[2026-02-15T00:08:34Z] honestly, I dont get why you supposedly need all of these packages. what do you need python-elftools for or pefile? what about systemd-boot-efistub? [2026-02-15T00:08:46Z] what about buki? doesnt kiss suffice here? [2026-02-15T00:09:07Z] right, it was the uki thing, not the installer I saw on your website [2026-02-15T00:09:46Z] you dont need wget, curl does the same thing, and you already have curl [2026-02-15T00:12:41Z] the packages you're mentioning aren't the ones that were problematic [2026-02-15T00:12:49Z] i mean systemd-boot-efistub was but i need that for my UKIs [2026-02-15T00:12:56Z] i never got elogind working [2026-02-15T00:13:31Z] I dont belive you need either of those things [2026-02-15T00:13:49Z] elogind is needed for polkit [2026-02-15T00:13:52Z] which is needed for various things [2026-02-15T00:14:05Z] systemd-boot-efistub is outright required for UKI booting [2026-02-15T00:15:34Z] you dont need polkit either [2026-02-15T00:17:14Z] now that i know crux exists i can copy their homework and probably get everything working [2026-02-15T00:17:18Z] because crux has everything i need packaged already [2026-02-15T00:17:29Z] i just havent had the time to revisit it [2026-02-15T00:21:27Z] well sure. I still dont belive you need half of what you say you need. id argue that most linux folks, unless you have some super specific needs due to langs outside of C and C++. most users should technically manage with what oasis provides. without taking into account that netsurf doest really cover ones basic browser need [2026-02-15T00:21:48Z] i use flatpak for everything so its just base system stuff that's required [2026-02-15T00:22:10Z] but i do want to use the software i want to use [2026-02-15T00:22:11Z] even with specific language needs, those are still fetchable from alpine, or just using conty. or flatpak as you just said [2026-02-15T00:22:17Z] like using my computer shouldnt piss me off man [2026-02-15T00:22:22Z] obivously. I do to [2026-02-15T00:22:23Z] meaning i should use the software that i like [2026-02-15T00:22:39Z] I get it. thats probably the main issue with people. one setup isnt pretty enough i.e. [2026-02-15T00:22:52Z] i dont need much compared to 99% of people [2026-02-15T00:23:07Z] i only have 731 packages installed on my void desktop install ive had for a year [2026-02-15T00:23:12Z] and most of that is shit i forgot i installed and havent touched for months [2026-02-15T00:23:25Z] 99% dont need full disk encryption :p [2026-02-15T00:23:26Z] or random nonsense im playing with [2026-02-15T00:23:31Z] I have less than 200 packages [2026-02-15T00:23:34Z] getting raided by the cops changes how you see things [2026-02-15T00:23:38Z] i dont expect you to relate [2026-02-15T00:23:56Z] and no, i'm not telling that story in here [2026-02-15T00:24:05Z] perhaps. but having encrypted /home should suffice here [2026-02-15T00:24:16Z] I didnt expect you to [2026-02-15T00:24:23Z] nah i go all in, fully encrypted / and /boot not split off into its own partition [2026-02-15T00:24:32Z] the only exposed file on my disk is my UKI and that's protected with self-signed secure boot [2026-02-15T00:24:32Z] although I am curios seeing as you mentioned it :p [2026-02-15T00:24:33Z] via sbctl [2026-02-15T00:24:43Z] so the only thing im trusting is my firmware [2026-02-15T00:24:57Z] have you ever tried qubes? [2026-02-15T00:25:01Z] this is a very simple setup though its not as complicated as you'd think [2026-02-15T00:25:07Z] its simpler than using a bootloader like grub infact [2026-02-15T00:25:10Z] and FAR more secure [2026-02-15T00:25:33Z] and nah i havent that's too far than what is necessary imo [2026-02-15T00:25:37Z] kind of a waste of resources [2026-02-15T00:25:51Z] and annoying to use as it depends on x11 [2026-02-15T00:26:37Z] perhaps. yeah, qubes is pretty mental if you ask me. id argue if you really think you need qubes, youre wrong, you need grapheneOS with the newer pixel's