[2026-01-20T12:01:51Z] <midfavila> are any of you guys cameraheads
[2026-01-20T12:45:14Z] <dylan99> midfavila: I used to do film photography and have maybe 20 or so film camera in my possession. Nowadays, I use a DSLR as I have no affordable access to a film development place.
[2026-01-20T12:45:27Z] <dylan99> cameras*
[2026-01-20T12:48:50Z] <midfavila> oh, hey dylan
[2026-01-20T12:48:53Z] <midfavila> that's totally fair
[2026-01-20T12:49:07Z] <midfavila> i've just been poking around for a basic point-and-shoot digital camera
[2026-01-20T12:49:57Z] <midfavila> i'm finally getting around to tossing my smartphone for good but i still need to take pictures once in a while, and i want something that sits somewhere between a 20$ disposable and some 2000$ beast
[2026-01-20T12:50:22Z] <midfavila> film is neat but yeah, space is a concern and i'm not super into the hobby, so
[2026-01-20T12:50:25Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2026-01-20T12:51:10Z] <dylan99> I spent a few hundred euros on a refurbished Canon EOS 80D. If you're budget constrained I think it makes more since to get a better used camera than a cheaper new one.
[2026-01-20T12:51:26Z] <midfavila> yeah, of course
[2026-01-20T12:51:33Z] <dylan99> All the photos on the wild.gr site were taken on this Canon.
[2026-01-20T12:52:02Z] <dylan99> I ditched the smartphone too :)
[2026-01-20T12:52:13Z] <midfavila> well, smartphones aren't very dylan :p
[2026-01-20T12:52:19Z] <dylan99> The whole family shares one flip phone lol
[2026-01-20T12:52:57Z] <midfavila> i've been picking up bits and pieces here and there to replace things. i've been trying to replace my phone with exclusively open hardware, and while i've been more successful than expected, the camera is a stumbling block for now
[2026-01-20T12:53:11Z] <midfavila> brb changing machine
[2026-01-20T12:55:13Z] <midfavila> back
[2026-01-20T12:55:24Z] <midfavila> i was looking at a voip handset tbh
[2026-01-20T12:56:07Z] <midfavila> i only really go to a handful of places on the regular and have internet access at all of them so cellular coverage doesn't matter to me. plus i get to save a bunch of money
[2026-01-20T12:56:28Z] <midfavila> ~500 bucks a year on the cheapest talk-text plan versus uh, 12 for an equivalent voip plan, even if i port my existing number
[2026-01-20T12:56:42Z] <dylan99> Makes sense
[2026-01-20T12:58:01Z] <midfavila> the only major thing aside from the camera that i need to work out is a consistent LTE connection. i've been fiddling with a mikrobus modem and my openwrt one but the software isn't quite there yet so i need to build a custom image at some point
[2026-01-20T12:58:09Z] <midfavila> i was yammering about it in here a while ago
[2026-01-20T12:58:27Z] <midfavila> my building is like over a century old and was never retrofitted for telecommunications, so, lol
[2026-01-20T13:00:37Z] <dylan99> I see.
[2026-01-20T13:01:14Z] <dylan99> My internet comes from a router with a sim in it. No different from tethering a smartphone to your PC in effect.
[2026-01-20T13:01:33Z] <midfavila> yeah, that's what i'm looking at
[2026-01-20T13:01:56Z] <dylan99> It's funny because it has a mobile number which has been recycled. The router still gets text messages from some guy's ex asking him to call her.
[2026-01-20T13:02:03Z] <midfavila> :V
[2026-01-20T13:02:17Z] <midfavila> poor bloke
[2026-01-20T13:02:52Z] <dylan99> The speed is pretty good though having lived in Melbourne, anything over 1mbps is amazing lol
[2026-01-20T13:03:39Z] <midfavila> i mean honestly aside from browsing the modern web even 1mbps is tolerable
[2026-01-20T13:03:43Z] <midfavila> i get 5/5 
[2026-01-20T13:04:39Z] <midfavila> from like 2020 to 2023 the only consistent way i had to get online was an old 56k fax modem direct-dialing SDF and even that was fine for 99% of what i had to do
[2026-01-20T13:07:54Z] <dylan99> Amazing
[2026-01-20T13:08:28Z] <dylan99> In Greece at least you can get by without a computer. Having a mobile phone number is something you can't get around though.
[2026-01-20T13:08:56Z] <dylan99> You just go to your accountant and he acts as middleman between you and the government.
