[2025-12-14T01:43:31Z] <elisoli> where do I put my kiss hooks?
[2025-12-14T01:46:31Z] <elisoli> nvm
[2025-12-14T01:47:39Z] <elisoli> wait
[2025-12-14T01:47:58Z] <elisoli> are these hooks supposed to be configured for the package manager for individual packages?
[2025-12-14T03:58:30Z] <midfavila> man i really wanna get the ploopy headphones but not knowing if i can drive them with a xonar sound card is really making me indecisive...
[2025-12-14T04:09:28Z] <kris_> the what now
[2025-12-14T04:09:38Z] <kris_> silly headphone
[2025-12-14T04:10:27Z] <midfavila> open source headphone/dac/amp design
[2025-12-14T04:10:42Z] <midfavila> one of my goals is to only buy new hardware when it's open source, as much as possible
[2025-12-14T04:10:50Z] <kris_> just such a silly name
[2025-12-14T04:10:58Z] <midfavila> that's intentional
[2025-12-14T04:11:01Z] <midfavila> it's the company name
[2025-12-14T04:11:03Z] <kris_> what the fuck they actually measure fairly well
[2025-12-14T04:11:13Z] <midfavila> also i didn't get the headphones i got the trackball and mouse instead
[2025-12-14T04:11:28Z] <midfavila> also yeah idk why you're surprised
[2025-12-14T04:11:40Z] <midfavila> people will always outdo private corporations when it comes to passion projects
[2025-12-14T04:11:45Z] <kris_> because headphones that roughly match that target are like $5000
[2025-12-14T04:11:50Z] <kris_> $3k at a minimum
[2025-12-14T04:11:54Z] <midfavila> yeah welcome to capitalism
[2025-12-14T04:11:55Z] <kris_> obviously its a fake price
[2025-12-14T04:11:57Z] <kris_> but still
[2025-12-14T04:12:00Z] <midfavila> where use value and market value have no relation
[2025-12-14T04:12:51Z] <kris_> i dont like that they're usb
[2025-12-14T04:12:56Z] <midfavila> neither do i
[2025-12-14T04:12:59Z] <midfavila> that's why i'm not getting them
[2025-12-14T04:13:00Z] <kris_> id probably not buy these just because of that alone 
[2025-12-14T04:13:02Z] <kris_> it's idiotic
[2025-12-14T04:13:05Z] <midfavila> not quite
[2025-12-14T04:13:06Z] <kris_> i have a whole standalone dacamp i want to use
[2025-12-14T04:13:07Z] <midfavila> i get why
[2025-12-14T04:13:20Z] <midfavila> all their stuff is achievable because they designed the dac to go with it *specifically*
[2025-12-14T04:13:28Z] <midfavila> so i get it to some degree but it's not for me
[2025-12-14T04:13:30Z] <kris_> so its hardware EQ
[2025-12-14T04:13:33Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-12-14T04:13:36Z] <kris_> that's how they're achieving that frequency response
[2025-12-14T04:13:37Z] <kris_> i see
[2025-12-14T04:13:48Z] <kris_> the reason the big boy headphones that hit that harman target cost so much is because its done without EQ
[2025-12-14T04:13:54Z] <midfavila> configured in software, but the TI processor in the DAC does a lot of the heavy lifting 
[2025-12-14T04:14:35Z] <midfavila> if i had the tools to do it i would probably just make a variable openmod 2
[2025-12-14T04:14:47Z] <midfavila> they seem like decent enough headphones
[2025-12-14T04:16:00Z] <midfavila> gonna fuggin
[2025-12-14T04:16:02Z] <midfavila> save up some money
[2025-12-14T04:16:09Z] <kris_> idk if i have to configure headphones in software i view them as ewaste personally just because i dont want to deal with it
[2025-12-14T04:16:09Z] <midfavila> mill replacement buttons and chassis for these bad boys
[2025-12-14T04:16:11Z] <midfavila> hell yeah
[2025-12-14T04:16:29Z] <kris_> but if these are hitting that frequency response out of the box i guess theres ideally no need for software at all
[2025-12-14T04:16:39Z] <midfavila> yeah that's the standard
[2025-12-14T04:16:46Z] <midfavila> it's just for tinkering if that's your special interest or w/e
[2025-12-14T04:17:25Z] <kris_> ploopy lmao
[2025-12-14T04:17:33Z] <midfavila> "heehee it's like poopy"
[2025-12-14T04:17:37Z] <midfavila> literal 3 year old
[2025-12-14T04:17:40Z] <midfavila> istg
[2025-12-14T04:18:37Z] <kris_> its pretty funny
