[2025-12-17T08:23:34Z] <kris_> well i live with my family so its not my printer, it's my fathers
[2025-12-17T16:25:53Z] <midfavila> kris_ has truly achieved peak linux user
[2025-12-17T16:26:00Z] <midfavila> finally you can print from loonix
[2025-12-17T16:31:04Z] <midfavila> god i hope the AI bubble bursts soon
[2025-12-17T16:31:29Z] <midfavila> if i get one more ad for generative bullshit i'm going to go full luddite
[2025-12-17T18:46:16Z] <midfavila> kris_: when are we getting krisgpt
[2025-12-17T21:41:48Z] <kris_> midfavila: what
[2025-12-17T21:49:44Z] <dery> kris_: we're going to take your conciousness and put it into a chatbot
[2025-12-17T21:51:39Z] <kris_> this is problematic
[2025-12-17T21:52:01Z] <kris_> one of my favorite games ever is getting remastered and im so excited
[2025-12-17T21:52:08Z] <kris_> it seems like the devs are doing a decent job
[2025-12-17T21:52:23Z] <kris_> did any of you play gunz back in the day
[2025-12-17T21:52:24Z] <dery> what gmae
[2025-12-17T21:52:34Z] <dery> >back in the day
[2025-12-17T21:52:35Z] <dery> how much
[2025-12-17T21:52:40Z] <dery> cause I didn't
[2025-12-17T21:52:43Z] <kris_> i think it quit being a thing officially in like 2013
[2025-12-17T21:52:45Z] <midfavila> derygpt when
[2025-12-17T21:53:01Z] <kris_> its probably the most complex esport game ever in terms of movement
[2025-12-17T21:53:11Z] <midfavila> gunz is a trashfire
[2025-12-17T21:53:11Z] <dery> Damn it's roughly as old as me
[2025-12-17T21:53:11Z] <kris_> carpal tunnel inducing due to kstyle movement
[2025-12-17T21:53:12Z] <midfavila> lol
[2025-12-17T21:53:23Z] <midfavila> dery what 
[2025-12-17T21:53:26Z] <midfavila> wait
[2025-12-17T21:53:26Z] <dery> gunz
[2025-12-17T21:53:27Z] <midfavila> am i old
[2025-12-17T21:53:29Z] <midfavila> fuck
[2025-12-17T21:53:32Z] <kris_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppSU5xeEMdU
[2025-12-17T21:53:33Z] <kris_> watch this
[2025-12-17T21:53:38Z] <kris_> this person is a pretty good kstyler
[2025-12-17T21:53:40Z] <dery> I'm bby
[2025-12-17T21:53:56Z] <kris_> basically kstyle is consists of animation cancels and abusing the game engine and spaghetti code the game had originally
[2025-12-17T21:54:04Z] <kris_> it means "korean style"
[2025-12-17T21:54:07Z] <kris_> because the koreans invented it
[2025-12-17T21:54:22Z] <dery> oh wow looks cool
[2025-12-17T21:54:27Z] <dery> this sounds exactly like my jam
[2025-12-17T21:54:33Z] <dery> advanced movement tech is the way
[2025-12-17T21:54:34Z] <midfavila> just play melee
[2025-12-17T21:54:36Z] <midfavila> smdh
[2025-12-17T21:54:42Z] <dery> it's different
[2025-12-17T21:54:48Z] <kris_> the IP got sold to another company and they're currently remastering it
[2025-12-17T21:54:50Z] <kris_> so far it looks decent
[2025-12-17T21:54:51Z] <midfavila> it's bibeo bame
[2025-12-17T21:54:51Z] <dery> cause it's actually like, good fighter game
[2025-12-17T21:54:56Z] <kris_> like they're doing exactly what we as a community want
[2025-12-17T21:55:01Z] <dery> I don't really jive with "traditional" fighter game
[2025-12-17T21:55:09Z] <dery> s
[2025-12-17T21:55:12Z] <kris_> gunz also really had a really fun quest mode
[2025-12-17T21:55:16Z] <kris_> boss fights and shit as a team
[2025-12-17T21:55:27Z] <dery> nice
[2025-12-17T21:56:07Z] <kris_> gunz is unbelievably sweaty though
[2025-12-17T21:56:20Z] <kris_> like not a single person plays a male player model because the female player models are smaller and therefore slightly harder to aim at
[2025-12-17T21:56:46Z] <midfavila> >when you can tell someone is good at gunz by looking at them
[2025-12-17T21:58:57Z] <kris_> also yes mid gunz is an old ass game
[2025-12-17T21:59:27Z] <kris_> it came out in 2003 in korea
[2025-12-17T21:59:32Z] <kris_> 2006 for the rest of the world
[2025-12-17T22:00:05Z] <kris_> holy fuck im so excited for clans mode to come back
[2025-12-17T22:00:17Z] <sad_plan> kris_: I played gunz back in the day. not a whole lot, but I have played it
[2025-12-17T22:00:18Z] <kris_> basically team vs team competitive games between clans
[2025-12-17T22:00:55Z] <kris_> sad_plan: now we just need combat arms back!
