[2025-12-22T01:19:51Z] <midfavila> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i'm going to be heading into the local uni on the 23rd for an interview and i'm so fucking nervous qwq
[2025-12-22T09:13:09Z] <midfavila> hoping to get the custom distro up and running to a basic degree before my KCMA-D8 arrives
[2025-12-22T09:13:29Z] <midfavila> turns out all that's left is just building everything and sorting out a few kinks in scripts
[2025-12-22T09:13:43Z] <midfavila> gonna be really nice to be able to convert all of this to using makefiles 
[2025-12-22T09:13:52Z] <midfavila> NO more kiss
[2025-12-22T09:13:55Z] <midfavila> absolute BLOAT
[2025-12-22T14:09:05Z] <dery> isn't that how the BSDs handle packages
[2025-12-22T16:01:45Z] <kris_> midfavila: grats on the interview
[2025-12-22T16:01:49Z] <kris_> another IT position?
[2025-12-22T22:50:21Z] <midfavila> kris_: admissions
[2025-12-22T22:50:28Z] <kris_> oooo
[2025-12-22T22:50:40Z] <midfavila> does anyone here know where periish's git repo went? x11fs/tofu person
[2025-12-22T22:50:46Z] <kris_> i wish you luck <3
[2025-12-22T22:50:57Z] <midfavila> it's just to find out if i can qualify 
[2025-12-22T22:51:21Z] <kris_> wait im a little confused
[2025-12-22T22:51:23Z] <kris_> for job or to go to school
[2025-12-22T22:51:28Z] <kris_> either way i hope you do
[2025-12-22T22:51:35Z] <midfavila> to go to school
[2025-12-22T22:52:21Z] <midfavila> aaaaaaa man this is going to drive me insane
[2025-12-22T22:52:29Z] <midfavila> periish if you're still alive you need tofuckign pm me rn
[2025-12-22T22:52:44Z] <kris_> wyd
[2025-12-22T22:53:03Z] <midfavila> i'm setting up my custom distro again and i need a window manager
[2025-12-22T22:53:08Z] <midfavila> normally i would use fvwm,
[2025-12-22T22:53:12Z] <midfavila> but fvwm3 requires xrandr support,
[2025-12-22T22:53:18Z] <midfavila> which xfbdev doesn't have
[2025-12-22T22:53:20Z] <kris_> interesting requirement
[2025-12-22T22:53:27Z] <midfavila> and i need to use xfbdev on my laptop,
[2025-12-22T22:53:33Z] <midfavila> because X.Org doesn't support mali gpus
[2025-12-22T22:53:38Z] <midfavila> so,
[2025-12-22T22:53:57Z] <midfavila> i need to find what amounts to an X11 scripting environment that's portable and has minimal dependencies
[2025-12-22T22:54:10Z] <kris_> does dwm need xrandr
[2025-12-22T22:54:15Z] <midfavila> periish forked prior work on x11fs which is a FUSE setup for manipulating X11 windows
[2025-12-22T22:54:26Z] <midfavila> and they wrote a window manager using that and some other tools called tofu
[2025-12-22T22:54:47Z] <midfavila> i was going to set up x11fs and tofu and then i could have my comfy little hugbox window manager written in posix-ish shell
[2025-12-22T22:54:50Z] <midfavila> dwm is shit 
[2025-12-22T22:55:00Z] <kris_> i agree its just the smallest thing that comes to mind
[2025-12-22T22:55:08Z] <kris_> other than sowm
[2025-12-22T22:55:43Z] <midfavila> 9wm 
[2025-12-22T22:55:48Z] <kris_> https://github.com/uint23/sxwm
[2025-12-22T22:55:51Z] <kris_> i also found this the other day, it seems cute
[2025-12-22T22:55:56Z] <kris_> not a recommendation idk anything about it
[2025-12-22T22:56:03Z] <kris_> im guessing it wont work with xfbdev
[2025-12-22T22:56:22Z] <midfavila> doubt it
[2025-12-22T22:56:27Z] <midfavila> also it's a tiling window manager
[2025-12-22T22:56:28Z] <midfavila> eugh
[2025-12-22T22:56:36Z] <kris_> you know what isnt
[2025-12-22T22:56:37Z] <kris_> sowm
[2025-12-22T22:56:58Z] <midfavila> is sowm written in shell script
[2025-12-22T22:57:27Z] <kris_> mkay that is a very interesting requirement
[2025-12-22T22:57:36Z] <kris_> no it is not
[2025-12-22T22:59:17Z] <midfavila> goddamnit i'm going to lose my mind
[2025-12-22T22:59:20Z] <midfavila> it's *right there*
[2025-12-22T22:59:30Z] <midfavila> IA has a backup of the page proper but none of the actual data
[2025-12-22T23:03:15Z] <midfavila> OH WAIT
[2025-12-22T23:03:31Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/imyxh/tofu
[2025-12-22T23:03:35Z] <midfavila> AHAHAHAHAHAH *YES*
[2025-12-22T23:03:44Z] <midfavila> i fucking *LOVE* you, internet archive
[2025-12-22T23:04:28Z] <midfavila> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa euphoria be thy name 
[2025-12-22T23:04:36Z] <kris_> do you already have x11fs
[2025-12-22T23:04:41Z] <midfavila> gonna package it
