[2026-01-18T00:03:30Z] <kris_again> ? full government name
[2026-01-18T00:04:26Z] <kris_> welcome back eva
[2026-01-18T00:15:47Z] <kris_again> kris are u uploading soon
[2026-01-18T00:17:15Z] <kris_> uploading what
[2026-01-18T00:17:18Z] <kris_> to youtube?
[2026-01-18T00:17:51Z] <kris_again> ya
[2026-01-18T00:17:59Z] <kris_> the fact you know that exists scares me
[2026-01-18T00:18:04Z] <kris_> unless i mentioned it before and i dont rember
[2026-01-18T00:18:14Z] <kris_again> no i dont think so
[2026-01-18T00:18:25Z] <kris_again> i like the firewall one idrk why its so relaxing to me
[2026-01-18T00:18:33Z] <kris_> ive been told that
[2026-01-18T00:18:54Z] <kris_> eventually, im too busy configuring emacs all day to do silly things like use it or do other things like youtube
[2026-01-18T00:22:01Z] <kris_> maybe i should make videos *about emacs*
[2026-01-18T00:25:03Z] <kris_> bye eva
[2026-01-18T01:34:37Z] <dery> bruh
[2026-01-18T01:34:58Z] <dery> the cheapass managed switch I bought is TERRIBLE
[2026-01-18T01:35:06Z] <dery> should've bought a ZyXEL
[2026-01-18T01:35:37Z] <dery> this crap can only be managed by HTTP, not HTTPS and can't even stop access from other vlans
[2026-01-18T01:36:15Z] <dery> looks like a similarly priced ZyXEL does indeed have those features so it's not like it's an hardware issue
[2026-01-18T01:37:00Z] <midfavila> lalw
[2026-01-18T01:37:01Z] <midfavila> lawl
[2026-01-18T01:37:13Z] <dery> fucking tp-link
[2026-01-18T01:37:30Z] <dery> at least it's a crappy 5 ports one, I have a plan on how to deal with this, but ffs
[2026-01-18T01:38:12Z] <dery> gonna take a while to convince my parents to get yet another switch after buying a whole ass router
[2026-01-18T02:21:55Z] <kris_> eva is that you
[2026-01-18T02:22:32Z] <kris_> nevermind
[2026-01-18T02:57:08Z] <dery> kris_ you're a network guru can you tell me if they're going to rob my house if I use the crappy switch to isolate by server
[2026-01-18T02:57:17Z] <dery> it does not have a way to set a management vlan
[2026-01-18T02:57:35Z] <dery> I don't think it does but it worsens significantly the "defence in depth" thing
[2026-01-18T02:57:41Z] <dery> I also heard the mfers randomly reset so that's going to be fun
[2026-01-18T02:57:48Z] <dery> but I'd appreciate your opinion
[2026-01-18T03:47:24Z] <midfavila> dery: kris_ is currently en route to your location as we speak
[2026-01-18T03:47:34Z] <midfavila> all because of that switch
[2026-01-18T03:47:46Z] <midfavila> it's so over 
[2026-01-18T03:47:58Z] <midfavila> that reminds me i need to find a decent sbc
[2026-01-18T03:48:09Z] <midfavila> or maybe mnt will make a mini mainboard or something to reuse old SoMs
[2026-01-18T03:48:43Z] <midfavila> i know they're making a desktop-oriented mainboard. maybe i could stick an LS1028A or w/e in there... 