[2025-12-14T04:18:49Z] <midfavila> = w=
[2025-12-14T04:19:09Z] <midfavila> also i bought new shit for my shoes today >:OOOOOOOOO
[2025-12-14T04:19:14Z] <midfavila> i got slip-on cleats
[2025-12-14T04:19:17Z] <midfavila> literally lifechanging
[2025-12-14T04:19:36Z] <midfavila> these like, studded, skeletonised rubber overshoes
[2025-12-14T04:19:52Z] <midfavila> best thirty bucks i've ever spent
[2025-12-14T04:20:02Z] <midfavila> AND
[2025-12-14T04:20:13Z] <midfavila> i got a proper set of brushes for polishing my boots
[2025-12-14T04:20:28Z] <kris_> these ploopy butt headphones would look really nice if it wasnt for that silly headband
[2025-12-14T04:20:33Z] <kris_> though obviously im certain you can just replace it
[2025-12-14T04:20:37Z] <midfavila> 3D print a different one 
[2025-12-14T04:20:38Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-12-14T04:20:48Z] <midfavila> all the schematics and source code is freely available
[2025-12-14T04:20:48Z] <midfavila> so
[2025-12-14T04:20:59Z] <kris_> dirty sock looking headband
[2025-12-14T04:21:07Z] <midfavila> you look like a dirty sock
[2025-12-14T04:21:10Z] <kris_> these seem really cool though
[2025-12-14T04:21:16Z] <kris_> they're cheeeeaaaap
[2025-12-14T04:21:17Z] <midfavila> yeah open source hardware is the shit
[2025-12-14T04:21:47Z] <midfavila> turns out that when you aren't gussying shit up with fancy brand names and marketing and paying 9 quadrillion dollars a milisecond to shareholders you can get great results for very low cost
[2025-12-14T04:21:59Z] <kris_> honestly as a direct result of 3d printers
[2025-12-14T04:22:03Z] <kris_> the power to create:tm:
[2025-12-14T04:22:09Z] <midfavila> 3d printers are huge yes
[2025-12-14T04:22:21Z] <midfavila> there have been a lot of very rapid advancements in small scale production techniques over the past decade
[2025-12-14T04:22:48Z] <midfavila> i was watching a video earlier about a guy who makes 3D printed molds for casting steel
[2025-12-14T04:22:51Z] <midfavila> works really well
[2025-12-14T04:23:13Z] <midfavila> he'll like, print out a negative of whatever he wants, then make a sand mould using it, and cast that
[2025-12-14T04:23:26Z] <midfavila> really low cost way to get decent enough metallic components even if it's a bit labour intensive
[2025-12-14T04:24:03Z] <midfavila> i can see a lot of practical applications for it, since it seems like the main thing keeping 3D printers from becoming more viable for everyday stuff is the properties of thermoplastics
[2025-12-14T04:24:11Z] <kris_> yeah ive done that before with an ant hill and some melted aluminum cans
[2025-12-14T04:25:40Z] <kris_> this company name is so silly
[2025-12-14T04:25:42Z] <kris_> that's incredible marketing
[2025-12-14T04:26:43Z] <midfavila> kris_: but now you can make those cans into an arbitrary shape
[2025-12-14T04:26:46Z] <midfavila> like
[2025-12-14T04:26:49Z] <midfavila> a hammer
[2025-12-14T04:26:50Z] <midfavila> or
[2025-12-14T04:26:53Z] <midfavila> scissors
[2025-12-14T04:26:53Z] <midfavila> or
[2025-12-14T04:26:55Z] <midfavila> a knife
[2025-12-14T04:27:02Z] <midfavila> or just some really nice bookends
[2025-12-14T04:27:28Z] <kris_> casting isnt really new to me
[2025-12-14T04:27:35Z] <kris_> most people use foam that collapses quickly under heat and just cut it to shape
[2025-12-14T04:27:39Z] <kris_> and then sand cast it as per usual
[2025-12-14T04:27:54Z] <kris_> 3d printing definitely makes that a lot better though
[2025-12-14T04:28:22Z] <midfavila> i'm not saying casting is revolutionary lol
[2025-12-14T04:28:41Z] <midfavila> just that combining it with 3D printing could make the applications of 3D printing far greater
[2025-12-14T04:29:28Z] <midfavila> also do you play warframe
[2025-12-14T04:29:39Z] <kris_> no
[2025-12-14T04:29:44Z] <midfavila> darn
[2025-12-14T04:29:56Z] <midfavila> i'm kind of losing my mind about the latest playable character(?)
