[2025-11-15T00:47:58Z] <kris_> Ozymandias42: evangelion and ditf are somewhat similar from what ive heard yeah
[2025-11-15T00:48:01Z] <kris_> ive never watched evangelion
[2025-11-15T02:44:37Z] <midfavila> can't wait until i have the money to build a custom pc again
[2025-11-15T02:44:40Z] <midfavila> so tired of dealing with novideo
[2025-11-15T03:11:32Z] <kris_> yeah novideo is annoying
[2025-11-15T03:11:47Z] <kris_> i dropped a stupid amount of money on my last amd gpu during a mining craze because i just couldnt stand my nvidia card anymore
[2025-11-15T04:35:37Z] <midfavila> i just want like
[2025-11-15T04:35:40Z] <midfavila> one of those fuckin uhh
[2025-11-15T04:35:43Z] <midfavila> matrox cards
[2025-11-15T04:35:52Z] <midfavila> the 2D-only ones with the quad-DP
[2025-11-15T04:36:08Z] <midfavila> just give me that with an open source linux and X driver and i will never ever fuckin complain ever again
[2025-11-15T04:36:12Z] <midfavila> *PLEASE*
[2025-11-15T04:36:29Z] <midfavila> nobody gives a shit about your driver and firmware codebsaes, matrox
[2025-11-15T04:36:32Z] <midfavila> codebases*
[2025-11-15T04:36:41Z] <midfavila> literally zero reason to keep them locked down
[2025-11-15T04:37:02Z] <kris_> i really think you should just get some old ass amd card, they're still on life support
[2025-11-15T04:37:14Z] <kris_> the r9 270x in my server that i got for free is being moved from the radeon driver to the amdgpu driver shortly iirc
[2025-11-15T04:37:19Z] <kris_> that thing is *fucking old*
[2025-11-15T04:37:34Z] <midfavila> yeah but i want quad dp tho
[2025-11-15T04:37:37Z] <kris_> released in 2013
[2025-11-15T04:37:39Z] <midfavila> does it have quad dp
[2025-11-15T04:37:41Z] <kris_> i cant believe its still working
[2025-11-15T04:37:48Z] <kris_> i dont think so, quad dp is gonna be rare on non workstation cards
[2025-11-15T04:37:54Z] <midfavila> >i can't believe this perfectly functional hardware is still working
[2025-11-15T04:37:55Z] <kris_> you could just get adapters
[2025-11-15T04:38:02Z] <midfavila> also yes i am literally looking for a workstation card
[2025-11-15T04:38:04Z] <kris_> midfavila: i cant believe its still supported more accurately
[2025-11-15T04:38:08Z] <kris_> im not surprised it still works
[2025-11-15T04:38:12Z] <midfavila> i want a shitass single slot 75W max quad dp card
[2025-11-15T04:38:21Z] <midfavila> with no fancy features 
[2025-11-15T04:38:50Z] <midfavila> brb rebooting
[2025-11-15T04:38:54Z] <kris_> idk that card in my server does literally nothing, i bet it wont die for at least 10 more years
[2025-11-15T04:39:08Z] <kris_> i dont even have drivers for it installed, its just a display out because the ryzen 5 3600 in my server has no igpu
[2025-11-15T04:41:07Z] <kris_> i would like to get a replacement for it that's less power hungry though even though it's never really used
[2025-11-15T04:41:20Z] <kris_> that card chows down on power, iirc it has two 6 pins
[2025-11-15T04:45:00Z] <midfavila> back
[2025-11-15T04:45:36Z] <midfavila> istg it would be easier to just build a 64-bit clean minimal kiss setup and then slap steam and shit inside of conty
[2025-11-15T04:46:55Z] <midfavila> i can't wait until the new steam pc releases
[2025-11-15T04:47:09Z] <midfavila> so i can just fucking put all my games on it, stick it in the closet, and forget it fucking exists
[2025-11-15T04:47:26Z] <midfavila> just stream it to my main PC over 2.5Gbe 
[2025-11-15T04:50:45Z] <midfavila> oh my god i'm going to put my fucking fist through this piece of shit 970
[2025-11-15T04:51:03Z] <midfavila> i keep getting the most unhelpful error after updating my drivers and shit
[2025-11-15T04:51:14Z] <midfavila> "failed to copy vbios to system memory"
[2025-11-15T04:51:19Z] <midfavila> like okay yes i understand that
[2025-11-15T04:51:24Z] <midfavila> but there's nothing useful on the net