[2026-01-18T03:50:48Z] <dery> holy shit
[2026-01-18T03:50:56Z] <dery> gotta prepare some italian coffee for kris
[2026-01-18T03:51:04Z] <dery> what do I need to do to get you en route to my location mid
[2026-01-18T03:51:13Z] <midfavila> get me an italian work permit :sob:
[2026-01-18T03:51:31Z] <dery> I wish I could, mid :sob:
[2026-01-18T03:51:45Z] <GalaxyNova> imagine not being an EU citizen
[2026-01-18T03:51:47Z] <GalaxyNova> couldn't be me
[2026-01-18T03:52:03Z] <dery> I think it's better if we don't touch that subject too much
[2026-01-18T03:52:04Z] <midfavila> look it's not my fault that the british literally genocided one half of my ancestry and used the other half to do just that >.>
[2026-01-18T03:52:10Z] <midfavila> i didn't choose to be born in the fuckin colonies
[2026-01-18T03:52:11Z] <midfavila> smdh
[2026-01-18T03:52:23Z] <GalaxyNova> heh
[2026-01-18T03:53:22Z] <midfavila> anyway if luck permits then canada could join the EEA
[2026-01-18T03:53:28Z] <midfavila> i'd be satisfied with that 
[2026-01-18T03:54:04Z] <midfavila> EUers coping that canada isn't in europe are being silly because greenland would still qualify and canada shares borders with both france and denmark on land
[2026-01-18T03:54:07Z] * midfavila sniffs
[2026-01-18T03:54:32Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila: ha yeah on like one tiny uninhabited island
[2026-01-18T03:54:40Z] <midfavila> denmark, yes, france, no
[2026-01-18T03:54:57Z] <midfavila> you can swim to france from canada and like go around and they're all being french and shit
[2026-01-18T03:55:00Z] <midfavila> it's kind of fucked up
[2026-01-18T03:55:06Z] <midfavila> secret french colony
[2026-01-18T03:55:07Z] <GalaxyNova> saint piere et miquelon
[2026-01-18T03:55:14Z] <midfavila> ye
[2026-01-18T03:55:37Z] <midfavila> *look just let us into the EU*
[2026-01-18T03:55:40Z] <midfavila> *pleae*
[2026-01-18T03:55:44Z] <midfavila> *please* even
[2026-01-18T03:56:21Z] <GalaxyNova> did you see the petition happening in alberta
[2026-01-18T03:56:28Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2026-01-18T03:56:30Z] <midfavila> it doesn't matter
[2026-01-18T03:56:31Z] <midfavila> lol
[2026-01-18T03:56:47Z] <midfavila> albertans are idiots who have no understanding of the structure of canadian confederation or our legal system
[2026-01-18T03:56:53Z] <midfavila> i mean so are most canadians 
[2026-01-18T03:56:58Z] <midfavila> but albertans are like temu texans
[2026-01-18T03:57:00Z] <dery> btw I heard that canada wants to reduce chinese EV tariffs
[2026-01-18T03:57:06Z] <midfavila> yes, it already happened
[2026-01-18T03:57:08Z] <dery> I think the seed for that is in the ground
[2026-01-18T03:57:11Z] <dery> awesome
[2026-01-18T03:57:20Z] <GalaxyNova> +1000 social credit points
[2026-01-18T03:57:27Z] <dery> there is hope
[2026-01-18T03:57:32Z] <midfavila> carney was in beijing talking to xi about dropping trudeau-era 100% ev tariffs in exchange for china dropping canola tariffs 
[2026-01-18T03:57:40Z] <midfavila> because canada is one of the planet's chief canola exporters
[2026-01-18T03:57:47Z] <dery> honestly I wouldn't have done it any differently, what can america do, tariff them even more?
[2026-01-18T03:58:01Z] <midfavila> canada needs to orient away from america as fast as possible
[2026-01-18T03:58:03Z] <midfavila> full stop
[2026-01-18T03:58:05Z] <GalaxyNova> ya
[2026-01-18T03:58:08Z] <dery> you can use the tariff weapon only so much before making it worse changes nothing
[2026-01-18T03:58:08Z] <midfavila> i maintain that canada should never have left britain
[2026-01-18T03:58:20Z] <dery> honestly
[2026-01-18T03:58:22Z] <midfavila> fucking trudeau senior you pieec of shit
[2026-01-18T03:58:25Z] <midfavila> fucking asshole
[2026-01-18T03:58:27Z] <GalaxyNova> USA has kind of gone rogue
[2026-01-18T03:58:29Z] <dery> the world needs to orient away from america ASAP
[2026-01-18T03:58:35Z] <midfavila> left britain and all for what, your personal legacy
[2026-01-18T03:58:41Z] * midfavila grinds his teeth. Loudly.