[2025-12-14T04:29:59Z] <midfavila> he has a TAIL 
[2025-12-14T04:30:07Z] <midfavila> instantly 300% more appealing
[2025-12-14T04:30:08Z] <kris_> you have a tail
[2025-12-14T04:30:09Z] <kris_> dumbass
[2025-12-14T04:30:21Z] <midfavila> yes that's what makes it appealing 
[2025-12-14T04:30:23Z] <kris_> but uh i think i tried warframe once when it was brand nedw
[2025-12-14T04:30:24Z] <kris_> new
[2025-12-14T04:30:27Z] <midfavila> this is REPRESENTATION 
[2025-12-14T04:30:31Z] <kris_> it didnt really click but i only played for like 2 hours
[2025-12-14T04:30:42Z] <kris_> or rather not "click" but didnt capture me
[2025-12-14T04:30:55Z] <midfavila> also since uriel (new guy) is based off the traditional depiction of the devil that sort of indirectly means he's based on goats
[2025-12-14T04:31:04Z] <midfavila> which is AWESOME because that means there are TWO goat-themed warframes
[2025-12-14T04:31:08Z] <midfavila> and the OTHER one is a paladin
[2025-12-14T04:31:13Z] <midfavila> so you have like dualistic shit going on
[2025-12-14T04:31:15Z] <midfavila> and that's cool
[2025-12-14T04:31:35Z] <midfavila> 'he's just like me frfr!!!'
[2025-12-14T04:33:05Z] <midfavila> also at the end of the latest quest you legitimately go full columbine
[2025-12-14T04:33:10Z] <midfavila> DE has been completely unhinged lately
[2025-12-14T04:33:12Z] <kris_> goat?
[2025-12-14T04:33:15Z] <kris_> is your fursona a goat?
[2025-12-14T04:33:18Z] <midfavila> ye
[2025-12-14T04:33:18Z] <midfavila> :3
[2025-12-14T04:35:20Z] <midfavila> the government should pay me to play warframe because it's canadian content
[2025-12-14T04:35:29Z] <midfavila> unironically
[2025-12-14T04:35:52Z] <midfavila> we already mandate people play a certain amount of canadian media on the tv and radio and shit because muh muh american cultural influence but we don't do SHIT for my bingbongs
[2025-12-14T04:36:03Z] <midfavila> or like what about uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[2025-12-14T04:36:08Z] <midfavila> kris_: balatro is popular right
[2025-12-14T04:36:15Z] <kris_> quite
[2025-12-14T04:36:21Z] <midfavila> yeah pay people to play balatro
[2025-12-14T04:36:25Z] <kris_> i know it mostly because it was made with love2d
[2025-12-14T04:36:28Z] <midfavila> some guy in ontario or bc or w/e made it
[2025-12-14T04:36:41Z] <midfavila> or like give 'em a fuckin tax credit or whatever
[2025-12-14T04:36:48Z] <kris_> thing is
[2025-12-14T04:37:03Z] <kris_> one of my canadian homies over on discord is trying his best to move to the united states at the moment because he wants to "create generational wealth"
[2025-12-14T04:37:07Z] <kris_> and can't do that in canada
[2025-12-14T04:37:12Z] <midfavila> fuck that guy then
[2025-12-14T04:37:15Z] <midfavila> we don't want 'em
[2025-12-14T04:37:25Z] <kris_> he's a bit silly but he's fren
[2025-12-14T04:37:37Z] <midfavila> he's trying to move to *AMERICA*
[2025-12-14T04:37:45Z] <midfavila> you don't *get it*
[2025-12-14T04:37:54Z] <kris_> he's here on a regular basis for pentesting conventions and whatnot
[2025-12-14T04:37:55Z] <midfavila> that's like saying we should privatise medicare
[2025-12-14T04:38:00Z] <midfavila> but like, worse
[2025-12-14T04:38:10Z] <kris_> idk he's going places
[2025-12-14T04:38:14Z] <kris_> unbelievably talented
[2025-12-14T04:38:32Z] <kris_> he is a true hecker
[2025-12-14T04:38:54Z] <midfavila> no such thing as talent
[2025-12-14T04:38:56Z] * midfavila sniffs
