:26Z] and he shows up with an electric kettle [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] you were what [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] because i want the caffeine >.> [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] evahasarrived: boiling water in a pot on my stove [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] or alternatively in the microwave [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] evahasarrived: be glad he- [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] ???? [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] I KNEW IT [2025-10-30T19:16:55Z] I KNEW IT [2025-10-30T19:16:56Z] standard american behavior im aware other people find this insane [2025-10-30T19:16:58Z] TYPICAL YANK [2025-10-30T19:17:00Z] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [2025-10-30T19:17:09Z] we dont use kettles [2025-10-30T19:17:11Z] no wonder you're looking for a cure for everything [2025-10-30T19:17:13Z] or well i do now [2025-10-30T19:17:14Z] in the MICROWAVE? [2025-10-30T19:17:16Z] yeah? [2025-10-30T19:17:19Z] its not like it taints the water [2025-10-30T19:17:22Z] evahasarrived: yanks microwave their tea [2025-10-30T19:17:25Z] it's so cursed [2025-10-30T19:17:28Z] barbaric even [2025-10-30T19:17:31Z] i still fail to see an issue with this [2025-10-30T19:17:37Z] that's the PROBLEM [2025-10-30T19:17:39Z] hell when i make instant noodles i open the cup and pour water in there and put it in the microwave [2025-10-30T19:17:39Z] >:C [2025-10-30T19:17:44Z] we don't boil water for instant noodles usually [2025-10-30T19:17:47Z] it just goes in the microwave [2025-10-30T19:17:56Z] i am literally screaming rn [2025-10-30T19:18:03Z] how could you do this to me kris_ [2025-10-30T19:18:31Z] how could i be american? [2025-10-30T19:18:31Z] idk this was my spawn point [2025-10-30T19:19:02Z] i havent actually tried the electric kettle out yet [2025-10-30T19:19:05Z] miao mrrp [2025-10-30T19:19:06Z] mraoow [2025-10-30T19:19:07Z] supposedly boils in ~3 minutes [2025-10-30T19:19:09Z] do so posthaste kris [2025-10-30T19:19:22Z] using the appropriate tool for the job is important [2025-10-30T19:19:23Z] so i should have haste and wait for it to stop and then do it? [2025-10-30T19:19:25Z] wtf is posthaste [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] do so *directly* [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] like rn [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] as we speak [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] go put the kettle on [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] it's gonna change your life [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] YOU put the kettle on [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] im too lazy [2025-10-30T19:20:01Z] do so posthaste HAHA [2025-10-30T19:20:11Z] i put the kettle on just a few minutes ago bc i need another pot of tea [2025-10-30T19:20:13Z] the next time i run the dish washer ill throw the kettle in [2025-10-30T19:20:17Z] its brand new so im not gonna just use it rn [2025-10-30T19:20:21Z] * midfavila squints [2025-10-30T19:20:21Z] and im also not washing anything by hand [2025-10-30T19:20:37Z] ...puting an... an electric kettle in the dishwasher [2025-10-30T19:20:52Z] >putting a kettle in the dishwasher at all [2025-10-30T19:20:57Z] yeah the electric bits are in the like [2025-10-30T19:20:59Z] base [2025-10-30T19:21:01Z] not in the top of it [2025-10-30T19:21:35Z] first of all it's probably still not dishwasher safe [2025-10-30T19:21:41Z] idk it has instructions ill look [2025-10-30T19:22:02Z] second of all i have never met anyone who does more than rinse their kettle and maybe wash it out by soaking it in some dish soap once in a while [2025-10-30T19:22:09Z] it's only going to have water in it [2025-10-30T19:22:18Z] or do you like boil soup in it or something [2025-10-30T19:22:26Z] >campbells in a kettle [2025-10-30T19:22:32Z] ive seen people do that [2025-10-30T19:23:06Z] god ofc [2025-10-30T19:23:06Z] infact i was looking at it the other day to see if i could put a brick of ramen inside of it [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] i dont think i can [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] or should, rather [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] i definitely *can* [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] kris made his thanksgiving dinner in the kettle what [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] WH [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] WHAT [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] that's normal behavior lmao [2025-10-30T19:23:07Z] kris_ to the gnulag [2025-10-30T19:23:21Z] i'm confiscating your kettle [2025-10-30T19:23:27Z] and all technology more advanced than a fucking pot [2025-10-30T19:23:36Z] mid listening to linkin park with the lights off after hearing that you can put ramen in a kettle [2025-10-30T19:23:57Z] that's just gross [2025-10-30T19:24:09Z] no u [2025-10-30T19:24:44Z] i'm not the one microwaving tea and kettle'ing my noodles [2025-10-30T19:24:44Z] Ozymandias42: i need you to feel me on this [2025-10-30T19:24:44Z] midfavila: you're doomed i've summoned the ozy [2025-10-30T19:25:02Z] literally nobody is going to side with the kettle cretin [2025-10-30T19:25:06Z] on this [2025-10-30T19:25:11Z] there is NOTHING WRONG with putting instant noodles in an electric kettle [2025-10-30T19:25:15Z] its just boiling water [2025-10-30T19:25:24Z] and i'm sure there's nothing wrong with microwaving tea either [2025-10-30T19:25:27Z] smdh [2025-10-30T19:25:29Z] there isn't [2025-10-30T19:25:52Z] i have these little circular bags of tea that you put in the bottom of a mug and pour water into it and then put it in the microwave [2025-10-30T19:26:22Z] and then get them out with a fork or something [2025-10-30T19:26:22Z] once its hot [2025-10-30T19:26:22Z] and done [2025-10-30T19:26:22Z] somebody is gna join asking for help and kris is gna be like [2025-10-30T19:26:22Z] settle an argument for us...! [2025-10-30T19:26:23Z] i love the appeal to authority fallacy [2025-10-30T19:26:25Z] i mean isn't that what you do when you join for literally .5 seconds just to snipe me [2025-10-30T19:26:29Z] fair [2025-10-30T19:26:37Z] yeah ik it's fair that's why i SAID IT >:C [2025-10-30T19:26:54Z] smdh [2025-10-30T19:27:17Z] oh yeah mid i ended up getting a 96% on my argument against free will which is kinda insane [2025-10-30T19:27:53Z] my family members told me my take on that was idiotic but my professor loved it [2025-10-30T19:27:54Z] nice [2025-10-30T19:27:57Z] ur family sounds annoying no offence [2025-10-30T19:28:03Z] im just proud because a grade that high in her class is very unusual [2025-10-30T19:28:10Z] that's such a lame thing of them to say [2025-10-30T19:28:12Z] now the issue is that i need to argue myself [2025-10-30T19:28:16Z] midfavila: they didnt say exactly that [2025-10-30T19:28:27Z] my father just told me my definition of free will is different from absolutely everyone elses on the planet [2025-10-30T19:28:36Z] said definition being the ability to do otherwise from what you do [2025-10-30T19:29:10Z] well yeah. the ability to like, consciously decide on a course of action and then choose whether to act on said decision or to do otherwise. [2025-10-30T19:29:41Z] the thing i pointed out is that you absolutely can do that [2025-10-30T19:29:41Z] but you have zero say over what you end up picking [2025-10-30T19:29:41Z] not directly [2025-10-30T19:29:41Z] but then it could easily be argued that you always- yeah [2025-10-30T19:29:52Z] if the universe is purely consequentialist then you would have always done that anyway [2025-10-30T19:30:10Z] once i'm able to time travel i'm going to go back to the beginning of the universe and shift around matter just enough to make you like the idea of ramen in an ekettle [2025-10-30T19:30:40Z] butterfly effect, everyone is now also a furry [2025-10-30T19:31:14Z] i would make that tradeoff [2025-10-30T19:31:14Z] that's problematic [2025-10-30T19:31:14Z] WRONG END [2025-10-30T19:31:14Z] too late [2025-10-30T19:31:14Z] it's already done [2025-10-30T19:31:14Z] you're already done [2025-10-30T19:31:15Z] evahasarrived is a furry now and so are you [2025-10-30T19:31:25Z] i'll accept the title of weeb [2025-10-30T19:31:30Z] actually no i wont [2025-10-30T19:31:31Z] i won't [2025-10-30T19:31:31Z] too derogatory [2025-10-30T19:32:54Z] so given our conversation the other day i have to find a way to shit on my argument there [2025-10-30T19:32:58Z] quantum blah blah bullshit leaves room for things that are truly random but that doesnt work either