[2025-12-31T00:07:23Z] <midfavila> alright lads buckle up
[2025-12-31T00:07:26Z] <midfavila> we're going to ikea
[2025-12-31T00:07:37Z] <kris_> i dont have my car seat
[2025-12-31T00:07:45Z] <midfavila> too bad loser 
[2025-12-31T00:07:52Z] <midfavila> you'll have to go without the booster seat
[2025-12-31T00:08:19Z] <midfavila> also yeah i've heard stories about the dmv lmao
[2025-12-31T00:08:27Z] <midfavila> good time to rewatch all of the lotr movies ig
[2025-12-31T00:08:30Z] <midfavila> or the godfather
[2025-12-31T00:08:39Z] <midfavila> we're getting:
[2025-12-31T00:08:40Z] <midfavila> >rug
[2025-12-31T00:08:41Z] <midfavila> >desk
[2025-12-31T00:08:43Z] <midfavila> >desk the second
[2025-12-31T00:08:45Z] <kris_> lotr fucking sucks im sorry
[2025-12-31T00:08:45Z] <midfavila> >bed
[2025-12-31T00:08:48Z] <midfavila> it does 
[2025-12-31T00:08:52Z] <midfavila> i won't argue that lol
[2025-12-31T00:09:47Z] <midfavila> man what is up with people buying queen and king size beds for one person
[2025-12-31T00:09:48Z] <midfavila> that's so silly
[2025-12-31T00:09:58Z] <kris_> ive been thinking about getting a japanese style futon
[2025-12-31T00:10:04Z] <midfavila> futons are cool
[2025-12-31T00:10:04Z] <kris_> and some tatami mats to put under it so it doesnt mold and whatnot
[2025-12-31T00:10:13Z] <midfavila> there's a company in quebec that's pretty affordable that makes them 
[2025-12-31T00:10:20Z] <midfavila> futon d'or 
[2025-12-31T00:10:23Z] <kris_> i dont mean futons in general i mean the japanese ones
[2025-12-31T00:10:25Z] <midfavila> yes
[2025-12-31T00:10:26Z] <midfavila> i know
[2025-12-31T00:10:28Z] <midfavila> that's what i meant
[2025-12-31T00:10:35Z] <kris_> it might be incredible for me
[2025-12-31T00:10:42Z] <kris_> i grew up sleeping literally just on the floor so i prefer to sleep on hard surfaces
[2025-12-31T00:10:48Z] <midfavila> why would you get tatami instead of a futon base tho
[2025-12-31T00:10:58Z] <kris_> so i can fold it up
[2025-12-31T00:11:03Z] <midfavila> fair enough i g
[2025-12-31T00:11:05Z] <kris_> without having to move anything else
[2025-12-31T00:11:25Z] <midfavila> no murphy bed?
[2025-12-31T00:11:27Z] <midfavila> :c
[2025-12-31T00:11:27Z] <kris_> currently applying for github students
[2025-12-31T00:11:36Z] <kris_> if i get accepted they just pay for my VPS and stuff
[2025-12-31T00:11:38Z] <kris_> its kinda nuts
[2025-12-31T00:11:53Z] <kris_> i also applied for sponsors since im broke
[2025-12-31T00:12:10Z] <kris_> i dont think anyone will sponsor me but it would be nice if someone found something of mine useful enough to give even like $5 occasionally
[2025-12-31T00:12:14Z] <kris_> given that's 1/6th of my current bank account
[2025-12-31T00:12:25Z] <midfavila> mood
[2025-12-31T00:12:39Z] <midfavila> i'm hoping that this next batch of stuff doesn't fucking break so i can stop replacing shit
[2025-12-31T00:12:54Z] <kris_> i know you're gonna be disappointed in me but like