[2025-12-14T04:39:04Z] <kris_> okay then
[2025-12-14T04:39:05Z] <kris_> MID
[2025-12-14T04:39:07Z] <kris_> he's good at what he DOES
[2025-12-14T04:39:10Z] <kris_> he's SKILLED
[2025-12-14T04:39:14Z] <kris_> hecKERMAN
[2025-12-14T04:39:35Z] <midfavila> i knew a few people who were 'talented' in high school and all that meant was that they had the resources they needed to succeed given to them
[2025-12-14T04:39:48Z] <midfavila> it's an important distinction to make.
[2025-12-14T04:39:49Z] <kris_> i was one of the special kids in school and then burned out immediately
[2025-12-14T04:39:54Z] <kris_> special as in "talented"
[2025-12-14T04:40:10Z] <kris_> once i hit highschool i was in my degenerate arc
[2025-12-14T04:40:16Z] <midfavila> yeah so was i until i had to get a fuckin job 
[2025-12-14T04:40:26Z] <kris_> i set the bar too high for myself and then people weren't satisfied with what i was doing anymore
[2025-12-14T04:40:47Z] <kris_> because my progression halted when i was like 13
[2025-12-14T04:41:11Z] <kris_> i find it's best if people assume i'm an idiot so their bar for what they expect from me is as low as possible
[2025-12-14T04:41:40Z] <midfavila> i just don't care any more
[2025-12-14T04:41:43Z] <midfavila> people get what they get
[2025-12-14T04:41:48Z] <midfavila> if they don't like it they can fuck off
[2025-12-14T04:41:59Z] <kris_> valid
[2025-12-14T04:42:03Z] <midfavila> doesn't mean i won't put my best foot forward but if it's not to your liking that's not really my problem
[2025-12-14T04:42:11Z] <kris_> my biggest flaw is how much i crave approval or encouragement from other people
[2025-12-14T04:42:17Z] <kris_> once that stopped i stopped trying
[2025-12-14T04:42:35Z] <midfavila> i used to sort of be similar until i realised that most people assume you start from the same place they do 
[2025-12-14T04:43:06Z] <kris_> nobody really knew anything about me in that era
[2025-12-14T04:43:15Z] <kris_> i was seen as the "rich kid" as i was sleeping on the floor because no bed
[2025-12-14T04:43:24Z] <kris_> because i had semi decent clothes and my own computer
[2025-12-14T04:43:46Z] <kris_> **anyway**
[2025-12-14T04:44:02Z] <kris_> for some reason an unbelievable amount of people i know in the foss community are really into warframe and im not really sure what causes that
[2025-12-14T04:44:27Z] <midfavila> autism
[2025-12-14T04:44:28Z] <midfavila> unironically
[2025-12-14T04:44:38Z] <midfavila> i can say that because it applies to both for me
[2025-12-14T04:44:47Z] <midfavila> warframe scratches the same itch for me that KISS does
[2025-12-14T04:44:55Z] <midfavila> i get to just fuckin tinker with numbers all day 
[2025-12-14T04:45:01Z] <midfavila> real shit
[2025-12-14T04:45:07Z] <kris_> i fucking adore dayz
[2025-12-14T04:45:08Z] <kris_> that's my game
[2025-12-14T04:45:59Z] <midfavila> see i could never get into that
[2025-12-14T04:46:11Z] <kris_> i hate to be that guy but itll upset you too much
[2025-12-14T04:46:11Z] <midfavila> only game i play that's even remotely comparable ig is cataclysm
[2025-12-14T04:46:14Z] <kris_> i dont think you're compatible with dayz
[2025-12-14T04:46:17Z] <kris_> or how you have to be to play dayz
[2025-12-14T04:46:22Z] <midfavila> probably
[2025-12-14T04:46:28Z] <kris_> i kill on sight in dayz
[2025-12-14T04:46:30Z] <midfavila> i am SOFT and EASILY BRUISED
[2025-12-14T04:46:37Z] <kris_> yes it sets people back by potentially 8 hours or more in like 20 seconds