[2026-01-20T13:09:02Z] <midfavila> it's the same here with the exception of a computer being an expectation 
[2026-01-20T13:09:39Z] <dylan99> Greece is both really progressive and really stuck in the past at the same time.
[2026-01-20T13:09:42Z] <midfavila> everything needs an email and a phone number and this and that even if you're in a government office trying to talk to a representative who manages the particular programme you want to access or get info about or whatever
[2026-01-20T13:09:53Z] <dylan99> Kinda like the Albanian AI minister.
[2026-01-20T13:09:57Z] <midfavila> canada is just a headache
[2026-01-20T13:09:57Z] <midfavila> god
[2026-01-20T13:10:00Z] <midfavila> why is it always albania
[2026-01-20T13:10:02Z] <midfavila> :v
[2026-01-20T13:10:08Z] <dylan99> https://www.euronews.com/next/2025/10/30/albanias-ai-minister-is-pregnant-with-83-digital-assistants-prime-minister-says
[2026-01-20T13:10:13Z] <dylan99> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diella_(AI_system)
[2026-01-20T13:10:17Z] <dylan99> Just read it... lol
[2026-01-20T13:10:20Z] <midfavila> is greece unitary or federated? 
[2026-01-20T13:10:40Z] <dylan99> Unitary
[2026-01-20T13:10:50Z] <midfavila> kinda jealous tbh
[2026-01-20T13:11:00Z] <dylan99> Where are you located?
[2026-01-20T13:11:02Z] <midfavila> canada is a confederation and it causes no end of headache
[2026-01-20T13:11:05Z] <dylan99> If you don't mind me asking
[2026-01-20T13:11:07Z] <midfavila> canada :p
[2026-01-20T13:11:07Z] <dylan99> Oh, Canada
[2026-01-20T13:11:09Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2026-01-20T13:11:17Z] <midfavila> "oh" is the correct response
[2026-01-20T13:11:54Z] <midfavila> some areas are the domain of the government of canada, while other matters are the domain of the regional government, and yet others are only for municipalities to deal with
[2026-01-20T13:12:24Z] <midfavila> but the structure of government is such that regional (provincial/territorial) governments are wildly more powerful in terms of internal affairs than any other level of government
[2026-01-20T13:12:33Z] <dylan99> Ah
[2026-01-20T13:12:43Z] <dylan99> I was going to say it sounds the same as here based on your previous message
[2026-01-20T13:13:25Z] <dylan99> The only regular contact I have with the government is the village president pruning trees and changing streelights
[2026-01-20T13:13:31Z] <midfavila> so anything that actually matters to people in terms of daily life, e.g. healthcare, education, shelter, jobs, and so on are almost exclusively the domain of provincial governments, who tend to be conservative and in opposition to the federal government, meaning even if you get a decent federal administration you still get austerity measures
[2026-01-20T13:13:43Z] <dylan99> Gotcha
[2026-01-20T13:13:57Z] <midfavila> (and also every time you move to a different part of the country you need to redo all your health and identification documents and such)
[2026-01-20T13:14:05Z] <dylan99> I see
[2026-01-20T13:14:13Z] <dylan99> Greece has fully digitized everything
[2026-01-20T13:14:39Z] <midfavila> worst part is that people here don't understand what level of government is responsible for what though, so you'll get people blaming the fed for provincial matters, or local authorities for regional matters, or whatever
[2026-01-20T13:14:42Z] <dylan99> Soon you will have one number that is used for everything
[2026-01-20T13:14:43Z] <midfavila> canada is weird
[2026-01-20T13:14:45Z] <midfavila> some of our stuff is digital
[2026-01-20T13:14:51Z] <midfavila> some of it is still all paper
[2026-01-20T13:14:52Z] <dylan99> Which I personally don't like
[2026-01-20T13:15:02Z] <midfavila> yeah it's not great
[2026-01-20T13:15:04Z] <dylan99> Greece is only modern on paper though
[2026-01-20T13:15:20Z] <dylan99> Reality is the opposite. Bribery, fraud, tax evasion, conspiracy, etc all as rampant as ever.
[2026-01-20T13:15:28Z] <midfavila> classic stuff
[2026-01-20T13:15:34Z] * midfavila rubs his eyes
[2026-01-20T13:15:34Z] <dylan99> But... with the shift away from cash these will probably largely disappear
[2026-01-20T13:15:45Z] <midfavila> it's okay society is going to collapse soon anyway
[2026-01-20T13:15:54Z] <dylan99> The recent agricultural payment fraud here was hilarious
[2026-01-20T13:16:01Z] <midfavila> oh?
[2026-01-20T13:16:10Z] <dylan99> People were receiving millions of euros from the EU for land, livestock and the like which never existed.