[2025-11-15T04:54:58Z] <midfavila> rebooting again
[2025-11-15T04:58:45Z] <midfavila> okay
[2025-11-15T04:58:46Z] <midfavila> there we go
[2025-11-15T04:58:47Z] <midfavila> finally
[2025-11-15T04:58:55Z] <midfavila> had to clear out sbopkg's cache
[2025-11-15T04:59:19Z] <midfavila> didn't realise it was polluted since it's in /tmp 
[2025-11-15T04:59:23Z] <midfavila> which *isn't* a ramdisk
[2025-11-15T04:59:29Z] <midfavila> for some reason 
[2025-11-15T04:59:35Z] * midfavila rubs his eyes
[2025-11-15T05:26:21Z] <kris_> i learned conty exists the other day, it seems interesting
[2025-11-15T11:23:23Z] <dery> uh I might have forgotten to turn the bouncer off lmao
[2025-11-15T11:23:26Z] <dery> it lasted a few days I see
[2025-11-15T12:05:26Z] <kris_> heh
[2025-11-15T12:05:29Z] <kris_> welcome back dery 
[2025-11-15T12:06:12Z] <dery> ty <3
[2025-11-15T12:44:20Z] <evahasarrived> what do i take for a chest infection i feel like im being killed
[2025-11-15T13:05:49Z] <sewn> sleep
[2025-11-15T13:09:21Z] <evahasarrived> i sneezed up the wall its fucking disgusting
[2025-11-15T13:09:24Z] <evahasarrived> i am so sexy and sick
[2025-11-15T13:09:35Z] <sewn> you should wri
[2025-11-15T13:09:36Z] <sewn> okay
[2025-11-15T13:10:04Z] <sewn> enjoy your sickness, sexy sick skank
[2025-11-15T13:11:52Z] <evahasarrived> SKANK?
[2025-11-15T13:12:54Z] <sewn> i didnt want to say slut because its too mean
[2025-11-15T13:12:58Z] <sewn> it did rhyme though
[2025-11-15T13:21:20Z] <kris_> WOW sewn
[2025-11-15T13:21:26Z] <sewn> hai kris
[2025-11-15T13:21:39Z] <kris_> that was so rude
[2025-11-15T13:21:44Z] <sewn> which one
[2025-11-15T13:21:53Z] <kris_> calling eva that
[2025-11-15T13:21:56Z] <sewn> yeah which one
[2025-11-15T13:21:58Z] <kris_> both
[2025-11-15T13:22:03Z] <sewn> okey
[2025-11-15T13:22:06Z] <kris_> gm though
[2025-11-15T13:22:16Z] <sewn> mim
[2025-11-15T13:22:37Z] <kris_> im so sleepy
[2025-11-15T13:22:48Z] <sewn> take a shower
[2025-11-15T13:22:59Z] <kris_> that will make me sleepier
[2025-11-15T13:23:08Z] <kris_> and i can't, the bathroom is a nono zone for the next 45 minutes at least
[2025-11-15T13:23:12Z] <sewn> okey
[2025-11-15T13:48:25Z] <sad_plan> hai guys
[2025-11-15T13:48:40Z] <kris_> helo
[2025-11-15T13:50:46Z] <dery> I didn't even know what skank meant
[2025-11-15T13:51:02Z] <dery> before just looking it up I mean
[2025-11-15T13:51:04Z] <sad_plan> kris_: conty is decent. ive yet to use it for much outside of firefox, but its really nice. I have a plan to use it on my desktop aswell, if I ever bother to sort it all out really :p this way I can get rid of dualbooting cachyOS, and just simply never boot into my own distro. havent touched it at all since earlier this year lol
[2025-11-15T13:51:23Z] <kris_> i have got to limit the size of my notifications
[2025-11-15T13:51:50Z] <kris_> and yeah one of my friends runs world of warcraft in conty 
[2025-11-15T14:20:36Z] <sad_plan> nice
[2025-11-15T14:21:20Z] <sad_plan> I was going to run factorio through conty, but it just errors out, because my kernel is too old :(
[2025-11-15T14:21:31Z] * sad_plan cries in 5.4.x
[2025-11-15T14:22:04Z] <kris_> why are you on such an old kernel
[2025-11-15T14:24:39Z] <sad_plan> less features, less attack surface. or something I guess
[2025-11-15T14:25:38Z] <sad_plan> I was on 5.15 a while back, but I wanted to try to do 4.9, but I could never get it to build. it also went eol, which 5.4 also does now next month. so im going to have to upgrade anyhow. ive been meaning to bump to 5.15 again, which seems to be the lowest I was able to run
[2025-11-15T14:25:46Z] <sad_plan> but maybe not. we will se
[2025-11-15T16:08:00Z] <midfavila> the israelis aren't going to use your computer to blow you up if you upgrade your kernel sad_plan 
[2025-11-15T16:08:18Z] <midfavila> they've already put bombs in your keyboards and phone for that