[2025-12-17T22:01:41Z] <kris_> i dont think that one will happen though
[2025-12-17T22:01:59Z] <sad_plan> not familiar with that though
[2025-12-17T22:02:07Z] <kris_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ywt29PIZX4
[2025-12-17T22:02:10Z] <kris_> this is very nostalgic for me
[2025-12-17T22:02:15Z] <kris_> it was a f2p shooter from nexon
[2025-12-17T22:02:33Z] <kris_> also known for its movement as well as its insane amount of unique gamemodes and like 20,000 weapon choices
[2025-12-17T22:02:36Z] <kris_> there wasn't a gun meta really
[2025-12-17T22:02:57Z] <kris_> xxturner was one of the well known CA snipers
[2025-12-17T22:02:58Z] <midfavila> nexon
[2025-12-17T22:03:00Z] <midfavila> more like
[2025-12-17T22:03:02Z] <midfavila> nexoff
[2025-12-17T22:03:12Z] <midfavila> gotem
[2025-12-17T22:03:17Z] <kris_> nexon sucks
[2025-12-17T22:03:28Z] <midfavila> yeah ik
[2025-12-17T22:03:33Z] <kris_> they made a perfectly good game, made it pay to win, killed it, and sold the IP to someone else who just made it worse
[2025-12-17T22:04:15Z] <sad_plan> omg, those commentaries are atrocious. holy fuck kris_ 
[2025-12-17T22:04:39Z] <kris_> what commentaries
[2025-12-17T22:04:58Z] <kris_> the comments on the yt video?
[2025-12-17T22:05:05Z] <sad_plan> "unbeliveable" "fantastic". but mostly unbelevable gets spammed
[2025-12-17T22:05:06Z] <sad_plan> yes
[2025-12-17T22:05:09Z] <kris_> oh that lmfao
[2025-12-17T22:05:14Z] <kris_> it's a product of its time
[2025-12-17T22:05:53Z] <sad_plan> I get that. mortal kombat has something somewhat similar, but at the very least it doesnt get in your way like it does here
[2025-12-17T22:06:33Z] <kris_> CA was mostly known for its quarantine regen gamemode
[2025-12-17T22:06:42Z] <sad_plan> omg, I forgot that gunz has the same tings. just less awefull
[2025-12-17T22:06:44Z] <kris_> basically infected but combat arms movement made it really interesting
[2025-12-17T22:06:46Z] <kris_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwgfMhPURYs
[2025-12-17T22:06:47Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2025-12-17T22:06:53Z] <kris_> watch how this guy moves its nuts
[2025-12-17T22:07:05Z] <sad_plan> ever played total overdose?
