[2025-12-27T02:14:10Z] <kris_> a
[2025-12-27T03:04:47Z] <midfavila> got the openwrt one today
[2025-12-27T03:04:49Z] <midfavila> build quality is great
[2025-12-27T03:05:02Z] <midfavila> now i'm trying to figure out how the fuck to access the mikrobus pins
[2025-12-27T03:06:23Z] <midfavila> i was able to install that lte modem in it and initialise that, and get it to connect to my isp using hayes commands manually over the modem's USB-C uart, but i can't figure out how to set up the openwrt so that i can access the UART RX and TX pins
[2025-12-27T03:06:36Z] <midfavila> they aren't even identified in gpioinfo...
[2025-12-27T03:07:53Z] <midfavila> i know from the schematic that they're definitely controlled by the gpiochip, though, and the reset pin is accessible via gpioctl... if i had some way to set pins high or low from the modem's side i could just test every pin in sequence to find the right ones, but the manufacturer's hayes manual is a disaster
[2025-12-27T03:08:12Z] <midfavila> i don't have a multimeter either so i can't just set the line high that way...
[2025-12-27T03:47:26Z] <kris_> you're on a wild quest
[2025-12-27T03:48:25Z] <midfavila> dude i feel like i'm this fucking close
[2025-12-27T03:48:39Z] <midfavila> all i have to do is figure out why the UART isn't showing up under /dev 
[2025-12-27T03:48:43Z] <midfavila> and i'll be set
[2025-12-27T03:52:11Z] <midfavila> i'm really hoping that this isn't like
[2025-12-27T03:52:23Z] <midfavila> openwrt and/or bananapi dropping the ball on software here
[2025-12-27T03:52:25Z] <midfavila> i *think*
[2025-12-27T03:52:27Z] <midfavila> *THINK*
[2025-12-27T03:52:30Z] <midfavila> this is a DTS issue
[2025-12-27T03:52:59Z] <midfavila> 0x11002000 and 0x11004000 show up in dmesg 
[2025-12-27T03:53:19Z] <midfavila> and looking those addresses up in the DTS for the board the openwrt one is based on shows that they are, in fact, UARTs
[2025-12-27T03:53:27Z] <midfavila> but it marks them as disabled
[2025-12-27T03:53:30Z] <midfavila> so i'm *HOPING*,
[2025-12-27T03:53:32Z] <midfavila> *HOPING*
[2025-12-27T03:53:49Z] <midfavila> all i have to do is flip that around and call it a day
[2025-12-27T03:53:58Z] <midfavila> because if not i'm totally lost
[2025-12-27T03:54:14Z] <midfavila> there's also zero information about the openwrt one mikrobus interface online at *ALL*
[2025-12-27T03:54:24Z] <midfavila> other than lots of bragging about having it in promo material
[2025-12-27T04:03:02Z] <midfavila> so dmesg says that ttyS0 is up as a console
[2025-12-27T04:03:12Z] <midfavila> i have to wonder if that's for the *router's* secondary UART
[2025-12-27T04:03:30Z] <midfavila> the thing is, connecting to it using minicom doesn't show me anything...
[2025-12-27T04:03:43Z] <midfavila> ttyS1 isn't registered as anything at all though
[2025-12-27T04:14:54Z] <midfavila> seems like some guy got a LoRa module running over mikrobus in the one and wrote some stuff but it's run into issues getting merged
[2025-12-27T04:14:57Z] <midfavila> it's a DTS issue for sure 
[2025-12-27T04:16:37Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/26832
[2025-12-27T04:21:35Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/vidplace7/openwrt-dtbo/tree/main
[2025-12-27T04:21:36Z] <midfavila> ding ding ding
[2025-12-27T04:21:54Z] <midfavila> experimental approach to managing DTSes 
[2025-12-27T04:21:58Z] <midfavila> allows for runtime loading and such
[2025-12-27T04:22:05Z] <midfavila> includes an SPI demonstration 
[2025-12-27T04:22:22Z] <midfavila> SPI is a bit slow but it would work for my usecase here i think
[2025-12-27T04:26:40Z] <midfavila> now i just need to figure out how the hell i'm actually going to build this...
[2025-12-27T04:27:00Z] <kris_> honestly im still legitimately unclear on what the hell you're even doing
[2025-12-27T04:27:07Z] <kris_> but it sounds like it's probably really cool
[2025-12-27T04:27:45Z] <kris_> need to look into UART, you're the only person to have ever said that word to me
[2025-12-27T04:27:51Z] <kris_> word/abbreviation probably
[2025-12-27T04:29:22Z] <midfavila> kris_: i'm adding a cellular modem to my router
[2025-12-27T04:29:41Z] <kris_> i got that part
[2025-12-27T04:29:44Z] <midfavila> https://www.mikroe.com/4g-lte-2-click-data-for-north-america
[2025-12-27T04:29:57Z] <midfavila> UART is just a way to access devices over serial interfaces
[2025-12-27T04:30:10Z] <kris_> as opposed to?