desktop mode. theres even a terminal app now, so youc an run full blown linux in a VM [2026-02-15T00:27:55Z] and with proper passwords/pins in place. you should be able to hand tsa your phone, and theres no way they get into it because of how the ratelimiter works [2026-02-15T00:28:07Z] my phone is the least secure thing on earth [2026-02-15T00:28:10Z] i can't even relock my bootloader [2026-02-15T00:28:16Z] it's very private though, i'm using lineageos + microg [2026-02-15T00:30:16Z] ...im going to stop myself from arguing with you on that. outside of saying privacy also requires security. lineageOS is like an unlocked door or shower curtains. yes you cant see whats behind it, but it requires next to nothing to figure it out. but lets leave it at that, because I know we dont agree on the whole GOS thing :p [2026-02-15T00:30:21Z] aswell as microG [2026-02-15T00:30:38Z] i don't care to argue about that either [2026-02-15T00:30:43Z] it's nerd disagreement about approach to things [2026-02-15T00:30:52Z] i used divestos for a bit until the dev vanished which was way better [2026-02-15T00:32:12Z] i don't have the money to buy a new phone and if i did it'd probably be a fairphone and not a pixel though [2026-02-15T00:33:15Z] ive been using my current oneplus 8t since like 2020 [2026-02-15T00:34:14Z] you're all mental for using smart anything [2026-02-15T00:34:50Z] the real the-feds-have-bugs-under-my-skin-monitoring-me move is to get a landline or some shit [2026-02-15T00:34:54Z] or ideally just not have a phone [2026-02-15T00:34:59Z] don't need one [2026-02-15T00:35:12Z] aside from like, a number for banks and shit [2026-02-15T00:35:14Z] you don't [2026-02-15T00:35:32Z] i mean i don't either really but i use it for a lot of stuff [2026-02-15T00:35:39Z] and it's also kind of my out in social situations [2026-02-15T00:35:44Z] gives me something to look at [2026-02-15T00:35:46Z] have you considered [2026-02-15T00:35:49Z] - a book [2026-02-15T00:35:52Z] - a journal [2026-02-15T00:35:55Z] - a music player [2026-02-15T00:36:00Z] - leaving the social situation [2026-02-15T00:36:33Z] if you squint really hard at a book people assume you're trying to focus and they leave you alone [2026-02-15T00:36:46Z] carry the entirety of capital with you [2026-02-15T00:37:13Z] im good honestly [2026-02-15T00:37:24Z] my phone doesn't do too much [2026-02-15T00:37:34Z] tracks u every time you go into a store [2026-02-15T00:37:35Z] music player, notes in vim via termux, its my camera [2026-02-15T00:37:47Z] irc client and discord [2026-02-15T00:37:57Z] past that nothing really [2026-02-15T00:38:00Z] in short it does a lot [2026-02-15T00:38:03Z] one might say too much even [2026-02-15T00:38:12Z] compared to how most people use their phones i'm pretty clean mid and im proud of that [2026-02-15T00:38:24Z] people irl ask me constantly if i have XYZ social media and act like i'm an anomaly for saying no [2026-02-15T00:38:31Z] yeah i've seen that people spend like 8 hours on their phone or something a day which is crazy [2026-02-15T00:38:43Z] i browse r/greentext for like 20 minutes per day on my phone and thats it [2026-02-15T00:38:45Z] my screen time is very low [2026-02-15T00:38:49Z] i use my phone for phone things [2026-02-15T00:38:51Z] namely [2026-02-15T00:38:52Z] part of that is because like [2026-02-15T00:38:53Z] calling [2026-02-15T00:38:55Z] and being called [2026-02-15T00:38:58Z] typing on a touchscreen pisses me the fuck off [2026-02-15T00:39:54Z] fair [2026-02-15T00:40:40Z] for some reason that reminded me of people online complaining that the bearings in the ploopy trackballs are audible [2026-02-15T00:40:43Z] if i really felt like it i could just put my sim card in my t480 [2026-02-15T00:40:48Z] because thats a thing it has apparently [2026-02-15T00:40:50Z] and how much seeing that annoyed me [2026-02-15T00:40:50Z] oh [2026-02-15T00:40:51Z] yeah [2026-02-15T00:40:57Z] i've had laptops with SIMs in them before [2026-02-15T00:40:59Z] they can be fussy tho [2026-02-15T00:41:05Z] i had a toughbook one [2026-02-15T00:41:41Z] but yeah people are going on like the ploopy sounds like a jet engine and it's barely audible unless you're throwing the ball like crazy [2026-02-15T00:41:46Z] and it's like [2026-02-15T00:42:23Z] idk if i were to buy the ploopy headphones id probably have to mod them quite a bit [2026-02-15T00:42:27Z] ...get over it? or wear headphones? or... lube the bearings? or... don't be so aggressive with it? like how is your house even that quiet in the first place that you can hear the bearings? [2026-02-15T00:42:28Z] i dont like open back headphones [2026-02-15T00:42:33Z] oh neither do i [2026-02-15T00:42:33Z] oh you dont mean their headphones [2026-02-15T00:42:36Z] no [2026-02-15T00:42:38Z] the trackball [2026-02-15T00:42:47Z] the headphones are annoying for other reasons [2026-02-15T00:42:52Z] id probably just get an elecom trackball [2026-02-15T00:42:56Z] the trackball is really nice tho [2026-02-15T00:42:56Z] if i wanted a trackball [2026-02-15T00:43:08Z] i'm an elecom trackball + hhkb type of guy [2026-02-15T00:43:13Z] god i want an hhkb [2026-02-15T00:43:41Z] i might get my friends, he doesnt want much for it because a lot of his rubber domes are fucked up [2026-02-15T00:45:19Z] idk i've never seen the appeal of an hhkb [2026-02-15T00:45:26Z] the whole appeal is the topre switch [2026-02-15T00:45:33Z] rubber domes without a shit ton of wobble [2026-02-15T00:45:43Z] with zero feedback and far too light of a weight [2026-02-15T00:46:00Z] rubber domes are just peak [2026-02-15T00:46:10Z] taking away your internet privileges for two weeks kris [2026-02-15T00:46:13Z] the classic thinkpad keyboards feel pretty good [2026-02-15T00:46:20Z] have you ever used springs [2026-02-15T00:46:27Z] i mean [2026-02-15T00:46:32Z] all mx style switches have springs [2026-02-15T00:46:38Z] buckling spring switches. [2026-02-15T00:46:45Z] i have not because the sound pisses me off [2026-02-15T00:47:15Z] idk what to tell you then [2026-02-15T00:47:21Z] fair enough ig [2026-02-15T00:47:27Z] you'd probably hate the way my keyboard sounds [2026-02-15T00:47:35Z] im guessing [2026-02-15T00:47:37Z] to me it sounds ok [2026-02-15T00:48:09Z] https://share.boba.best/raw/JdzCJpzm [2026-02-15T00:48:10Z] if you want to listen [2026-02-15T00:48:21Z] this keyboard is the result of like weeks of research and hsit [2026-02-15T00:48:25Z] *personally* i want keyboards to sound as much like a typewriter as possible [2026-02-15T00:48:32Z] and to feel, as well [2026-02-15T00:51:34Z] honestly i think my switches are just a bit too heavy [2026-02-15T00:51:39Z] they're like 80 grams to bottom out [2026-02-15T00:51:57Z] but im too lazy to swap the springs [2026-02-15T00:52:41Z] its kinda fatiguing for me but at the same time now other switches that are in the more normal 60g category feel way too light [2026-02-15T00:52:47Z] 70g feels too light as well [2026-02-15T01:51:24Z] think that arguing for no phone due to privacy is kinda defeatist now with grapheneOS being a thing. but thats just me. Im somewhat like kris_ in regards to phone use, although I probably have more stuff on mine. I do have some social there, because of my circle of friends appearantly cant be arsed to pick up the phone and call, or text me instead of snapchat.. [2026-02-15T01:52:40Z] I kinda wish I was more like mid in this case. be able to either have no phone, or have something like his esp32 phone. I forgot the name at the top of my head. I also keep seeing people stop having sim cards in their phones, which to me sounds nice to me, but I dont think my family would be very impressed by that [2026-02-15T02:30:43Z] i'm personally happy with the balance i've struck [2026-02-15T02:30:56Z] people can SMS text me, use IRC, or use discord- those are the options, i will not add more [2026-02-15T02:33:28Z] I get that. dont get me wrong, im not dissatisfied with my