[2025-12-17T22:07:09Z] <kris_> i have not
[2025-12-17T22:07:43Z] <sad_plan> its a fun little game. has some of the same movements, just not as fast paced obviosuly. can jump around in slomo and kill everyone
[2025-12-17T22:08:22Z] <sad_plan> I forgot how old it was. its from 2005 lol
[2025-12-17T22:08:44Z] <kris_> given i was 3 in 2005 its unlikely i played it at that time
[2025-12-17T22:08:49Z] <kris_> unless it was also active in like 2010
[2025-12-17T22:09:17Z] <sad_plan> it wsnt. wasnt a hugely popular game tbh. I found it very fun though
[2025-12-17T22:14:59Z] <kris_> biology final tomorrow, politics final also due tomorrow and then i'm done for the semester
[2025-12-17T22:15:18Z] <kris_> month long break, think im going to spend it learning C++
[2025-12-17T22:17:20Z] <midfavila> final exam question is just going to be a big letter R on one side of the paper and a big letter D on the other
[2025-12-17T22:17:44Z] <midfavila> (it's the only question)
[2025-12-17T22:18:12Z] <kris_> final exam is why i was printing things
[2025-12-17T22:18:18Z] <kris_> my philosophy final is like
[2025-12-17T22:18:22Z] <kris_> by 11am tomorrow i need to write 2000 words
[2025-12-17T22:18:25Z] <kris_> on 6 questions
[2025-12-17T22:18:35Z] <sad_plan> kris_: learn rc instead, much less usefull and productive :p
[2025-12-17T22:19:36Z] <kris_> well, one of my fellow devs for a project is the sole C++ maintainer
[2025-12-17T22:19:44Z] <kris_> and that's the primary language and he's been begging someone to help him out for a while
[2025-12-17T22:19:58Z] <kris_> so im learning just to help him/the project out
[2025-12-17T22:20:06Z] <sad_plan> hm, I see
[2025-12-17T22:20:08Z] <kris_> i don't really care for C++, if im writing something in a compiled language it's always going to be go
[2025-12-17T22:20:12Z] <sad_plan> i still think you should learn rc
[2025-12-17T22:20:17Z] <kris_> i also need to learn rust to help someone else out on the same project
[2025-12-17T22:20:36Z] <sad_plan> why do you need to help them thouh? cant they do their own stuff themselves?
[2025-12-17T22:20:43Z] <kris_> it's a very complex project
[2025-12-17T22:20:51Z] <kris_> https://iw4x.io/
[2025-12-17T22:20:55Z] <sad_plan> sounds like a they problem
[2025-12-17T22:21:00Z] <kris_> no its an us problem
[2025-12-17T22:21:04Z] <kris_> given i'm also part of the team for this
[2025-12-17T22:21:53Z] <sad_plan> you forgot to mention that part :p
[2025-12-17T22:22:09Z] <kris_> that's what i meant by "fellow devs for a project"
[2025-12-17T22:22:16Z] <kris_> i probably should have been more explicit
[2025-12-17T22:22:30Z] <sad_plan> yes :p
[2025-12-17T22:22:45Z] <kris_> at the moment i'm just responsible for the discord bot and one of the server utils
[2025-12-17T22:22:51Z] <kris_> so go and python
[2025-12-17T22:22:55Z] <kris_> as of my own choices^ 
[2025-12-17T22:23:44Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2025-12-17T22:26:02Z] <sad_plan> I should get back to learning C though. but I always find myself doing other stuff instead, like watching the entire mcu and dcu. which takes forever, bcause theres so much stuff
[2025-12-17T22:27:38Z] <kris_> i also need to get back to learning C at some point, i rarely have a reason to use it
[2025-12-17T22:27:44Z] <kris_> i'm not particularly a fan of C
[2025-12-17T22:28:01Z] <midfavila> c is fine
[2025-12-17T22:28:09Z] <midfavila> it does what it needs to 
[2025-12-17T22:28:18Z] <kris_> for low level stuff i agree
[2025-12-17T22:28:19Z] <sad_plan> I have every reason to learn C, because all of the shit I use is written in C
[2025-12-17T22:28:24Z] <kris_> for like desktop applications i don't agree
[2025-12-17T22:28:38Z] <midfavila> it's not that hard to write simple desktop applications in C.
[2025-12-17T22:28:52Z] <midfavila> i have to question your approach.
