[2026-01-23T03:51:43Z] <GalaxyNova> gonna install kiss again on my rpi
[2026-01-23T10:01:03Z] <sewn> kris_: yes you can
[2026-01-23T10:01:12Z] <sewn> speaking from experience
[2026-01-23T18:03:02Z] <kris_> https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs
[2026-01-23T18:22:04Z] <sad_plan> looks like a step in the right direction at the very least
[2026-01-23T18:22:14Z] <sad_plan> now maybe rust can suck a bit less
[2026-01-23T18:22:30Z] <sad_plan> whenever this comes more into fruition
[2026-01-23T18:53:57Z] <dery> I'm gonna be honest, with vendored dependencies rust does not suck that much at all, from a packager's perspective
[2026-01-23T18:54:17Z] <dery> but yes, please more compilers
[2026-01-23T18:54:24Z] <dery> is this project official?
[2026-01-23T18:54:35Z] <dery> > This is a full alternative implementation of the Rust language on top of GCC with the goal to become fully upstream with the GNU toolchain.
[2026-01-23T18:54:36Z] <dery> niceee
[2026-01-23T18:55:53Z] <dery> damn I should really take a look at rust, all in all it actually sounds pretty sweet
[2026-01-23T18:56:24Z] <dery> people seem to be in a love-hate relationship with the borrow checker but that's to be expected
[2026-01-23T19:58:00Z] <sad_plan> if deps where vendored, or otherwise better listed, like they are with most C projects, I would probably hate rust and go less
[2026-01-23T19:58:38Z] <sad_plan> Ive always hated when Im building i.e. github-cli, and have the sources on disk, only to have to download like 50 more packages when im going to build the package. terribly annoying imo
[2026-01-23T19:58:57Z] <sad_plan> I like being able to download everything beforehand and build it without requiring internet
[2026-01-23T19:59:16Z] <sad_plan> but maybe im just wierd about it
[2026-01-23T19:59:18Z] * sad_plan shrugs
[2026-01-23T20:00:06Z] <sad_plan> also on another note; seeing as I kinda ruined my keyboard yesterday, im kinda looking for suggestions for a new laptop. what do you guys suggest?
[2026-01-23T20:00:30Z] <sad_plan> appart from mnt reform (looking at you mid), or old thinkpads
[2026-01-23T20:01:42Z] <sad_plan> newer thinkpads seems popular, dell xps, hp probook or elitebook seems to reoccur for suggestions when looking on r/linuxhardware
[2026-01-23T20:02:35Z] <kris_> the new intel panther lake stuff is fucking incredible
[2026-01-23T20:02:40Z] <kris_> id wait for a decent thinkpad to come out with that
[2026-01-23T20:02:41Z] <sad_plan> also appart from system76, starlabs, novacustoms, tuxedo perhaps?
[2026-01-23T20:02:55Z] <sad_plan> hm, maybe. wont they be really expencieve?
[2026-01-23T20:03:49Z] <sad_plan> im trying to not spent too much money on this machine, but I could probably justify it, seeing as I use the dam thing almost every day when im at work lol
[2026-01-23T20:06:36Z] <kris_> they may be
[2026-01-23T20:06:46Z] <kris_> they're like the best performing laptop cpus ever + get the best battery life
[2026-01-23T20:06:53Z] <kris_> people have been clocking over 24hrs of battery life
[2026-01-23T20:06:58Z] <kris_> with like generic office use
[2026-01-23T20:07:06Z] <kris_> but they're not afflicted by arm, its still just x86_64
[2026-01-23T20:27:21Z] <sad_plan> hm, that sounds decent
[2026-01-23T20:28:10Z] <sad_plan> ill kee an eye out for it. I dont *have* to get a new laptop. its just that Im now missing the 8 keycap, and couple others, but theyre not really that important
[2026-01-23T20:28:32Z] <sad_plan> so its mostly just an annoyance when I have to write an 8, or a *
[2026-01-23T20:29:18Z] <sad_plan> also its 7 years or so, so I suppose im open for an upgrade at this point :p
[2026-01-23T20:43:01Z] <kris_> you're more than valid to upgrade
[2026-01-23T20:43:06Z] <kris_> i dont think ive used a single computer for that amount of time ever
[2026-01-23T20:43:31Z] <kris_> though im going to attempt it with my current desktop build
[2026-01-23T20:43:39Z] <kris_> finally have something high end for its time
[2026-01-23T20:55:23Z] <sad_plan> yeah. I think i had my previous desktop for over 10 years before upgrading aswell :p
[2026-01-23T20:56:00Z] <sad_plan> but yeha, I get it. having something decent makes one able to use it for longer. in theory anyhow
[2026-01-23T21:02:10Z] <sad_plan> seems like dell's new xps laptops should come with panther lake cpus. nice
[2026-01-23T21:02:24Z] <sad_plan> and oled displays too
[2026-01-23T21:02:31Z] <sad_plan> sounds like an expensive laptop
[2026-01-23T21:02:35Z] <sad_plan> https://www.techspot.com/news/110831-dell-new-xps-laptops-pair-panther-lake-cpus.html
[2026-01-23T21:04:43Z] <sad_plan> damn, 40+ hours of local video playback. impressive