[2025-12-31T00:12:56Z] <midfavila> this desk and bed haven't even been in use for two years and they're already falling apart
[2025-12-31T00:13:00Z] <kris_> i had to pay $10 at the DMV earlier and that put my account at $30
[2025-12-31T00:13:10Z] <kris_> so i contributed to the botnet, made that money back in like an hour by doing AI data annotation
[2025-12-31T00:13:20Z] <kris_> only way i can find to make money atm
[2025-12-31T00:13:21Z] <midfavila> infinite genocide on all deltarunes
[2025-12-31T00:13:36Z] <midfavila> it's okay one of my eurofrens does that beacuse the economy is shit rn
[2025-12-31T00:13:42Z] <kris_> $40 an hour to code myself out of a job so
[2025-12-31T00:13:45Z] <kris_> since i know go, python, etc
[2025-12-31T00:14:15Z] <kris_> wheres sewn :|
[2025-12-31T00:14:24Z] <kris_> i was meaning to ask her about other golang discord API libraries
[2025-12-31T00:15:46Z] <midfavila> sewn get in here 
[2025-12-31T00:16:18Z] <midfavila> fuck this is like 1100 bucks for this furniture
[2025-12-31T00:16:23Z] <kris_> well
[2025-12-31T00:16:25Z] <midfavila> what a pain in the ass
[2025-12-31T00:16:29Z] <kris_> if its good quality its worth it methonks
[2025-12-31T00:16:36Z] <midfavila> it's fine enough
[2025-12-31T00:16:44Z] <midfavila> i only buy solid wood or metal furniture from ikea
[2025-12-31T00:16:46Z] <kris_> good furniture shouldnt need to be replaced for at least 10-15 years
[2025-12-31T00:16:47Z] <midfavila> i've never had any issues with it
[2025-12-31T00:16:50Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2025-12-31T00:16:51Z] <kris_> at *least*
[2025-12-31T00:17:02Z] <midfavila> wait fuck i need to replace my little dresser too
[2025-12-31T00:17:04Z] <midfavila> *ugh*
[2025-12-31T00:17:14Z] <midfavila> i am never buying particle or fibreboard ever again
[2025-12-31T00:17:17Z] <kris_> i think eventually im going to ask my dad to buy me some wood so i can learn to make furniture
[2025-12-31T00:17:19Z] <kris_> and then i can sell it
[2025-12-31T00:17:25Z] <kris_> and then pay him back for the wood
[2025-12-31T00:17:37Z] <midfavila> that requires you have buyers with sufficient money 
[2025-12-31T00:18:56Z] <kris_> imagine me as a carpenter
[2025-12-31T00:19:03Z] <kris_> i deal in carps
[2025-12-31T00:19:58Z] <midfavila> ahm a cahpentur
[2025-12-31T00:20:00Z] <midfavila> ah deal in cahps
[2025-12-31T00:20:07Z] <midfavila> whaddaya want
[2025-12-31T00:20:21Z] <midfavila> just imagining a really thick nyc accent 
[2025-12-31T00:21:00Z] <midfavila> oml if i see one more person talk about how they 'hacked' their furniture by painting it i'm going to have a stroke
[2025-12-31T00:32:28Z] <kris_> midfavila: lifehacks!!!
[2025-12-31T00:32:36Z] <kris_> brush your teeth twice a day so you don't get cavities! lifehack!
[2025-12-31T00:32:55Z] <kris_> refrain from shitting in your neighbors lawn so they don't get angry at you! lifehack!