[2025-11-15T16:08:23Z] <midfavila> so you can upgrade safely
[2025-11-15T16:08:51Z] <kris_> just disable the things you don't want if you really wanna go that route
[2025-11-15T16:09:07Z] <kris_> albeit i get it kinda, at this point ill only use well established lts kernels
[2025-11-15T16:09:19Z] <kris_> tired of kernel bugs fucking every update
[2025-11-15T16:09:58Z] <kris_> 6.12 my current beloved
[2025-11-15T16:10:58Z] * midfavila raises eyebrows at kris_ 
[2025-11-15T16:11:24Z] <kris_> why you raise brow
[2025-11-15T16:12:41Z] * kris_ forcibly lowers midfavilas eyebrows
[2025-11-15T16:13:31Z] <midfavila> how did you reach them
[2025-11-15T16:13:37Z] <midfavila> too high 4 u
[2025-11-15T16:13:46Z] <kris_> i own a ladder
[2025-11-15T16:33:09Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: I wasnt worried really, more about fixing my patches instead is combersome
[2025-11-15T16:33:18Z] <sad_plan> re eyebrows: lol
[2025-11-15T16:57:36Z] <sad_plan> kris_: maybe mids eyebrows are really highrbows
[2025-11-15T17:00:20Z] <sad_plan> kris_: put your cat ears back on, and maybe you can reach them
[2025-11-15T17:27:30Z] <midfavila> too smol
[2025-11-15T17:27:31Z] <midfavila> :3c
[2025-11-15T17:27:50Z] <midfavila> also today is chore day and i just finished washing my favourite sheets and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa they're amazing
[2025-11-15T17:27:56Z] <midfavila> i wish it was easier to get 100% hemp sheets
[2025-11-15T17:28:01Z] <midfavila> they're *so* comfy
[2025-11-15T17:32:56Z] <midfavila> even better would be my landlord giving me a roof access key so i could air-dry stuff on a line...
[2025-11-15T17:32:59Z] <midfavila> alas
[2025-11-15T17:59:12Z] <midfavila> hey do you guys know of any good tech publications btw?
[2025-11-15T17:59:27Z] <midfavila> i used to read linux format and shit and they were pretty good but it would be cool to have like
[2025-11-15T17:59:32Z] <midfavila> a zine for alt-tech
[2025-11-15T17:59:38Z] <midfavila> fediverse and gemini and open hardware and stuff
[2025-11-15T18:05:28Z] <dery> wym alt-tech
[2025-11-15T18:05:37Z] <midfavila> literally alternative technology
[2025-11-15T18:05:40Z] <midfavila> like
[2025-11-15T18:05:40Z] <dery> yes but
[2025-11-15T18:05:40Z] <dery> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-tech
[2025-11-15T18:05:48Z] <dery> the fascist were quicker than you
[2025-11-15T18:05:50Z] <midfavila> oh i didn't realise that was an actual term
[2025-11-15T18:05:50Z] <midfavila> lmao
[2025-11-15T18:05:55Z] <midfavila> okay yeah not that
[2025-11-15T18:05:58Z] <dery> lmao
[2025-11-15T18:06:00Z] <midfavila> :V
[2025-11-15T18:06:04Z] <midfavila> no, i mean like
[2025-11-15T18:06:11Z] <midfavila> have you ever read, idk, it's foss or whatever
[2025-11-15T18:06:15Z] <dery> mhhh I think there is a word for what you mean
[2025-11-15T18:06:24Z] <midfavila> they have a good format but all they ever talk about is the most basic stuff
[2025-11-15T18:06:28Z] <midfavila> which i get it that's the point
[2025-11-15T18:06:43Z] <midfavila> but i can only read so many articles about the latest libreoffice feature or whatever before i want to see something a little more niche
[2025-11-15T18:07:08Z] <dery> there's like https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/ but it talks about stuff that's a lot more generic
[2025-11-15T18:07:24Z] <midfavila> there were some people on SDF's BBS that were discussing a community-run magazine but idk the status of that
[2025-11-15T18:07:42Z] <midfavila> also the mag was pretty loose in its focus iirc
[2025-11-15T18:08:00Z] <midfavila> lowtech is cool
[2025-11-15T18:08:05Z] <dery> also I think that there are a few smolnet ones
[2025-11-15T18:08:24Z] <midfavila> is that like
[2025-11-15T18:08:26Z] <midfavila> the word for it
[2025-11-15T18:08:28Z] <midfavila> gopher and shit
[2025-11-15T18:08:29Z] <midfavila> ?