because you can't control something if it's literally random [2025-10-30T19:33:00Z] like that's the whole thing [2025-10-30T19:33:03Z] so still no free will [2025-10-30T19:33:06Z] >"uhm actually i prefer to be called a cartoon connoisseur mid, you lowbrow types wouldn't understand it like i do" [2025-10-30T19:33:26Z] i stink therefore i am [2025-10-30T19:34:31Z] ah yes, the famous quote fom renowned philosopher of mind renes deshartes [2025-10-30T19:34:31Z] i really like this class though [2025-10-30T19:34:31Z] right now we're doing this thing based on what descartes said where you can't absolutely prove anything at all [2025-10-30T19:34:35Z] which might be useful to shit on my argument here somehow [2025-10-30T19:34:46Z] i mean i think your argument is nonfalsifiable [2025-10-30T19:34:50Z] like the only things that *absolutely* exist are your mind [2025-10-30T19:34:53Z] and imo time [2025-10-30T19:34:59Z] and if something is nonfalsifiable it's not worth debating over [2025-10-30T19:35:01Z] midfavila: that's the issue [2025-10-30T19:35:05Z] problem is i have to [2025-10-30T19:35:08Z] so i might have fucked myself over here [2025-10-30T19:35:12Z] argue against having to argue at all [2025-10-30T19:35:19Z] * midfavila shrugs [2025-10-30T19:35:20Z] i dont know if she'd respect that or not [2025-10-30T19:35:24Z] ill have to send her an email [2025-10-30T19:36:05Z] well, i mean, if it's nonfalsifiable then you kind of can't argue against it [2025-10-30T19:36:05Z] or hell i might be misunderstanding the assignment [2025-10-30T19:36:05Z] next one i mean [2025-10-30T19:36:06Z] the point may be to make a counterpoint myself and *also* shit on that [2025-10-30T19:36:18Z] which would make it easy [2025-10-30T19:37:04Z] actually [2025-10-30T19:37:40Z] have you looked at symbolic logic and stuff yet [2025-10-30T19:37:40Z] i could get wild and argue that the universe can't be proven to exist at all and all perception is a result of our own mind and therefore the chain of events to cause our takes never happened [2025-10-30T19:37:40Z] or may not have ever happened [2025-10-30T19:37:40Z] given what i just said about descartes [2025-10-30T19:37:46Z] brain in a jar type shit [2025-10-30T19:37:53Z] i mean there are people who have argued similar things [2025-10-30T19:38:03Z] well dont tell me about it because i can't reference other things [2025-10-30T19:38:11Z] and if someone tells me something its going to be stuck in my mind [2025-10-30T19:38:22Z] okay well i won't tell you any more then [2025-10-30T19:38:35Z] i could pull off being inspired by someone elses argument [2025-10-30T19:38:40Z] i just kinda dont want to because i want to actually think about this [2025-10-30T19:39:16Z] thing is, if you can suggest that one of the premises of the argument may be wrong or IS wrong, the entire argument falls flat [2025-10-30T19:39:16Z] because it's all if/then [2025-10-30T19:40:53Z] i mean you can use a uhhhhh [2025-10-30T19:41:11Z] fuckin table or whatever to enumerate every possible combination of your argument's premises being true or false [2025-10-30T19:41:21Z] and work out if your statement still holds [2025-10-30T19:42:27Z] i recall reading about a few different ways to evaluate arguments using symbolic logic when i was still actively studying this stuff but that was like four years ago when i still had time to read [2025-10-30T19:43:13Z] ive been actively studying philosophy my entire life [2025-10-30T19:43:18Z] so this class is like right up my alley [2025-10-30T19:43:19Z] i love it [2025-10-30T19:44:26Z] but no we've not done any tables [2025-10-30T19:44:32Z] just studied the various logical fallcies and otherwise [2025-10-30T19:44:41Z] im kinda wondering if i should have intentionally left something like that in there to give myself a hole later on [2025-10-30T19:45:37Z] actually honestly mid please argue me on this [2025-10-30T19:45:45Z] like devils advocate shit [2025-10-30T19:45:48Z] not supposed to do this but yeah [2025-10-30T19:46:19Z] what, you want me to argue with you about free will? [2025-10-30T19:46:22Z] i mean, okay, i guess [2025-10-30T19:47:12Z] i'm not meant for the astral plane [2025-10-30T19:47:12Z] NOOOO [2025-10-30T19:47:14Z] FUCK [2025-10-30T19:47:20Z] i didnt mean to spook eva away [2025-10-30T19:47:27Z] eva? EVA? EVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!