[2025-12-31T00:34:46Z] <midfavila> = w=;
[2025-12-31T00:35:06Z] <midfavila> wow you're such a hacker kris
[2025-12-31T00:35:18Z] <midfavila> heckin' hecker
[2025-12-31T00:35:54Z] <kris_> gig o' ram
[2025-12-31T00:36:06Z] <kris_> im setting up a liberapay
[2025-12-31T00:36:19Z] <kris_> the fuckers who keep DMing me on reddit to add features to my void installer better at least pay me
[2025-12-31T00:36:22Z] <kris_> (they won't)
[2025-12-31T00:37:08Z] <midfavila> idk if they're demanding you do stuff that's out of the way and not really up your alley then it's not unreasonable to expect compensation 
[2025-12-31T00:37:35Z] <kris_> so far ive just been doing it once i get pissed off enough
[2025-12-31T00:37:47Z] <kris_> like with zfs and btrfs support which are hardly tested and will forever be marked experimental because i really couldnt give less of a shit
[2025-12-31T00:37:54Z] <kris_> about either of those
[2025-12-31T00:38:12Z] <kris_> in my eyes they're both just store brand lvm + xfs
[2025-12-31T00:38:27Z] <kris_> or hell even ext4
[2025-12-31T00:39:01Z] <midfavila> no bro listen 
[2025-12-31T00:39:02Z] <midfavila> listen bro
[2025-12-31T00:39:05Z] <midfavila> zfs pools and shit
[2025-12-31T00:39:10Z] <midfavila> come on man it's the future
[2025-12-31T00:39:20Z] <midfavila> you should have everything in your filesystem it's great
[2025-12-31T00:39:30Z] <kris_> zfs would be fine if its encryption wasnt balls
[2025-12-31T00:39:37Z] <kris_> that's the #1 thing that means i'll literally never use it
[2025-12-31T00:39:46Z] <kris_> it doesnt even compare to luks, not even remotely, and they dont exactly make apparent just how dangerous it is
[2025-12-31T00:40:05Z] <midfavila> alright i'm getting the 'norden', 'nackanas', 'vevelstad', 'vodskov', and 'tarva'
[2025-12-31T00:40:10Z] <kris_> in terms of the various data leaks they dont warn you about + its subpar KDF + inability to encrypt metadata
[2025-12-31T00:40:24Z] <kris_> and you cant detach headers for deniable encryption
[2025-12-31T00:40:28Z] <midfavila> https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/nackanaes-table-acacia-40511056/
[2025-12-31T00:40:32Z] <kris_> its just so much worse than luks + lvm + xfs
[2025-12-31T00:40:33Z] <midfavila> not a bad little table 
[2025-12-31T00:40:34Z] <kris_> to me anyway
[2025-12-31T00:40:46Z] <midfavila> im gonna keep usin jfs
[2025-12-31T00:40:49Z] <midfavila> 's comfy
[2025-12-31T00:40:52Z] <kris_> "muh pool unlocks all at once though" like shut the fuck up
[2025-12-31T00:40:53Z] <midfavila> just werks
[2025-12-31T00:40:59Z] <kris_> it should take you 20 seconds to write a shell script to unlock all of your drives
[2025-12-31T00:41:02Z] <kris_> in your raid array
[2025-12-31T00:41:04Z] <kris_> with lvm
[2025-12-31T00:41:20Z] <midfavila> what if i got a bunch more of those ddr3 based drives and put those in raid 0
[2025-12-31T00:41:34Z] <kris_> you can get old intel optane drives for $10/pop, 16gb capacity and they're roughly the speed of ddr2
[2025-12-31T00:41:41Z] <midfavila> in theory i could get 12 of them on a machine like the one i used to have
[2025-12-31T00:41:43Z] <kris_> if you need unbelievably fast storage that is unbelievably durable
[2025-12-31T00:41:46Z] <kris_> albeit not large
[2025-12-31T00:41:54Z] <kris_> few of those in raid 0 would make a banger swap partition
[2025-12-31T00:41:55Z] <midfavila> i just got a ddr3 drive for like twenty bucks lol
[2025-12-31T00:42:09Z] <midfavila> going to put my rootfs on it 
[2025-12-31T00:42:19Z] <kris_> but yeah maybe ill be able to get github student which gives me money for vps'
[2025-12-31T00:42:25Z] <kris_> but idk if ill use it
[2025-12-31T00:42:35Z] <kris_> it also gives me discounts on adafruit stuff
[2025-12-31T00:42:38Z] <kris_> so rpis and whatnot
[2025-12-31T00:43:06Z] <kris_> tbh mid i'm a drive speed hater
[2025-12-31T00:43:16Z] <kris_> i havent noticed a difference since i got my first sata ssd and now that i have an nvme its still not different