[2025-12-14T04:46:39Z] <kris_> they start over from 0
[2025-12-14T04:46:43Z] <kris_> but i shoot on sight because if i dont they will
[2025-12-14T04:46:47Z] <midfavila> yeah that sounds like a shit game
[2025-12-14T04:46:48Z] <midfavila> to me
[2025-12-14T04:46:51Z] <kris_> very rarely do people in that game be nice to eachother
[2025-12-14T04:46:56Z] <midfavila> i would be nice
[2025-12-14T04:46:57Z] <midfavila> :c
[2025-12-14T04:47:07Z] <midfavila> all i wanna do is build a house and bake bread 
[2025-12-14T04:47:08Z] <kris_> yeah and you know where that's gonna get you"
[2025-12-14T04:47:11Z] <kris_> respawning
[2025-12-14T04:47:23Z] <midfavila> SOMEONE has to break the cycle of hatred kris
[2025-12-14T04:47:28Z] <kris_> its not an issue with YOU its an issue with the collective
[2025-12-14T04:47:40Z] <kris_> the standard thing to do on dayz is to wait until the other person trusts you enough to turn their back so you can pull your gun before they can react
[2025-12-14T04:47:45Z] <kris_> if you dont shoot them immediately
[2025-12-14T04:47:48Z] <kris_> and then you take their shit and carry on
[2025-12-14T04:47:52Z] <midfavila> i will bear the burden of the collective myself 
[2025-12-14T04:48:10Z] <kris_> on the server i play on though theres this specific guy that if anyone fucks with them the entire server will hunt them the fuck down
[2025-12-14T04:48:27Z] <kris_> there's this guy who sits at the coast where freshies spawn in and just grows crops and gives them away for free so people dont starve to death as they're trying to get set up
[2025-12-14T04:48:39Z] <kris_> he's amazing
[2025-12-14T04:48:45Z] <kris_> everyone has collectively agreed we don't shoot at tomato guy
[2025-12-14T04:49:32Z] <midfavila> i would be tomato guy 2
[2025-12-14T04:49:38Z] <kris_> or just go help tomato guy out
[2025-12-14T04:49:54Z] <kris_> usually i try to swing by and leave some stuff for him if he's online
[2025-12-14T04:49:57Z] <kris_> guns and whatnot
[2025-12-14T04:50:05Z] <kris_> so if someone tries to fuck him up he can unload
[2025-12-14T04:51:54Z] <midfavila> ye
[2025-12-14T04:52:26Z] <kris_> but the fun part of dayz to me is how it feels like legitimate survival
[2025-12-14T04:52:45Z] <kris_> and how it's constantly nerve wracking because if you dont pay attention you could die in a split second from some asshole sitting 2km away in a bush with a ghillie suit on
[2025-12-14T04:53:37Z] <kris_> the last time i got on i accidentally started a cult
[2025-12-14T04:53:56Z] <kris_> basically i spawned in fresh and this guy ran up to me and kinda just stuck with me for like half an hour and then another person joined our little group of freshies
[2025-12-14T04:54:00Z] <kris_> and then eventually it grew to like 13 people
[2025-12-14T04:54:12Z] <kris_> like just an absolute mob moving as a unit, none of us knew eachother at all, it was ridiculous
[2025-12-14T04:56:57Z] <kris_> midfavila: have you heard of nakara bladepoint
[2025-12-14T04:57:05Z] <kris_> some battle royale a few of my friends are playing
[2025-12-14T05:10:10Z] <kris_> naraka*
[2025-12-14T07:58:01Z] <midfavila> kris_: no
[2025-12-14T07:58:07Z] <midfavila> sorry i'm lookin' at furniture and stuff
[2025-12-14T08:07:19Z] <kris_> midfavila: is forgivne
[2025-12-14T08:07:42Z] <midfavila> ye
[2025-12-14T08:08:06Z] <midfavila> i would go to some of the secondhand stores around here but that's been fucking ruined by the kids and their tiktoks
[2025-12-14T08:08:17Z] <kris_> ?