[2025-11-15T18:09:08Z] <dery> yea
[2025-11-15T18:09:11Z] <dery> not only that though
[2025-11-15T18:09:16Z] <dery> also lightweight HTTP I think
[2025-11-15T18:09:16Z] <midfavila> gemini and stuff
[2025-11-15T18:09:18Z] <dery> yea
[2025-11-15T18:09:21Z] <midfavila> i've seen people include finger
[2025-11-15T18:09:26Z] <dery> that also works
[2025-11-15T18:09:35Z] <midfavila> idk i don't like including http at all
[2025-11-15T18:09:52Z] <midfavila> it's way too easy on the web to like
[2025-11-15T18:09:53Z] <dery> Mh I think I make the association because the somlnet websites I visit have also an http mirror
[2025-11-15T18:09:59Z] <midfavila> find yourself on some godawful site
[2025-11-15T18:10:00Z] <midfavila> or w/e
[2025-11-15T18:10:11Z] <midfavila> whereas gopher gemini etc you just don't
[2025-11-15T18:10:22Z] <dery> I think HTTP is borderline smolnet depending on the websites
[2025-11-15T18:10:23Z] <midfavila> speaking of hypertext protocols dyk if spartan is still a thing?
[2025-11-15T18:10:29Z] <dery> not really
[2025-11-15T18:10:31Z] <midfavila> idk i feel like the scope should be strict
[2025-11-15T18:10:32Z] <dery> like I dunno
[2025-11-15T18:10:43Z] <dery> The name rings a bell but I've never explored it
[2025-11-15T18:10:45Z] <midfavila> like if it's *possible* to make it bloated and huge, it's not part of that
[2025-11-15T18:10:45Z] <dery> gemini gang rise up
[2025-11-15T18:10:51Z] <midfavila> i don't like gemini
[2025-11-15T18:11:12Z] <midfavila> mandatory tls excludes older hardware and increases technical requirements without a real benefit imho
[2025-11-15T18:11:20Z] <midfavila> it's static publically available data
[2025-11-15T18:11:31Z] <midfavila> unless they've added CGI capability or something i don't see the point
[2025-11-15T18:11:49Z] <dery> I mean
[2025-11-15T18:12:00Z] <dery> there's technically TOFU support so you could indeed generate personal-facing stuff
[2025-11-15T18:12:11Z] <midfavila> wtf is bean curd doing in my browser
[2025-11-15T18:12:11Z] <dery> but like, yea, I _kinda_ get your point
[2025-11-15T18:12:17Z] <dery> lmao
[2025-11-15T18:12:30Z] <dery> Trust On First Use btw, the SSH way of doing certificate stuff
[2025-11-15T18:12:33Z] <midfavila> ultimately my point is that it's not very minimalist to just slap shit on there without a reason
[2025-11-15T18:12:39Z] <dery> I mean is TLS that bad
[2025-11-15T18:12:41Z] <dery> I never got that
[2025-11-15T18:12:47Z] <dery> it's just encryption, would you not use SSH on older machines too
[2025-11-15T18:13:04Z] <midfavila> okay but the thing is ssh is like
[2025-11-15T18:13:21Z] <midfavila> an interactive way of remotely controlling machines and transferring possibly confidential data over insecure networks
[2025-11-15T18:13:28Z] <midfavila> using encryption in that scenario makes sense
[2025-11-15T18:13:39Z] <midfavila> plaintext passwords and stuff over untrusted networks isn't great
[2025-11-15T18:13:46Z] <midfavila> but if i'm just, idk
[2025-11-15T18:13:54Z] <midfavila> downloading a gif of a cat from someone's blog
[2025-11-15T18:13:58Z] <midfavila> that doesn't need encryption
[2025-11-15T18:14:36Z] <dery> Honestly, there's the remote possibility of just getting injected stuff from ISPs that's also valid IMO
[2025-11-15T18:14:44Z] <dery> like, it was the norm once with HTTP
[2025-11-15T18:14:56Z] <midfavila> nobody is going to inject ads into your gemini stuff
[2025-11-15T18:14:57Z] <midfavila> :v
[2025-11-15T18:15:01Z] <dery> perhaps
[2025-11-15T18:15:11Z] <midfavila> no it won't happen
[2025-11-15T18:15:22Z] <midfavila> that only started occuring bc http took off 