[2025-12-31T00:43:22Z] <kris_> what made a bigger difference for me was moving from ext4 to xfs
[2025-12-31T00:43:38Z] <kris_> my filesystem has the zoomies
[2025-12-31T00:43:42Z] <midfavila> could you imagine 55GB/s
[2025-12-31T00:43:57Z] <kris_> one of my friends owns the fastest ssd ever made and he cant tell a difference between that and his old normal nvme so
[2025-12-31T00:44:02Z] <kris_> he paid like $1200 for it
[2025-12-31T00:44:09Z] <kris_> however
[2025-12-31T00:44:14Z] <kris_> it's also like, the most durable ssd ever made
[2025-12-31T00:44:15Z] <midfavila> i mean tbf for most people it doesn't matter
[2025-12-31T00:44:20Z] <midfavila> idk about that
[2025-12-31T00:44:30Z] <midfavila> is it slc
[2025-12-31T00:44:58Z] <kris_> im not really sure, hold on im searching for the model in our discord dms
[2025-12-31T00:45:18Z] <midfavila> cuhringe
[2025-12-31T00:45:44Z] <kris_> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/201859/intel-optane-ssd-dc-p5800x-series-1-6tb-2-5in-pcie-x4-3d-xpoint/specifications.html
[2025-12-31T00:46:23Z] <midfavila> >only 7.2GB
[2025-12-31T00:46:32Z] <kris_> well yeah its an ssd mid not something that dumps an ssd into RAM
[2025-12-31T00:46:52Z] <midfavila> disappoint
[2025-12-31T00:47:08Z] <midfavila> i kind of want to try that just to see what it would be like
[2025-12-31T00:47:20Z] <midfavila> the 12 ram disks in a raid 0 array 
[2025-12-31T00:50:00Z] <kris_> im curious to see how you even use this thing
[2025-12-31T00:50:06Z] <kris_> arent you just doing like an 8gb stick
[2025-12-31T00:50:11Z] <kris_> my rootfs is like 40gb man
[2025-12-31T00:51:40Z] <midfavila> my entire setup is like 2gb
[2025-12-31T00:52:04Z] <midfavila> and like half of that is llvm or mesa or something 
[2025-12-31T00:52:06Z] <midfavila> i can't recall
[2025-12-31T02:40:54Z] <midfavila> bwuoahaahahhaah new years time aaaaa
[2025-12-31T02:43:16Z] <kris_> what happens on new years
[2025-12-31T02:46:59Z] <midfavila> we get to finally forget that 2025 happened
[2025-12-31T02:47:22Z] * kris_ unhappies this mans new years
[2025-12-31T02:47:38Z] <midfavila> i'm less happy and more relieved
[2025-12-31T05:15:19Z] <kris_> i wish relief upon you
[2025-12-31T05:15:22Z] <kris_> get smoked
[2025-12-31T06:27:17Z] <kris_> midfavila: im fucking livid
[2025-12-31T06:27:21Z] <kris_> i just found the solution to my emacs tab issue
[2025-12-31T06:27:27Z] <kris_> off a random whim search
[2025-12-31T06:37:05Z] <midfavila> you love emac?
[2025-12-31T06:37:09Z] <midfavila> i love emac
[2025-12-31T06:43:46Z] <midfavila> sad_plan love emac
[2025-12-31T07:02:13Z] <sad_plan> fuck emacs
[2025-12-31T07:18:43Z] <midfavila> no :c
[2025-12-31T07:21:34Z] <sad_plan> yes
[2025-12-31T07:22:28Z] <sad_plan> emacs has too much stuff. I also dont like the keybindings. now mind you I never used emacs, so my opinions are somewhat baseless. which is fine by me
[2025-12-31T07:22:31Z] <sad_plan> vis <3
[2025-12-31T07:50:20Z] <kris_> im sorry but sewn was right the vis bugs are driving me nuts
[2025-12-31T07:50:41Z] <kris_> emacs does indeed have too much stuff but its also the only editor that seems to be able to do everything i want
[2025-12-31T07:53:46Z] <sad_plan> kris_: what vis bugs? ive not encountered any
[2025-12-31T07:55:33Z] <kris_> they're probably primarily related to the plugins i cba to fix
[2025-12-31T07:55:42Z] <kris_> like the spellcheck plugin making my terminal window flicker like crazy when its enabled
[2025-12-31T07:55:54Z] <kris_> the fzf menu thing leaves like a residual ghost on my screen its hard to describe
[2025-12-31T07:55:58Z] <kris_> and its worse than dired anyway
[2025-12-31T08:19:39Z] <sad_plan> I see. so basically if you just stopped thinking you need all these plugins, you would be good
[2025-12-31T08:39:55Z] <kris_> a good editor makes you faster
[2025-12-31T08:40:11Z] <kris_> not that vis is bad but im too lazy to fix/write a bunch of plugins