[2025-12-17T22:29:16Z] <kris_> question all you want its just faster to get something out in golang that is equally or better performing
[2025-12-17T22:29:28Z] <kris_> and way more difficult to do shit you shouldn't
[2025-12-17T22:29:41Z] <kris_> and i'm personally a fan of GC
[2025-12-17T22:29:46Z] <midfavila> right but then i need to install a bunch of extra shit and i'm just not gonna do that
[2025-12-17T22:29:49Z] <midfavila> also
[2025-12-17T22:29:55Z] <midfavila> just use the boehm gc if you can't manage the heap
[2025-12-17T22:29:58Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2025-12-17T22:30:04Z] <kris_> mid im going to tell you rn
[2025-12-17T22:30:18Z] <kris_> i'm still understanding how memory works in computers because ive spent my entire life coding in java / shell / stuff like that
[2025-12-17T22:30:25Z] <kris_> so i need you to be patient and understanding with my take on that
[2025-12-17T22:30:41Z] <midfavila> i mean i really don't know what to tell you
[2025-12-17T22:30:43Z] <kris_> no im not going to use a gc with C
[2025-12-17T22:30:45Z] <midfavila> have you read TCPL
[2025-12-17T22:30:46Z] <kris_> im going to figure it out
[2025-12-17T22:30:57Z] <kris_> just like, when i have a reason to
[2025-12-17T22:31:09Z] <midfavila> ...working in C is kind of when you have a reason to
[2025-12-17T22:31:11Z] <midfavila> but sure.
[2025-12-17T22:31:17Z] <kris_> indeed but i never have a reason to work with C
[2025-12-17T22:31:28Z] <midfavila> you're literally about to learn C++
[2025-12-17T22:31:39Z] <midfavila> you should probably learn at least the basics of C first
[2025-12-17T22:31:39Z] <kris_> yep and i guess itll happen then but i'm going to become accustomed to all of the extensions im sure
[2025-12-17T22:31:52Z] <midfavila> we clearly take different approaches to things.
[2025-12-17T22:32:07Z] <kris_> yeah i learn languages by using them, i dont read books or anything like that
[2025-12-17T22:32:16Z] <kris_> i need C++ here not C
[2025-12-17T22:32:23Z] <kris_> i understand your point i just don't really care about doing that
[2025-12-17T22:32:40Z] <midfavila> my point is that you can only do so much without theory.
[2025-12-17T22:32:47Z] <midfavila> that's true in all aspects of life.
[2025-12-17T22:32:50Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2025-12-17T22:33:02Z] <kris_> the only thing ive written in C was a client for my friends upload service
[2025-12-17T22:33:07Z] <kris_> which i later scrapped and rewrote in shell
[2025-12-17T22:33:16Z] <midfavila> why not just use curl?
[2025-12-17T22:33:20Z] <midfavila> or ftp?
[2025-12-17T22:33:24Z] <kris_> hence scrapped and rewrote in shell
[2025-12-17T22:33:30Z] <kris_> (curl)
[2025-12-17T22:33:34Z] <midfavila> ah.
[2025-12-17T22:33:40Z] <kris_> https://github.com/kkrruumm/bobash
[2025-12-17T22:33:57Z] <kris_> this did not get the sewn seal of approval because it's not totally posix compliant
[2025-12-17T22:34:03Z] <kris_> because of literally one line
[2025-12-17T22:34:11Z] <kris_> [[ "$@" =~ "--keep-exif" ]]
[2025-12-17T22:34:21Z] <kris_> and all of the loacls
[2025-12-17T22:34:22Z] <kris_> locals*
[2025-12-17T22:34:37Z] <midfavila> i mean
[2025-12-17T22:34:39Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-12-17T22:34:46Z] <midfavila> kiss only uses posix shell 
[2025-12-17T22:34:55Z] <kris_> well i use bash
[2025-12-17T22:35:02Z] <midfavila> afaik bash isn't really a thing anyone here uses daily
[2025-12-17T22:35:04Z] <kris_> at some point i'll fix this
[2025-12-17T22:35:06Z] <midfavila> just isn't necessary
[2025-12-17T22:35:18Z] <kris_> i only daily drive bash instead of busybox ash because it needs to be on my system for a handful of things
[2025-12-17T22:35:22Z] <kris_> pass and xbps-src
[2025-12-17T22:35:29Z] <midfavila> mnmhmn
[2025-12-17T22:35:32Z] <kris_> ive been meaning to move to pash though
[2025-12-17T22:35:38Z] <kris_> pash' source is actually legible
[2025-12-17T22:35:43Z] <kris_> bless dylan
[2025-12-17T22:36:22Z] <midfavila> i still don't really like password managers.