[2025-11-15T18:15:33Z] <midfavila> http took off because it's bingy and bongy and has all your favourite slop on it
[2025-11-15T18:15:44Z] <midfavila> gemini and gopher et al are like
[2025-11-15T18:15:46Z] <midfavila> not that
[2025-11-15T18:15:56Z] <dery> if you insist, but I like the guarantee
[2025-11-15T18:15:57Z] <midfavila> so they don't appeal to the majority of people using the web bc it's just not what they're after
[2025-11-15T18:16:05Z] <dery> also, it's very little data, how much CPU time can it take
[2025-11-15T18:16:24Z] <midfavila> a lot on older hardware
[2025-11-15T18:16:33Z] <midfavila> and it's not just about that
[2025-11-15T18:16:40Z] <midfavila> it's about using things unnecessarily
[2025-11-15T18:16:50Z] <midfavila> that's a violation of the supposed minimalist principles gemini espouses
[2025-11-15T18:16:52Z] <midfavila> imho
[2025-11-15T18:16:58Z] <midfavila> that sort of thing really bothers me
[2025-11-15T18:17:02Z] <dery> I think it's about requirements
[2025-11-15T18:17:12Z] <dery> also again, you can send stuff back
[2025-11-15T18:17:17Z] <midfavila> >ah yes, time to link OpenSSL into my ultra-minimal hypertext browser
[2025-11-15T18:17:17Z] <dery> and technically, like, log in or whatever
[2025-11-15T18:17:27Z] <dery> there's kernel APIs yk
[2025-11-15T18:17:37Z] <dery> and bearssl, checkmate
[2025-11-15T18:17:57Z] <midfavila> i still fundamentally dislike unnecessary use of encryption
[2025-11-15T18:17:58Z] <dery> it's like saying that compression is unnecessary
[2025-11-15T18:18:02Z] <midfavila> no, it's not
[2025-11-15T18:18:11Z] <midfavila> in most cases compression is useful
[2025-11-15T18:18:15Z] <midfavila> albeit in some cases it's not
[2025-11-15T18:18:30Z] <dery> yea but every page is probably a few packets
[2025-11-15T18:18:31Z] <midfavila> whatever
[2025-11-15T18:18:35Z] <midfavila> i don't care enough to argue about this
[2025-11-15T18:18:39Z] <dery> fair lol
[2025-11-15T18:18:51Z] <midfavila> i'll use a gopher-gemini gateway if i need to
[2025-11-15T18:19:00Z] <midfavila> but i don't care much about the content on gemini 
[2025-11-15T18:19:10Z] <dery> 100% fair
[2025-11-15T18:19:17Z] <dery> that's the great thing about having different things
[2025-11-15T18:19:23Z] <dery> fragmentation my beloved, unironically
[2025-11-15T18:25:05Z] <midfavila> man i wish i could just get a job at the local makerspace
[2025-11-15T18:25:10Z] <midfavila> and just work there 
[2025-11-15T18:25:12Z] <midfavila> that would be cool
[2025-11-15T18:25:49Z] <dery> those places just rock
[2025-11-15T18:26:14Z] <dery> in germany it's apparently full of these kind of things also because CCC and man do I envy germans
[2025-11-15T18:27:26Z] <midfavila> the local makerspace is really cool
[2025-11-15T18:27:30Z] <midfavila> it's next to the bike cooperative
[2025-11-15T18:27:34Z] <midfavila> they have everything 
[2025-11-15T18:29:48Z] <dery> that's actually why I advocate to stay where I live despite there not being anything 
[2025-11-15T18:29:57Z] <dery> like, I will make that happen, one day
[2025-11-15T18:40:08Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: I follow mnt like you do, I subscribe to the framework newsletter, which is somewhat meh after mnt do their thing. its getting more and more appealing to me really. only thing that gives framework a plus point here is basically performance. I also try to look at linmod on fediverse. not really that usefull, but sometimes theres some cool news on linux-mobile
[2025-11-15T18:40:19Z] <sad_plan> I also tried to start using webdump, which might be your cup of tea
[2025-11-15T18:40:59Z] <midfavila> sad_plan: did you see some of mnt's newer modules?