[2025-12-31T08:41:47Z] <sad_plan> well, I agree, but I dont belive installing lots of plugins and stuff all in the name of *effiency* can, atleast to a certain degree be counter productive
[2025-12-31T08:42:13Z] <sad_plan> also, holy fuck, emacs is just shy of 27 MILLION LOC, whereas vis is just above 37k
[2025-12-31T08:42:25Z] <kris_> yeah emacs is an entire operating system dude
[2025-12-31T08:43:09Z] <kris_> i couldn't imagine having to work on that
[2025-12-31T08:44:11Z] <kris_> also i dont really use "lots" of plugins, just 10 on vis
[2025-12-31T08:44:15Z] <sad_plan> well yeah, ive heard about all of that. emcas having its own browser, and all kinds of stupid shit
[2025-12-31T08:44:23Z] <sad_plan> thats 10 too many kris_ 
[2025-12-31T08:45:00Z] <kris_> half of them are for working on things with a ton of different files
[2025-12-31T08:45:08Z] <sad_plan> change is painfull, so if you just force yourself to use vis without plugins, youll eventually see that im right
[2025-12-31T08:45:10Z] <kris_> so i can bounce between them easily 
[2025-12-31T08:45:24Z] <kris_> i could say the same thing though!
[2025-12-31T08:45:35Z] <sad_plan> stop dividing your attention. humans arent made for that
[2025-12-31T08:46:03Z] <kris_> do you frequently put all of your code for something in just one file
[2025-12-31T08:46:57Z] <sad_plan> youll never get me, I dont want them pesky plugins. hell ive even thought about reimplementing vis, but without all the lua stuff
[2025-12-31T08:47:11Z] <sad_plan> yes, my projects are so small that theres no need for lots of files
[2025-12-31T08:47:46Z] <sad_plan> i open at most maybe 3 files. but thats very rare for me. mostly its just 1 or 2. even 2 is not that often
[2025-12-31T08:47:57Z] <kris_> i think we just approach software design very differently, the kiss package manager for example i would have probably personally split into like a different file for each feature it has
[2025-12-31T08:48:09Z] <sad_plan> most of the tie its mostly because Im patching something, or copying something
[2025-12-31T08:48:09Z] <kris_> kinda like xbps has xbps-install, xbps-remove, etc
[2025-12-31T08:48:50Z] <sad_plan> cpt is like that. carb linux's package manager. its more or less like kiss, but its more split
[2025-12-31T08:49:14Z] <kris_> also i bet you could pretty easily rip the lua stuff out of vis
[2025-12-31T08:49:18Z] <kris_> if you wanted
[2025-12-31T08:49:33Z] <sad_plan> but yes, I suppose we work more differently. im also not a huge developer. I dont reall know much C, so most of my projects is either in rc or sh
[2025-12-31T08:49:50Z] <kris_> i use quite a few different languages
[2025-12-31T08:50:19Z] <kris_> lua, posix shell, bash, go, python primarily
[2025-12-31T08:50:28Z] <kris_> very rarely C
[2025-12-31T08:50:31Z] <sad_plan> yeah. it would make it leaner of anything. removes some legacy stuff like lpeg
[2025-12-31T08:51:00Z] <kris_> shortly i need to familiarize myself with rust and cpp
[2025-12-31T08:51:06Z] <sad_plan> I would like to learn lua though, but this is because of oasis' use of it. which I suppose I could benefit from
[2025-12-31T08:51:26Z] <kris_> theres not much about lua to learn, it'd take you an evening to get writing 
[2025-12-31T08:51:50Z] <sad_plan> well sure. I just havent really looked too mch into it
[2025-12-31T08:52:10Z] <sad_plan> I do recall finding a tutorial for it on their website, but I havent looked much past that
[2025-12-31T08:52:15Z] <kris_> I'm getting familiar with it at the moment for love2d
[2025-12-31T08:52:23Z] <sad_plan> I was mostly instead going to learn C, but its going real slow
[2025-12-31T08:52:26Z] <sad_plan> nice
[2025-12-31T08:52:35Z] <kris_> i dont like big bloated ass game engines really, love is nice because its just >start writing lua
[2025-12-31T08:52:59Z] <sad_plan> hm, I see
[2025-12-31T08:53:33Z] <kris_> also yes i wish emacs wasnt the only editor that will do the things i expect
[2025-12-31T08:53:38Z] <kris_> and i mean seriously the only one
[2025-12-31T08:55:08Z] <sad_plan> how about doomemacs? is that leaner?