[2025-12-27T04:30:14Z] <midfavila> usually it's used for terminal access in extremely embedded environments 
[2025-12-27T04:30:14Z] <kris_> the webui and SSH?
[2025-12-27T04:30:18Z] <midfavila> yes
[2025-12-27T04:30:28Z] <kris_> openwrt usually has ssh enabled by default i think
[2025-12-27T04:30:28Z] <midfavila> uart is like
[2025-12-27T04:30:31Z] <midfavila> no
[2025-12-27T04:30:33Z] <midfavila> you don't get it
[2025-12-27T04:30:47Z] <midfavila> i'm not using the router's uart
[2025-12-27T04:30:48Z] <midfavila> lik
[2025-12-27T04:30:49Z] <midfavila> like
[2025-12-27T04:30:50Z] <midfavila> i am
[2025-12-27T04:30:51Z] <midfavila> but
[2025-12-27T04:30:55Z] <midfavila> that's separaet
[2025-12-27T04:30:58Z] <midfavila> separate even holy fuck
[2025-12-27T04:31:12Z] <midfavila> i'm trying to access the modem's uart
[2025-12-27T04:31:15Z] <midfavila> *from* the router
[2025-12-27T04:31:19Z] <kris_> OH
[2025-12-27T04:31:22Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-12-27T04:31:23Z] <kris_> yeah that makes a lot more sense
[2025-12-27T04:31:40Z] <midfavila> if i can access the modem as a serial device then it's a simple matter of configuring it in the same fashion as a dialup modem 
[2025-12-27T04:31:50Z] <midfavila> albeit, different hayes commands and stuff
[2025-12-27T04:32:25Z] <midfavila> but i can just slap the right dark incantation into a chat script and then fire up pppd and then configure the router to treat that ppp device as the network gateway
[2025-12-27T04:32:29Z] <midfavila> which,
[2025-12-27T04:32:34Z] <midfavila> THEORETICALLY,
[2025-12-27T04:32:49Z] <midfavila> would allow me to use my data-only business SIM without a phone
[2025-12-27T04:33:33Z] <midfavila> tethering is like, the primary usecase i have for my smartphone rn
[2025-12-27T04:33:49Z] <midfavila> so if i can remove the need for that then the only thing i'll need to use my phone for is calling
[2025-12-27T04:34:19Z] <midfavila> at that point it's a matter of getting the stuff for the wiphone and setting *that* up and then badabingbadaboomgabageegabagoo everything will work
[2025-12-27T04:34:43Z] <midfavila> and i can fuckin stop screeching into the void of #kisslinux and prolly pissing off all the lurkers we have lol
[2025-12-27T04:36:13Z] <midfavila> until i get that package built tho i'm just going to tether my blackberry to the thingie
[2025-12-27T04:36:16Z] <midfavila> that's good enough
[2025-12-27T04:36:58Z] <midfavila> man this is so jank. i have the pcb just sitting on a footstool next to me with like a billion goddamn cables hanging off it lmao
[2025-12-27T04:55:25Z] <kris_> that's how you know you're really getting busy with it
[2025-12-27T04:55:56Z] <kris_> im sorry i wish i had actual input on what you're up to
[2025-12-27T04:55:59Z] <kris_> it's really cool
[2025-12-27T05:28:02Z] <midfavila> hrm? it's fine lol
[2025-12-27T05:28:25Z] <midfavila> i'm setting it aside until i can get that kernel module running anywya
[2025-12-27T05:28:28Z] <midfavila> anyway, even
[2025-12-27T09:36:58Z] <sewn> dery: bumping what
[2025-12-27T09:37:06Z] <sewn> (i dont feel like scrolling)
[2025-12-27T09:45:49Z] <sweetnsour> I tried sndio today and I can't get it to work. It runs but no sound coming out, and can't find decent manpages for it. I think sndio is dead for linux
[2025-12-27T10:38:12Z] <sewn> expected tbh
[2025-12-27T12:36:42Z] <midfavila> sweetnsour: i've not heard of anyone using sndio on linux in forever and an age
[2025-12-27T12:37:17Z] <midfavila> your best bet is ALSA, pulse, or pipewire
[2025-12-27T12:46:05Z] <midfavila> just had someone try to argue with me that ppp is a 'slow protocol'
[2025-12-27T12:46:10Z] <midfavila> mfer what do you mean 
[2025-12-27T12:46:47Z] <midfavila> ppp still gets used all over the place in core internet infrastructure including from ISP exchanges to customers 
[2025-12-27T12:47:07Z] <midfavila> there's marginal overhead but that has nothing to do with 'speed'
[2025-12-27T12:47:14Z] * midfavila rubs eyes
[2025-12-27T12:47:30Z] <midfavila> or, well, very little.
[2025-12-27T13:02:42Z] <sewn> furry
[2025-12-27T13:39:50Z] <sweetnsour> midfavila: I gave up with sndio, I'll try to patch pipewire to work with libudev-zero
[2025-12-27T21:39:00Z] <midfavila> sewn yes i am a furry what about it
[2025-12-27T21:39:01Z] <midfavila> nerdlet
[2025-12-27T21:39:12Z] * midfavila sniffs