[2025-11-15T18:41:05Z] <midfavila> w/ like 32gb of memory and stuff?
[2025-11-15T18:41:11Z] <sad_plan> https://git.codemadness.org/webdump
[2025-11-15T18:41:21Z] <sad_plan> the quasar or w/e it was called?
[2025-11-15T18:42:07Z] <sad_plan> if so, saw minute got displayport working recently, I think. unless it was hdmi, I dont recall
[2025-11-15T18:42:24Z] <midfavila> not sure tbqh
[2025-11-15T18:42:30Z] <midfavila> i'm sticking with my OG imx8mq
[2025-11-15T18:42:48Z] <midfavila> not super powerful but it's efficient and well supported
[2025-11-15T18:43:10Z] <sad_plan> the rk3588 does have 16/32gb of ram though, not 100% about the specs on the quasar chips
[2025-11-15T18:43:29Z] <sad_plan> would be cool to have that one, so that I could run 9front on bare metal
[2025-11-15T18:46:52Z] <midfavila> i've considered running 9front but i think for now i can tolerate unix 
[2025-11-15T18:47:14Z] <sad_plan> also, i try to somewhat keep up with *socalled* cyberdecks.. I know you dont like the term, and Im kinda iffy about it too, but sometimes something cool appears, like the hackberrypi. 
[2025-11-15T18:47:41Z] <sad_plan> appart from the hackberrypi, theyre always so damn expensive, and is quite often rather useless to me
[2025-11-15T18:47:49Z] <midfavila> hackberry is just a knockoff of beepy isn't it?
[2025-11-15T18:47:50Z] <sad_plan> theyre cool looking though, at times anyway
[2025-11-15T18:48:16Z] <sad_plan> they have some semblence, yes, dunno if the dev based it on the beepy though
[2025-11-15T18:48:38Z] <sad_plan> theyre fairly similar though
[2025-11-15T18:49:20Z] <sad_plan> I dont belive the beepy was available for very long actually. I couldnt really find it for sale anywhere really
[2025-11-15T18:49:36Z] <midfavila> yeah it was a one-off thing
[2025-11-15T18:49:44Z] <midfavila> there are some people working on an improved successor 
[2025-11-15T18:49:48Z] <midfavila> the beepis or whatever
[2025-11-15T18:49:53Z] <sad_plan> yeah, seemed like it
[2025-11-15T18:49:56Z] <sad_plan> really? interesting
[2025-11-15T18:50:02Z] <midfavila> https://bbkb-community.github.io/computers/beepis/
[2025-11-15T18:50:17Z] <sad_plan> oh, and I saw another somewhat similar thing the other day, ill give you a link aswell
[2025-11-15T18:50:35Z] <midfavila> sure
[2025-11-15T18:50:50Z] <midfavila> i like the uconsole in theory but in practice the lack of vendor support is frustrating
[2025-11-15T18:51:11Z] <midfavila> and if i'm just going to smack a fucking raspberry pi into it i'm going to get a beepis 
[2025-11-15T18:54:45Z] <sad_plan> uhm, I cant seem to find the direct link in a hurry, but it was made by solderpart. it was the keepdeck. it seems they mainly produce small keyboard, and now theyre working on a cyberdeck device, something similar to hackberrypi/uconsole formfactor
[2025-11-15T18:55:10Z] <sad_plan> the beepis could be cool though
[2025-11-15T18:56:55Z] <midfavila> https://www.solder.party/keeb/
[2025-11-15T18:56:57Z] <midfavila> ?