[2025-12-22T23:04:43Z] <midfavila> rn broski
[2025-12-22T23:05:00Z] <midfavila> i'm rewriting all my kiss packages to use make instead
[2025-12-22T23:05:10Z] <kris_> this is fucking wild
[2025-12-22T23:05:13Z] <kris_> tofu, i mean
[2025-12-22T23:05:26Z] <midfavila> i'm gonna have tofu,
[2025-12-22T23:05:27Z] <midfavila> and ii,
[2025-12-22T23:05:30Z] <midfavila> and fuckign,
[2025-12-22T23:05:34Z] <midfavila> gfduhibfgfihbfa
[2025-12-22T23:05:37Z] <midfavila> and it's gonna be *amazing*
[2025-12-22T23:05:57Z] <midfavila> we are SO back
[2025-12-22T23:06:43Z] <midfavila> time to reimplement twm in posix shell
[2025-12-22T23:07:11Z] <midfavila> the going to school to get a job virgin versus the going to school to rice your linux setup harder chad
[2025-12-22T23:08:20Z] <kris_> what am i then
[2025-12-22T23:08:28Z] <kris_> going to school out of boredom and to appease my family
[2025-12-22T23:08:41Z] <midfavila> the going to school because it's socially expected brad
[2025-12-22T23:08:43Z] <midfavila> the sigma
[2025-12-22T23:08:59Z] <kris_> its been largely beneficial so far honestly
[2025-12-22T23:09:06Z] <kris_> as much as my politics professor was a douchebag i learned a lot from him
[2025-12-22T23:09:14Z] <kris_> and my philosophy class was peak
[2025-12-22T23:09:43Z] <midfavila> i mean school is generally a good experience in and of itself
[2025-12-22T23:09:49Z] <kris_> i also need to package a window manager but i'm going in an unbelievably different direction compared to you
[2025-12-22T23:09:51Z] <kris_> i found something
[2025-12-22T23:09:52Z] <kris_> something amazing
[2025-12-22T23:09:54Z] <midfavila> the problem is that something something capitalism something something
[2025-12-22T23:09:56Z] <kris_> something that should solve all my woes
[2025-12-22T23:10:02Z] <kris_> https://github.com/mahkoh/jay
[2025-12-22T23:10:21Z] <midfavila> how did i know it was going to be a wayland compositor written i nrust
[2025-12-22T23:10:29Z] <midfavila> i can see the future
[2025-12-22T23:10:33Z] <kris_> the language is irrelevant
[2025-12-22T23:10:42Z] <midfavila> it literally isn't
[2025-12-22T23:10:47Z] <kris_> it is for me
[2025-12-22T23:10:52Z] <midfavila> i'm not going to build ten years worth of toolchains so i can build a compositor
[2025-12-22T23:10:55Z] <midfavila> >:c
[2025-12-22T23:11:19Z] <kris_> i just tell xbps-src "hey this is build_style=cargo" and then it does the thing
[2025-12-22T23:11:22Z] <kris_> we are not the same.
[2025-12-22T23:11:43Z] <midfavila> it's a matter of PRINCIPLE
[2025-12-22T23:11:55Z] <kris_> rust is fine
[2025-12-22T23:12:09Z] <midfavila> okay time to back up tofu super hard so i never have to panic about this again
[2025-12-22T23:12:24Z] <midfavila> this is gonna be so comfy dood
[2025-12-22T23:12:28Z] <kris_> sway just has a few issues
[2025-12-22T23:12:32Z] <kris_> like im mostly fine with it
[2025-12-22T23:12:46Z] <kris_> they're just allergic to actually doing anything to it
[2025-12-22T23:12:50Z] <kris_> or something
[2025-12-22T23:13:03Z] <midfavila> i've spent like five years screeching about wayland in here
[2025-12-22T23:13:05Z] <midfavila> i will *never* switch
[2025-12-22T23:13:09Z] <midfavila> i *refuse*
[2025-12-22T23:13:11Z] <kris_> jay lets me keep my preferred i3 tiling
[2025-12-22T23:13:16Z] <kris_> but fixes the handful of issues i have with sway
[2025-12-22T23:13:21Z] <midfavila> i will literally stop using a GUI before i switch to wayland
[2025-12-22T23:13:31Z] <kris_> you do you boo
[2025-12-22T23:14:48Z] <kris_> idk i use a fair amount of stuff written in rust
[2025-12-22T23:14:55Z] <kris_> building that stuff doesnt take very long because i'm spoiled for hardware
[2025-12-22T23:15:14Z] <kris_> and jay is largely self-contained, theres not too much it requires to build
[2025-12-22T23:18:32Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/teegre/tofu
[2025-12-22T23:18:36Z] <midfavila> this is the latest revision of tofu
[2025-12-22T23:18:48Z] <midfavila> has a new module for workspace support compared to the other one
[2025-12-22T23:19:08Z] <midfavila> a few years ago some dipshit was like 'hurr i bet some day mid is going to rewrite half his system in shell'
[2025-12-22T23:19:12Z] <midfavila> well you were RIGHT
[2025-12-22T23:19:15Z] <midfavila> and it's AWESOME