[2026-01-20T13:16:27Z] <dylan99> The government authority was in on it and received their share of the funds
[2026-01-20T13:16:59Z] <dylan99> https://www.trtworld.com/article/cfe86bb3dfa2
[2026-01-20T13:17:03Z] <midfavila> that just sounds like my province's government
[2026-01-20T13:17:46Z] <dylan99> Here's an example: Men in a village would rotate their livestock between themselves so it looked like they had larger flocks and could therefore receive more money.
[2026-01-20T13:18:00Z] <midfavila> yeap
[2026-01-20T13:18:27Z] <dylan99> Or, after a flood you would claim the flood destroyed all of your crops (which you never planted)
[2026-01-20T13:18:31Z] <midfavila> does greek politics treat farmhands, smallholders, and agrobusiness all as "farmers" btw?
[2026-01-20T13:18:39Z] <dylan99> Yeah
[2026-01-20T13:18:42Z] <midfavila> i've been thinking about that lately
[2026-01-20T13:18:44Z] <midfavila> it really bothers me
[2026-01-20T13:19:06Z] <midfavila> esp in my province there's a history of smallholders but now they're all bought up by massive agrobusiness
[2026-01-20T13:19:10Z] <midfavila> and like
[2026-01-20T13:19:14Z] <midfavila> they're not the same thing?
[2026-01-20T13:19:14Z] <dylan99> One thing I don't like is that you can't register a pickup truck as a regular vehicle and drive it anywhere.
[2026-01-20T13:19:22Z] <midfavila> they have opposing class interests
[2026-01-20T13:19:35Z] <dylan99> My pickup truck has to be registered as an agricultural vehicle and is therefore only allowed to be used for agricultural purposes.
[2026-01-20T13:19:41Z] <midfavila> idk are trucks in greece like they are in NA?
[2026-01-20T13:19:45Z] <dylan99> I can't drive it into cities unless it is for business.
[2026-01-20T13:19:59Z] <dylan99> How are they in NA?
[2026-01-20T13:20:04Z] <midfavila> well
[2026-01-20T13:20:11Z] <midfavila> the most popular model of vehicle in NA is the F150
[2026-01-20T13:20:16Z] <midfavila> which is approaching 7000lbs
[2026-01-20T13:20:23Z] <midfavila> in some modern models
[2026-01-20T13:20:28Z] <dylan99> Greece is old world so the cars are all tiny
[2026-01-20T13:20:35Z] <midfavila> and they're so tall you literally cannot see people in front of you 
[2026-01-20T13:20:44Z] <dylan99> My mum has a Chevrolet Trailblazer and it's one of the biggest cars on the road
[2026-01-20T13:20:46Z] <midfavila> also the beds are tiny for some reason???
[2026-01-20T13:20:56Z] <midfavila> so they're not even useful for like, truck things
[2026-01-20T13:21:13Z] <dylan99> Beds are normal unless you mean divans or futons
[2026-01-20T13:21:19Z] <midfavila> great for spinning out of control on poorly-maintained winter roads though
[2026-01-20T13:21:28Z] <dylan99> I have a 70s Datsun
[2026-01-20T13:21:41Z] <midfavila> oh that's adorable
[2026-01-20T13:21:46Z] <midfavila> see those are fine
[2026-01-20T13:22:13Z] <midfavila> one sec i want to see if there's a datsun on this site that compares vehicle sizes...
[2026-01-20T13:22:32Z] <dylan99> It has a bench seat so I can seat three
[2026-01-20T13:22:50Z] <dylan99> The insurance is like 90 euros per year
[2026-01-20T13:22:56Z] <midfavila> darn no datsun trucks
[2026-01-20T13:23:22Z] <midfavila> that doesn't seem too bad
[2026-01-20T13:23:30Z] <midfavila> i don't have a car, i just cycle
[2026-01-20T13:23:46Z] <midfavila> buying a new car here would start at at least 30kCAD
[2026-01-20T13:23:56Z] <midfavila> used isn't much better
[2026-01-20T13:23:58Z] <dylan99> Yeah... this car was 2k
[2026-01-20T13:24:16Z] <midfavila> if i was going to get a vehicle it would probably just be a honda super cub
[2026-01-20T13:24:21Z] <dylan99> I cycle too but not as a mode of transportation
[2026-01-20T13:24:26Z] <midfavila> that's fair
[2026-01-20T13:24:33Z] <midfavila> it's definitely not ideal in all situations
[2026-01-20T13:24:37Z] <dylan99> I do it for exercise but I prefer running
[2026-01-20T13:25:07Z] <midfavila> i cycle both because it's much more affordable and because i otherwise don't have time in my schedule to get sufficient exercise
[2026-01-20T13:25:08Z] <dylan99> The nearest supermarket is 25km away from where I live for reference.