[2025-12-14T08:08:31Z] <midfavila> that and sigma hashtag grindsetters who go act as pickers and buy anything half decent to resell for 10x the price
[2025-12-14T08:08:38Z] <midfavila> kris_: didn't you know that vintage is in
[2025-12-14T08:08:45Z] <midfavila> and thrifting is cool now
[2025-12-14T08:08:59Z] <midfavila> it's so FUCKING trendy to go buy shit from shops meant for the poors
[2025-12-14T08:09:17Z] <midfavila> i can't even get my tinned fish any more because now that's a "luxury pantry staple"
[2025-12-14T08:09:23Z] * midfavila seethes
[2025-12-14T08:09:41Z] <midfavila> a SINGLE TIN of sardines is up to FOUR FUCKIN DOLLARS when it was barely a dollar a year ago
[2025-12-14T08:09:49Z] <midfavila> fuckin hell
[2025-12-14T08:10:16Z] <midfavila> *anyway* it's okay because i found a sheet metal dresser online for like 200 maple rubles which is about .000000002usd
[2025-12-14T08:11:06Z] <midfavila> now tell me about your bingbongs
[2025-12-14T08:11:10Z] <midfavila> your bibeo bames
[2025-12-14T08:11:20Z] <midfavila> fuckin uhh
[2025-12-14T08:11:27Z] <midfavila> valorant or whatever
[2025-12-14T08:11:29Z] <midfavila> - w-
[2025-12-14T08:11:41Z] <kris_> thrifting has always been cool
[2025-12-14T08:11:43Z] <kris_> (to me)
[2025-12-14T08:11:57Z] <kris_> i used to wander in and not buy anything just because i wanted to see all of the cool stuff they had like ps2s and ipods and psps and shit
[2025-12-14T08:11:59Z] <midfavila> the problem is that it's trendy among the so-called 'middle class' now >:C
[2025-12-14T08:12:19Z] <midfavila> the fact that it's even considered popular is enough to jack up prices
[2025-12-14T08:12:26Z] <kris_> also i dont play valorant
[2025-12-14T08:12:33Z] <kris_> i used to but just because a girl i was interested in did
[2025-12-14T08:13:19Z] <midfavila> i have heard that valorant is basically just a dating app for nerds
[2025-12-14T08:13:31Z] <kris_> i met her external to valorant she just happened to play valorant
[2025-12-14T08:13:39Z] <kris_> i didnt play for very long because like
[2025-12-14T08:13:46Z] <kris_> i need to be careful how i say this because im gonna sound like a douchebag
[2025-12-14T08:14:00Z] <midfavila> because it's shit?