[2025-12-31T08:55:22Z] <kris_> doom is what i used to use, no it isnt
[2025-12-31T08:55:37Z] <kris_> its a declarative framework around emacs, like nixos type config 
[2025-12-31T08:55:42Z] <kris_> the base doesn't change
[2025-12-31T08:56:33Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2025-12-31T08:56:51Z] <kris_> the reason i left doom is because every time i tried to make changes to something lower level i had to sift through mountains of stuff someone else wrote
[2025-12-31T08:57:16Z] <kris_> given im the one who wrote my vanilla emacs config, its not a big deal to adjust things
[2025-12-31T08:58:06Z] <kris_> except for the odd occasional feature emacs has that you need but it doesnt exist anywhere on the internet except for some 65 year old dudes FTP server that isnt indexed by search engines
[2025-12-31T08:59:32Z] <kris_> like the one that solved my tab frustrations
[2025-12-31T09:02:10Z] <sad_plan> hm. I see
[2025-12-31T16:03:33Z] <midfavila> kris_: i feel seen
[2025-12-31T16:03:42Z] <midfavila> i'm so glad i'm not the only one who has to root around old FTP servers
[2025-12-31T16:03:58Z] <midfavila> friend transfer protocol
[2025-12-31T17:45:31Z] <dery> am i the only person in existence using kakoune
[2025-12-31T17:46:40Z] <dery> also yea splitting kiss into separate programs (like with the kiss extension system) would make reimplementation and such easier
[2025-12-31T17:47:12Z] <dery> i'm slowly making my own extensions for better fork management and finally looking into sandboxing
[2025-12-31T17:47:31Z] <dery> might unironically use bwrap, it seems incredibly nifty
[2025-12-31T18:39:39Z] <kris_> dery: i was considering trying to use bwrap for this as well
[2025-12-31T18:57:41Z] <kris_> midfavila: rate the config: https://github.com/kkrruumm/dotfiles/blob/main/.emacs.d/init.el
[2025-12-31T18:57:49Z] <kris_> im still trying to fix my theme but its mostly done
[2025-12-31T20:14:51Z] <midfavila> >only like a hundred lines
[2025-12-31T20:29:05Z] <kris_> dealing with themes in emacs is an exercise in pain and frustration
[2025-12-31T20:29:22Z] <kris_> just highlight my lua properly bro just do it
[2025-12-31T21:50:42Z] <midfavila> no
[2025-12-31T21:50:56Z] <midfavila> you need to define what you mean by highlighted
[2025-12-31T21:51:02Z] <midfavila> and what you mean by lua
[2025-12-31T21:51:06Z] <midfavila> and what you mean by properly
[2025-12-31T21:51:10Z] <midfavila> and what you mean by just
[2025-12-31T21:51:13Z] <midfavila> and what you mean by bro
[2025-12-31T21:51:19Z] <midfavila> and what you mean by do and it
[2025-12-31T22:54:29Z] <kris_> midfavila: treesitter:
[2025-12-31T23:01:43Z] <midfavila> wha
[2025-12-31T23:02:00Z] <midfavila> is that a package or somethin'
[2025-12-31T23:02:05Z] <midfavila> i didn't actually read your config
[2025-12-31T23:02:07Z] <midfavila> fwiw
[2025-12-31T23:03:47Z] <kris_> midfavila: treesitter is a thing that applies syntax highlighting to code in a different way than traditional
[2025-12-31T23:04:00Z] <kris_> im not really clear on how it works but it reads it more like a compiler would