[2026-01-20T13:25:16Z] <midfavila> yeah that's not great
[2026-01-20T13:25:25Z] <midfavila> i mean you could do that on a bike but it would be a day trip
[2026-01-20T13:25:43Z] <midfavila> i used to cycle to the next town over where i lived previously and that was around 22km one way on a dirt road
[2026-01-20T13:25:44Z] <dylan99> But, the mountain is in my backyard
[2026-01-20T13:25:49Z] <dylan99> So it's worth it
[2026-01-20T13:25:55Z] <midfavila> fair
[2026-01-20T13:27:11Z] <midfavila> https://www.carsized.com/en-us/cars/compare/caterham-seven-1973-roadster-vs-ford-f150-2017-4-door-pickup-supercrew-5.5-raptor/
[2026-01-20T13:27:16Z] <midfavila> just as a bit of an extreme example
[2026-01-20T13:27:38Z] <dylan99> Massive
[2026-01-20T13:27:46Z] <midfavila> there are a few vintage car people in my city who drive roadsters but most people drive F150s or similar
[2026-01-20T13:27:57Z] <midfavila> even the cops have started getting *patrol* trucks
[2026-01-20T13:27:58Z] <midfavila> which,
[2026-01-20T13:27:59Z] <midfavila> ???
[2026-01-20T13:28:02Z] <midfavila> ?????????
[2026-01-20T13:28:03Z] <dylan99> lol
[2026-01-20T13:28:06Z] <midfavila> SERIOUSLY
[2026-01-20T13:28:15Z] <midfavila> i feel like i'm going insane every time i see one
[2026-01-20T13:28:18Z] <midfavila> like what they hell dude
[2026-01-20T13:28:24Z] <dylan99> The police here never patrol. They only come when called.
[2026-01-20T13:28:36Z] <midfavila> the cops here don't do anything *but* "patrol"
[2026-01-20T13:28:42Z] <dylan99> Of course it's different in Athens
[2026-01-20T13:28:47Z] <midfavila> they're always there when you don't need them, and never there when you do
[2026-01-20T13:29:00Z] <dylan99> No one wears seatbelts in Greece either.
[2026-01-20T13:29:01Z] <midfavila> and they get a full fucking third of the city's entire yearly budget to boot
[2026-01-20T13:29:21Z] <midfavila> roads? who needs 'em. transit? fuck it. cops need their new trucks.
[2026-01-20T13:29:22Z] <dylan99> The police here have next to no budget
[2026-01-20T13:29:32Z] <midfavila> probably for the better...
[2026-01-20T13:29:42Z] <dylan99> There is no crime really
[2026-01-20T13:29:52Z] <dylan99> They mostly respond to traffic accidents
[2026-01-20T13:31:52Z] <dylan99> Anyway. Nice talking to you. I might be on later o/
[2026-01-20T13:32:58Z] <midfavila> yeah, see you around
[2026-01-20T13:33:02Z] <midfavila> i have to get to work soon anyway
[2026-01-20T18:28:31Z] <kris_> i think id be fine with like 50mbps
[2026-01-20T18:28:40Z] <kris_> I'm a bit of a seeder so id like to have good upload
[2026-01-20T18:28:44Z] <kris_> gotta spread the love
[2026-01-20T19:32:40Z] <midfavila> just saw someone call neocities 'social media'
[2026-01-20T19:32:43Z] * midfavila cringes
[2026-01-20T22:00:59Z] <sad_plan> kris_: seeding is important. i dont think ive ever seeded as much as I do nowdays. I have now seedd several TB just last years. i think im >10-15TB now last time I checked
[2026-01-20T22:01:11Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: maybe they just wish it was 
[2026-01-20T22:18:47Z] <kris_> idk how much ive seeded
[2026-01-20T22:18:55Z] <kris_> i dont have port forwarding so its a little limited
[2026-01-20T22:19:02Z] <kris_> but yeah its important
[2026-01-20T22:23:07Z] <sad_plan> yeah me to. Im not sure my router properly supports it, either that it just does it by default, and I never realised it. never really spent too much time looking at it
[2026-01-20T22:23:23Z] <sad_plan> router is just some pesky one we got from the isp anyway
[2026-01-20T22:23:32Z] <sad_plan> so theres no room for tinkering too much really