[2025-12-17T22:36:27Z] <midfavila> they don't really do anything useful.
[2025-12-17T22:36:44Z] <kris_> i mean, they do
[2025-12-17T22:36:51Z] <kris_> i get to have unique and stupid passphrases for services individually
[2025-12-17T22:36:58Z] <kris_> im sure you understand the point
[2025-12-17T22:36:59Z] <midfavila> if you piss off the mob or the government or something they're not going to stop becaue you quadruple encrypted your LUKS volume behind a double-compiled doohickey 
[2025-12-17T22:37:03Z] <midfavila> theyre just gonna beat you 
[2025-12-17T22:37:06Z] <kris_> its not for that
[2025-12-17T22:37:29Z] <midfavila> then why shouldn't i just use a random string from /dev/random and a text file?
[2025-12-17T22:37:30Z] <kris_> i dont share passphrases between services because if one of them has a db leak it's a limited leak of my accounts
[2025-12-17T22:37:46Z] <kris_> the point of encryption is more for backing it up somewhere i believe
[2025-12-17T22:37:56Z] <midfavila> ehh.
[2025-12-17T22:38:09Z] <kris_> though i dont really think gpg is ideal so pash is also hit by that
[2025-12-17T22:38:13Z] <kris_> plus the metadata leaking
[2025-12-17T22:38:18Z] <midfavila> i just use a dictionary and some dice
[2025-12-17T22:38:53Z] <midfavila> pick out X words, roll dice to determine what part of the dictionary to pull each word from, then assign each a number and then assign each service a number string that corresponds to the arrangement of the words chosen
[2025-12-17T22:38:55Z] <kris_> whatever works for you mid
[2025-12-17T22:39:18Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2025-12-17T22:39:32Z] <kris_> i used to just "hand-generate" my passphrases and write them down in a physical notebook
[2025-12-17T22:40:13Z] <midfavila> that's also not ideal because then you can just lose it. plus, totally unique passphrases are hard to memorise 
[2025-12-17T22:40:15Z] <kris_> the idea there being if my desktop is compromised it doesnt matter
[2025-12-17T22:40:25Z] <kris_> oh i dont memorise any passphrases
[2025-12-17T22:40:28Z] <kris_> just my decryption ones
[2025-12-17T22:40:44Z] <midfavila> i only memorise one and then the strings. much easier than either.
[2025-12-17T22:41:25Z] <midfavila> helps to write a short story or haiku with the passphrase if you need something really long
[2025-12-17T22:41:46Z] <midfavila> of course then you run into fuckin LENGTH LIMITS
[2025-12-17T22:41:58Z] <kris_> you probably would have shot me if i finished my password manager
[2025-12-17T22:42:02Z] <kris_> might be the most scuffed thing ive ever done
[2025-12-17T22:42:04Z] <midfavila> >use a minimum of eight characters and no more than twelve
[2025-12-17T22:42:14Z] <midfavila> fucking IBM 
[2025-12-17T22:42:20Z] <midfavila> i'm COMING FOR YOU WHOEVER CHOSE THAT
[2025-12-17T22:42:24Z] <kris_> basically, i luks encrypt a file and then mkfs.xfs inside of that encrypted file and then store my passwords there with dir/file structure
[2025-12-17T22:42:51Z] <midfavila> meh
[2025-12-17T22:43:17Z] <midfavila> should i get a watchy btw
[2025-12-17T22:43:20Z] <midfavila> i kind of want one
[2025-12-17T22:43:30Z] <kris_> what's that
[2025-12-17T22:43:35Z] <kris_> nvm found it
[2025-12-17T22:43:37Z] <midfavila> esp32 based epaper watch
[2025-12-17T22:43:39Z] <midfavila> and shit
[2025-12-17T22:43:48Z] <kris_> idk if you want to i guess
[2025-12-17T22:43:50Z] <kris_> i have a pinetime, i like it
[2025-12-17T22:44:06Z] <midfavila> it comes down to either a watchy or a terrorist watch. the fuckin uhhhh casio one. f91gw
[2025-12-17T22:44:19Z] <kris_> you dont like the pinetime?