[2025-12-14T08:14:07Z] <kris_> i already had like 4000 hours on cs:go at that time and outranked my entire group in like a month
[2025-12-14T08:14:09Z] <kris_> and could no longer queue with them
[2025-12-14T08:14:16Z] <kris_> because valorant is fucking easy
[2025-12-14T08:14:16Z] <midfavila> oh
[2025-12-14T08:14:17Z] <midfavila> that too
[2025-12-14T08:14:38Z] <kris_> and yeah its also shit
[2025-12-14T08:14:42Z] <kris_> the community is interesting
[2025-12-14T08:14:52Z] <kris_> cs:go (my family) and valorant players (my not family) are polar opposites
[2025-12-14T08:15:01Z] <kris_> especially with how the communities treat women, its very interesting
[2025-12-14T08:15:23Z] <kris_> valorant players are all simps and edaters and everyone is like uncomfortably horned up
[2025-12-14T08:15:32Z] <kris_> on cs:go its tradition to kick women as soon as you find out they're women from your games
[2025-12-14T08:15:48Z] <midfavila> so basically incels and incels
[2025-12-14T08:15:51Z] <kris_> yep
[2025-12-14T08:15:58Z] <midfavila> checks out
[2025-12-14T08:16:07Z] <kris_> csgo is 4chan
[2025-12-14T08:16:10Z] <kris_> valorant is tiktok
[2025-12-14T08:16:30Z] <kris_> recently ive been being a stinker on cs though
[2025-12-14T08:16:34Z] <midfavila> warframe is pretty relaxed
[2025-12-14T08:16:54Z] <kris_> ive just been teamkilling people who wont stop saying slurs
[2025-12-14T08:16:59Z] <kris_> and then they flip out *always*
[2025-12-14T08:17:04Z] <kris_> they like have an immediate mental breakdown
[2025-12-14T08:17:16Z] <kris_> its hilarious tbh
[2025-12-14T08:17:58Z] <kris_> also maybe ill try warframe, im not sure if it's my type of game
[2025-12-14T08:18:03Z] <midfavila> it's not
[2025-12-14T08:18:12Z] <midfavila> you would probably find it boring
[2025-12-14T08:18:22Z] <kris_> if its singleplayer focused i absolutely will
[2025-12-14T08:18:26Z] <kris_> i play games for social interaction more than anything
[2025-12-14T08:18:30Z] <midfavila> it's not
[2025-12-14T08:18:37Z] <midfavila> it's a squad-based looter-shooter 
[2025-12-14T08:19:14Z] <midfavila> with RPG elements and a combination of session-based pseudorandomly generated missions and consistent open worlds
[2025-12-14T08:19:32Z] <kris_> sounds like it might be fun 
[2025-12-14T08:19:52Z] <midfavila> i mean i like it
[2025-12-14T08:19:56Z] <midfavila> i have 1700 hours in it
[2025-12-14T08:20:20Z] <kris_> out of my steam games on my main account i only have that many or more on cs
[2025-12-14T08:20:32Z] <kris_> 4374hrs on my main account at the moment, probably 4-5k on my alts
[2025-12-14T08:20:39Z] <midfavila> the biggest issue i have with warframe is that there's a lot of content accretion 
[2025-12-14T08:20:43Z] <kris_> second place game is cod waw at 165hrs
[2025-12-14T08:21:03Z] <midfavila> by that i mean that the devs will implement some shit, go "this is going to revolutionise warframe", and then immediately move on to the next thing
[2025-12-14T08:21:17Z] <midfavila> there's not enough connective tissue or polish 
[2025-12-14T08:21:22Z] <kris_> kinda lame
[2025-12-14T08:21:32Z] <sewn> دث
[2025-12-14T08:21:33Z] <midfavila> yeah it is but the core game is fun and the areas are good on their own
[2025-12-14T08:21:35Z] <sewn> meow*
[2025-12-14T08:21:41Z] <kris_> no way its sewn
[2025-12-14T08:21:42Z] <midfavila> it would just be better if it was tied together
[2025-12-14T08:21:49Z] <sewn> picking up a rental
[2025-12-14T08:21:57Z] * midfavila patpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpatpats sewn's head
[2025-12-14T08:22:02Z] <midfavila> don't crash it
