[2026-02-12T00:03:34Z] I'm on 2.52 [2026-02-12T00:04:32Z] maybe they changed som behaviour here. dunno, but atleast I now have some command that gives me a clean slate for submodules [2026-02-12T00:05:38Z] dunno either [2026-02-12T00:05:46Z] that's the important thing tho, that you got something working [2026-02-12T00:06:03Z] exacly [2026-02-12T00:06:10Z] just make lots of packages and build them once in a while, any eventual issue will hopefully pop out then [2026-02-12T00:08:50Z] yep. ill probably make a repo tomorrow, and start writing more buildscripts for it. probably going to run into all kinds of breakages. but I kinda like fixing stuff, so looking forward to it [2026-02-12T00:09:22Z] but first, fix those few things we've touched on. [2026-02-12T00:09:51Z] yeye [2026-02-12T00:10:26Z] :D [2026-02-12T02:32:19Z] sad_plan: i know you don't like go as a language but this is a little different [2026-02-12T02:32:32Z] now i just feel like it's privacy invasive the moment i decide i want to contribute to it [2026-02-12T02:32:47Z] just sucks because i *really* like go as a language [2026-02-12T04:44:51Z] I need some help, I'm having issues with hotplug [2026-02-12T04:45:10Z] I am not sure if it is with libudev-zero, seatd or dwl [2026-02-12T04:45:32Z] Do you guys change /etc/mdev.conf after installing? [2026-02-12T07:26:20Z] elisoli yea, i do some tweaks [2026-02-12T07:26:31Z] what kind of hotplug issues? [2026-02-12T07:27:24Z] when i disconnect my keyboard and reconnect, on the tty it works well, but if i had a wayland compositor opened it won't identify, i can't even switch ttys [2026-02-12T09:20:34Z] do anyone here speaks toki pona? [2026-02-12T09:20:38Z] i am thinking about learning it [2026-02-12T09:40:02Z] hey dery :) [2026-02-12T09:40:18Z] * elisoli stares at your soul [2026-02-12T11:29:41Z] New irc features on libera over the next weeks https://libera.chat/news/new-and-upcoming-features-3 [2026-02-12T12:26:19Z] kris_: main my issue with go, aswell as rust for that matter is mostly the packaging system. I dont like the fact that you can clone a repo, thinking you ahve everything you need, but no, upon building, it pull in a bajillion dependencies. same with tarballs because devs never vendor dependencies like I wish they did. that on top of the bootstrapping process. rust is terrible here because it [2026-02-12T12:26:21Z] takes a full work day unless you have a really beefy machine. go is less bad here, but its worse in the way that it requires, what, 5 version now? to bootstrap the latest version. which in my mind is just ridiclous.. [2026-02-12T12:27:09Z] kris_: the languages itself I cant speak for, as ive never written anything on neither go or rust. so I cant speak for much outside of what ive already said. [2026-02-12T12:27:51Z] i dont mind the dependencies thing [2026-02-12T12:28:06Z] i can't speak to the rust bootstrapping thing, compile times aren't really a factor for me because i'm spoiled for hardware [2026-02-12T12:28:31Z] its convinient if anything, but it requires internet, which I like less [2026-02-12T12:28:39Z] or, well, i mind the dependencies thing in the context that it violates what i think should be available in a build sandbox [2026-02-12T12:28:45Z] that being no networking [2026-02-12T12:28:54Z] xbps-src handles this externally and still restricts network in the actual build env [2026-02-12T12:29:23Z] yeah, its probably less of an issue on my desktop, but on my laptop, its takes atleast couple hours or so. [2026-02-12T12:29:37Z] well if i were using a source distro id target x86_64-v3 and just use my big machine as a binhost more or less [2026-02-12T12:29:45Z] instead of march=native [2026-02-12T12:30:10Z] im unclear on how that even works on my desktops cpu since as far as i gather its a dual march cpu [2026-02-12T12:30:50Z] ive been thinking about doing this myself, but I dont have a server, and someone would be breathing down my kneck about leaving my desktop all day. so I cant really ssh into it, to build everything, and pull it to my laptop [2026-02-12T12:30:54Z] what cpu is this again? [2026-02-12T12:31:04Z] i have a core ultra 7 265k in my desktop [2026-02-12T12:31:12Z] 8 "performance" cores and 12 "efficiency" cores [2026-02-12T12:31:28Z] said efficiency cores are fast as fuck though so they're absolutely still "real" cores [2026-02-12T12:31:37Z] iirc they're like 10th gen intel in performance [2026-02-12T12:34:03Z] hm. what does `gcc -v -E -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null -march=native 2>&1 | grep /cc1 | grep mtune` output? [2026-02-12T12:34:13Z] sec lemme install gcc [2026-02-12T12:34:40Z] unral [2026-02-12T12:34:43Z] -mtune=arrowlake-s [2026-02-12T12:35:10Z] hm, funny. its not even listed on gentoo wiki :') [2026-02-12T12:37:08Z] in any case, as you said, you can just use -march=x86_64-v3 if everything supports it. [2026-02-12T12:37:20Z] yeah, i don't have any systems older than that [2026-02-12T12:37:27Z] I dont think my laptop even supports v3 [2026-02-12T12:37:44Z] then build for v2 and build selectively for v3 [2026-02-12T12:37:50Z] the only things that actually benefit from v3 really are cryptography related [2026-02-12T12:37:56Z] you get more iterations out of cryptsetup with it [2026-02-12T12:37:59Z] that's about it [2026-02-12T12:38:31Z] gentoo here is also really silly. my laptop says its znver1, but gentoo says its znver2. [2026-02-12T12:38:55Z] easy to check what your hardware supports. just do this: `/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --help | grep x86-64-v` [2026-02-12T12:39:03Z] I would, but its inconvineint having to pull out my laptop to sync stuff all the time. also, I dont update very often on my laptop anymore :p [2026-02-12T12:39:10Z] Ozymandias42: that is also correct [2026-02-12T12:39:16Z] v2 has a stepping with aes too [2026-02-12T12:39:20Z] except, I dont belive that actually works on musl [2026-02-12T12:39:29Z] alteast not on my setup [2026-02-12T12:39:49Z] it doesn't [2026-02-12T12:39:52Z] right [2026-02-12T12:41:13Z] i may need to try out kiss-ng [2026-02-12T12:41:22Z] im rather curious, the only issue i really had with kiss' default PM is the lack of sandboxed builds [2026-02-12T13:41:57Z] wait, what, his still working on it? damn. I thought kiss-ng was dead in the water long time ago [2026-02-12T13:43:00Z] seems like testuser is back in action. he didnt have any activity for some time. but it seems his back now [2026-02-12T13:44:34Z] atleast in the regards to kiss. kiss-glibc hasnt been worked on for quite some time, and he was the one maintaining it [2026-02-12T13:45:12Z] hm. kiss-ng looks almost complete. only lacks couple things it seems