[2025-11-15T18:57:21Z] <sad_plan> that was the exact page I was looking for
[2025-11-15T18:57:55Z] <sad_plan> was mainly refering to the keepdeckSP here, which seems similar to uconsole/hackberry pi
[2025-11-15T18:59:21Z] <midfavila> https://nicolaielectronics.nl/tanmatsu/
[2025-11-15T18:59:23Z] <midfavila> check this out
[2025-11-15T18:59:30Z] <midfavila> pocket-sized esp32-based terminal
[2025-11-15T18:59:34Z] <midfavila> uses one of those keeb modules
[2025-11-15T19:00:34Z] <sad_plan> I was just gonna mentioned that it really looked like one pictured on keeb, which was exacly one. looks cool
[2025-11-15T19:01:45Z] <midfavila> https://www.solder.party/keeb/keebdeck_sp.jpg
[2025-11-15T19:01:47Z] <midfavila> yeah this
[2025-11-15T19:01:49Z] <midfavila> this is neat
[2025-11-15T19:01:51Z] <sad_plan> I could see myself getting my hand on such a device. this formfactor does at the very least appeal to me, that is, if the price isnt unreasonable here
[2025-11-15T19:01:54Z] <sad_plan> yep
[2025-11-15T19:02:04Z] <midfavila> idk i can't see it being more than a couple hundred bucks
[2025-11-15T19:02:06Z] <sad_plan> seems that the tanmatsu uses a ris-v cpu, which is cool
[2025-11-15T19:02:16Z] <midfavila> the thing that bothers *me* is that everything uses rasp pi stuff
[2025-11-15T19:02:22Z] <midfavila> and they aren't open source
[2025-11-15T19:02:23Z] <sad_plan> likely 100-200 someplace im guessing
[2025-11-15T19:02:30Z] <sad_plan> I get that
[2025-11-15T19:03:08Z] <midfavila> like i get that the rpi has its ups but
[2025-11-15T19:03:15Z] <midfavila> you can't even use it without proprietary blobs
[2025-11-15T19:03:19Z] <midfavila> it's not exactly open
[2025-11-15T19:03:22Z] <dery> oh btw mid
[2025-11-15T19:03:26Z] <midfavila> wa
[2025-11-15T19:03:29Z] <dery> https://elpis.ws/cgi-bin/cms/articles
[2025-11-15T19:03:36Z] <dery> a smolnet magazine, no idea how it is
[2025-11-15T19:03:40Z] <dery> there should be another one somewhere
[2025-11-15T19:03:57Z] <sad_plan> i know, its sad thats the case, but atleast it has a really large community, which is nice imo
[2025-11-15T19:04:22Z] <dery> yes it is on http but it labels itself as that
[2025-11-15T19:04:30Z] <dery> again I never read it
[2025-11-15T19:05:12Z] <midfavila> eh
[2025-11-15T19:05:17Z] <midfavila> doesn't look interesting to me tbh
[2025-11-15T19:05:24Z] <midfavila> but i appreciate sending it to me
[2025-11-15T19:07:31Z] <dery> no worries
[2025-11-15T19:08:00Z] <dery> unfortunately it's very hard to find what you're thinking about. I know that, cause I'm in the same boat :P
[2025-11-15T19:08:34Z] <dery> I think the ideal is very much in line with what 100r do, but obviously there's only so much you can document
[2025-11-15T19:08:47Z] <dery> they have a bunch of resources like their wiki documenting what they do though, like solar cooking, which is very nice
[2025-11-15T19:16:27Z] <sad_plan> I really enjoy 100r's stuff. ive not yet found much of a usecase for uxn stuff, but ive been meaning to look more into it
[2025-11-15T20:05:59Z] <esotericwarfare> why I cannot use tor with libera.chat?
[2025-11-15T20:40:29Z] <Ozymandias42> you can? there's docs on how to do it?
[2025-11-15T20:48:22Z] <midfavila> uh oh tor fight
[2025-11-15T20:53:36Z] <sad_plan> esotericwarfare: here https://libera.chat/guides/connect#accessing-liberachat-via-tor
[2025-11-15T20:53:49Z] <sad_plan> ^ Ozymandias42 
[2025-11-15T21:09:54Z] <esotericwarfare> thanks sad_plan 
[2025-11-15T23:19:24Z] <kris_> sad_plan: i do not have cat ears