[2026-01-18T03:58:51Z] <midfavila> it wasn't even a popular policy jesus christ
[2026-01-18T03:59:11Z] <dery> like Europe FFS how long are you gonna keep a polite face, they're planning to raid a state of yours
[2026-01-18T03:59:13Z] <midfavila> GalaxyNova: Trump isn't the problem, he's a symptom
[2026-01-18T03:59:19Z] <GalaxyNova> I mean wasn't Canada independent before that
[2026-01-18T03:59:23Z] <midfavila> GalaxyNova: no
[2026-01-18T03:59:33Z] <GalaxyNova> I guess in 1980s that is when the charter of rights became a thing
[2026-01-18T03:59:52Z] <midfavila> canada was a self-governing confederation within the british empire until the constitution act of 1982 was signed into law by queen elizabeth 
[2026-01-18T04:00:08Z] <midfavila> at that point in time canada's legislative ties to britain were destroyed and we became fully independent 
[2026-01-18T04:00:25Z] <midfavila> canadians were also automatically british subjects until around 1950
[2026-01-18T04:00:58Z] <midfavila> at which point some bullshit to do with britain defining the concept of citizenship *after* canada did meant that canadians who had dominion citizenship lost empire subjectship and didn't gain citizenship rights
[2026-01-18T04:01:32Z] <midfavila> which means that e.j. a friend of mine whose grandparents are from the british raj in india qualifies for a heritage visa and passport but i don't which is *annoying*
[2026-01-18T04:01:41Z] <GalaxyNova> damn
[2026-01-18T04:01:43Z] <midfavila> where's my goddamn PASSPORT, keir "kid harmer" starmer
[2026-01-18T04:01:45Z] <midfavila> you piece of shit
[2026-01-18T04:02:02Z] <midfavila> fucking hell
[2026-01-18T04:02:19Z] <midfavila> s/e.j./e.g./
[2026-01-18T04:02:34Z] <midfavila> i dunno it's WHATEVER i guess
[2026-01-18T04:02:42Z] <midfavila> it's good that canada is moving away from america at least
[2026-01-18T04:02:51Z] <GalaxyNova> yeah I think so too
[2026-01-18T04:03:04Z] <GalaxyNova> it's kind of crazy how much political and cultural influence the US has
[2026-01-18T04:03:11Z] <midfavila> i can't tell if i hate trudeau for taking us out of the empire more than i do mulroney who reoriented us away from europe and towards america literally the second he took over
[2026-01-18T04:03:24Z] <midfavila> liberals and tories can both burn for all i care
[2026-01-18T04:03:34Z] <GalaxyNova> in Europe children celebrate halloween now for some unknowable reason
[2026-01-18T04:03:59Z] <midfavila> i saw that in britain MPs have started acting like american legislators 
[2026-01-18T04:04:11Z] <GalaxyNova> ya
[2026-01-18T04:04:11Z] <midfavila> people are saying they're using chatgpt to draft proposals and stuff
[2026-01-18T04:04:12Z] <midfavila> lmao
[2026-01-18T04:06:01Z] <midfavila> i don't know man shit is fucked
[2026-01-18T04:06:05Z] <midfavila> start buying tinned food
[2026-01-18T04:08:19Z] <GalaxyNova> time to pick up farming
[2026-01-18T04:09:35Z] <dery> GalaxyNova: re halloween you have no idea how much italy love(d?) america in the past
[2026-01-18T04:09:42Z] <midfavila> GalaxyNova: real
[2026-01-18T04:09:55Z] <dery> my mom keeps saying that "america is 50 years ahead of us" well I for sure hope it is not
[2026-01-18T04:10:05Z] <midfavila> dery: people here say america is 20 years ahead
[2026-01-18T04:10:13Z] <midfavila> unfortunately i think both sayings are correct
[2026-01-18T04:10:15Z] <GalaxyNova> dery: yeah google Prisencolinensinainciusol :skull:
[2026-01-18T04:10:27Z] <dery> lmaoooo I don't even need to do that
[2026-01-18T04:10:34Z] <dery> midfavila: :sob:
[2026-01-18T04:10:34Z] <midfavila> longenworden
[2026-01-18T04:10:44Z] <dery> it's the song by adriano celentano right?
[2026-01-18T04:10:47Z] <GalaxyNova> yep
[2026-01-18T04:11:17Z] <dery> midfavila: it's ot a longenworden
[2026-01-18T04:11:31Z] <dery> it's a nonsense song that mimics american songs
[2026-01-18T04:11:53Z] <GalaxyNova> for a while everyone wanted to be american
[2026-01-18T04:11:57Z] <midfavila> yeah just listened to a wikimedia soundbyte
[2026-01-18T04:12:10Z] <midfavila> GalaxyNova: the monkey paw curls
[2026-01-18T04:12:30Z] <GalaxyNova> lol!!
[2026-01-18T04:13:10Z] <midfavila> you get mcdonalds and fascism and in exchange we get everything 
[2026-01-18T04:13:17Z] <midfavila> re: usa
[2026-01-18T04:13:59Z] <midfavila> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAu3x9WFkc
[2026-01-18T04:14:18Z] <midfavila> never even heard of doha
[2026-01-18T04:14:26Z] <midfavila> sorry dohabros
[2026-01-18T04:14:38Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila: bro is assembling the Avengers
[2026-01-18T04:14:50Z] * midfavila shudders
[2026-01-18T05:27:02Z] <kris_> dery: what
[2026-01-18T05:27:22Z] <kris_> if your switch is vlan aware you should just be able to tag ports and then your router does the rest
[2026-01-18T06:06:18Z] <dery> yea kris_ but every client will be able to connect to the thing
[2026-01-18T06:06:23Z] <dery> and it shows this dumb http login page
[2026-01-18T06:07:07Z] <dery> I'm reasonably sure that it's reasonably tight (I mean they're not THAT incompetent I hope) but that sucks
[2026-01-18T06:07:25Z] <dery> you cannot set a maangement vlan, everything is the management vlan
[2026-01-18T17:34:28Z] <kris_again> goodmorning kris i miss u so much