[2025-12-14T08:22:02Z] <sewn> waaaaahhhhh
[2025-12-14T08:22:07Z] <sewn> I won't :3
[2025-12-14T08:22:14Z] <midfavila> no drag racing either
[2025-12-14T08:22:14Z] <kris_> i miss wizard101 from like 2014
[2025-12-14T08:22:22Z] <kris_> im not really sure if i miss wizard101 or if i miss liking it
[2025-12-14T08:22:26Z] <kris_> have i changed or has the game
[2025-12-14T08:22:27Z] <kris_> :thonk:
[2025-12-14T08:22:47Z] <midfavila> oh
[2025-12-14T08:22:54Z] <midfavila> warframe also has really bad power scaling 
[2025-12-14T08:23:10Z] <kris_> i have heard that yeah
[2025-12-14T08:23:20Z] <midfavila> so you'll get some stuff that's pretty solid in the start and then by the time you get to the end of the game there's nothing to replace it but it's totally obsolete
[2025-12-14T08:23:30Z] <midfavila> a prime example of both this and content accretion is kitguns
[2025-12-14T08:23:44Z] <midfavila> kitguns are a now-early unlocked system to allow you to build primary and secondary weapons
[2025-12-14T08:23:59Z] <midfavila> they were hailed as the next big thing when they came out and they used to be really, really good
[2025-12-14T08:24:10Z] <midfavila> like easily endgame capable with a bit of work put into them
[2025-12-14T08:24:30Z] <midfavila> but then they nerfed the hell out of them and stopped adding anything new
[2025-12-14T08:24:54Z] <midfavila> so if you just want >a rifle or >a shotgun or something, there's nothing decent at higher-level content
[2025-12-14T08:25:13Z] <midfavila> it's even worse once you get to endgame stuff like steel path and archon hunts and stuff
[2025-12-14T08:25:18Z] <midfavila> (ng+ and raids)
[2025-12-14T08:26:33Z] <kris_> obsolete as in its not usable?
[2025-12-14T08:26:40Z] <kris_> im confused by that, if theres nothing to replace it with does that mean theres nothing better
[2025-12-14T08:41:57Z] <midfavila> yes
[2025-12-14T08:42:30Z] <midfavila> there are some weapons with no higher tier equivalent that are functionally useless at higher levels
[2025-12-14T08:46:39Z] <midfavila> if the weapons in warframe were as simple as >smg
[2025-12-14T08:46:42Z] <midfavila> or >shotgun
[2025-12-14T08:46:51Z] <midfavila> then it wouldn't be a huge issue because you would just use the next shotgun up or w/e
[2025-12-14T08:47:02Z] <midfavila> but a lot of things have extra effects that aren't replicated
[2025-12-14T08:47:11Z] <midfavila> so you're restricted in your gameplay options at higher levels
[2025-12-14T08:48:07Z] <midfavila> it doesn't help that all of my gear is tuned to deal radiation damage which suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks 
[2025-12-14T08:48:19Z] <midfavila> it has an awesome associated status effect but as a type of damage it sucks
[2025-12-14T09:55:17Z] <kris_> yeah i really dont like that from games
[2025-12-14T09:55:20Z] <kris_> its a pretty widespread issue
[2025-12-14T10:01:06Z] <Ozymandias42> morning kris_
[2025-12-14T10:04:04Z] <kris_> Ozymandias42: gm
[2025-12-14T10:04:09Z] <kris_> it's almost bedtime for me
[2025-12-14T10:04:24Z] <Ozymandias42> makes sense. almost a bit late to wish a good morning here too. 11am
[2025-12-14T10:04:43Z] <Ozymandias42> well good night then to you
[2025-12-14T10:09:38Z] <kris_> i dont know when im going to sleep yet but it should probably be soon
[2025-12-14T10:09:46Z] <kris_> just for a nap
[2025-12-14T10:42:55Z] <midfavila> i'll be off to bed now as well
[2025-12-14T10:42:59Z] <midfavila> 5am
[2025-12-14T10:43:04Z] <midfavila> have a good day Ozymandias42 
[2025-12-14T10:43:08Z] <Ozymandias42> gn8 mid o/
[2025-12-14T19:05:02Z] <midfavila> gm