[2025-12-17T22:44:23Z] <midfavila> why would i
[2025-12-17T22:44:26Z] <kris_> is it the requirement for a phone that bothers you
[2025-12-17T22:44:29Z] <midfavila> yes
[2025-12-17T22:44:32Z] <kris_> yeah fair enough
[2025-12-17T22:44:42Z] <kris_> i only bought it because i needed something to buzz on my wrist when i get a notification
[2025-12-17T22:44:51Z] <midfavila> also opening it ruins the weatherproofing
[2025-12-17T22:44:58Z] <midfavila> i guess whoever designed it hadn't ever heard of gaskets
[2025-12-17T22:45:17Z] <kris_> pine64 has a knack for poor design decisions and then not supporting the things they make
[2025-12-17T22:45:24Z] <kris_> so i dont blame you for avoiding their stuff just based on that
[2025-12-17T22:45:27Z] <midfavila> the not supporting thing i can get over
[2025-12-17T22:45:37Z] <kris_> i have a pinecil as well
[2025-12-17T22:45:38Z] <kris_> good iron
[2025-12-17T22:45:39Z] <midfavila> i have a pinenote and i still like it even if it's scuffed asf on the software side
[2025-12-17T22:45:47Z] <midfavila> and i'm going to get a pinecil and possibly pinepower
[2025-12-17T22:45:53Z] <midfavila> some of their stuff is good
[2025-12-17T22:45:55Z] <midfavila> most of it is ass
[2025-12-17T22:45:56Z] <kris_> my pinecil runs fine off of my phones AC adapter
[2025-12-17T22:46:01Z] <kris_> given its 65w
[2025-12-17T22:46:03Z] <midfavila> pinepower is for my reform
[2025-12-17T22:46:07Z] <kris_> ic
[2025-12-17T22:46:15Z] <midfavila> i'm going to be upgrading the mainboard at some point to use usbc instead of a barrel
[2025-12-17T22:46:35Z] <kris_> i bought my pinecil to repair an old ps3 and then just never bothered honestly because i realized i also need a heat gun
[2025-12-17T22:46:43Z] <kris_> and good heat guns are kinda pricey
[2025-12-17T22:47:42Z] <midfavila> k packing up
[2025-12-17T22:47:46Z] <midfavila> off to the other job
[2025-12-17T22:47:47Z] <midfavila> bbl
[2025-12-17T22:47:53Z] <kris_> ttyl
[2025-12-17T22:50:58Z] <sad_plan> "terrorist watch" good one
[2025-12-17T22:51:06Z] <sad_plan> do people really call it that?
[2025-12-17T22:51:33Z] <kris_> thats the first time ive heard that
[2025-12-17T22:52:03Z] <sad_plan> seems like its 'Al-Qaida's watch of choice'
[2025-12-17T22:53:32Z] <sad_plan> > US interrogators at Guantanamo Bay identified potential terrorists by the watch they wore on their wrist.
[2025-12-17T22:53:36Z] <sad_plan> what the actual fuck
[2025-12-17T22:53:42Z] <sad_plan> https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/al-qaida-s-watch-of-choice-wearing-a-casio-enough-to-become-terror-suspect-a-758913.html
[2025-12-17T22:53:54Z] <kris_> that's fucking nuts
[2025-12-17T22:54:14Z] <sad_plan> indeed it is
[2025-12-17T22:55:00Z] <sad_plan> > the hallmark of a terrorist
[2025-12-17T22:55:07Z] <sad_plan> they do have a way with words here I se
[2025-12-17T22:57:52Z] <sad_plan> good one USA. the joint task force speaks of "suspicious items, and the casio f91w is on that list. along with $100 bills and satelite phones. they cant be serious. this has to be a joke
[2025-12-17T22:58:01Z] <sad_plan> I mean, its just a damn watch
[2025-12-17T22:59:19Z] <kris_> nah its real
[2025-12-17T22:59:32Z] <sad_plan> its still unreal