phone usage. I started adding emulators to my phone some time ago, and waiting for a bracket to use my dualsense controller with it. which im really looking forward to. [2026-02-15T02:34:35Z] i just have a gba emulator on mine with 1 game, minish cap [2026-02-15T02:46:38Z] never heard of that exact game [2026-02-15T02:47:25Z] never had any of the handheld consoles, so I never really played much of it either [2026-02-15T02:47:41Z] i never had a gba but minish cap is one of my favorite zelda games if you're into that [2026-02-15T02:47:47Z] classic style zelda not the new garbage like breath of the wild [2026-02-15T03:30:45Z] I did play some of the zelda games, but not really extensivly. probably because I never owned either of them myself. Ive always been somewhat curious about them, but since I never owned them, I suppose it never hit me, or how im suppose to put it.. [2026-02-15T03:31:58Z] I rememeber breath of the wild somewhat fondly though. a friend had it on his gamecube. [2026-02-15T03:32:03Z] wait no, it was wind waker [2026-02-15T03:32:27Z] yeah windwaker was good [2026-02-15T03:32:30Z] only played those 2 on n64, and windwaker [2026-02-15T03:32:49Z] i had an n64 as a kid, had ocarina of time [2026-02-15T03:32:51Z] yeah, it was decent. never finished it though. kinda just player a few hours in the middle of it, since a friend had it :') [2026-02-15T03:33:03Z] I should totaly download that again, so I can emulate it [2026-02-15T03:33:33Z] you should [2026-02-15T03:33:58Z] shame that vimms lair is gone [2026-02-15T03:34:11Z] Ill add it to my seemingly endless list of games, music, series or series I intent to check out [2026-02-15T03:34:20Z] what? I was there earlier today. wym gone? [2026-02-15T03:34:26Z] most of the roms got taken down [2026-02-15T03:34:29Z] iirc [2026-02-15T03:34:34Z] like a few months ago [2026-02-15T03:35:19Z] oooh, yeah I know he took down some nintento roms after some dmc bs [2026-02-15T03:36:05Z] hm, wierd. theres nothing about it in the news on the site. [2026-02-15T03:36:30Z] I couldve sworn I read about some nintento stuff got removed due to.. well nintento being a turd as usual [2026-02-15T03:36:32Z] there are other places to get roms now, obviously people backed up the entire thing before anything happened [2026-02-15T03:36:39Z] idk how much about this i'm allowed to say in here [2026-02-15T03:36:50Z] only mentioned vimms because it's mostly dead [2026-02-15T03:37:02Z] myrient is pretty good. that is once you figure out how to navigate the damn site [2026-02-15T03:37:27Z] nah, Ive used vimms for most of my stuff lately, so dead isnt the righth word here [2026-02-15T03:40:34Z] fair enough [2026-02-15T03:40:40Z] i just have the few games i care about locally [2026-02-15T03:40:44Z] have had them for a few years [2026-02-15T04:05:44Z] I see. I mostly cared about games I did play when I was younger, but I see that I keep expanding into other consoles I didnt have personally. games friends had, or games I heard of but never played myself, or just games I stumble upon as I go [2026-02-15T04:06:07Z] I keep finding new stuff as I come across content about emulation [2026-02-15T04:07:47Z] i dont really play games anymore these days [2026-02-15T04:19:57Z] it comes and goes for me. sometimes theres no games for some times, other times its games for months at a time. it all depends wether or not me having games to play. right now I have.. tons [2026-02-15T04:26:37Z] oh dear finally soju has added docs for just plain sasl auth from the jump [2026-02-15T04:26:47Z] when i initially spun up this bouncer im using rn i just messaged nickserv to log in [2026-02-15T04:26:54Z] which sucks because they dont let you do that if you're behind a mullvad IP [2026-02-15T04:27:02Z] which is why im paying for my own vpn box via hetzner [2026-02-15T04:43:14Z] thats good news if you ask me [2026-02-15T04:57:39Z] yeah it is so i might take down my bouncer later to set it up behind mullvad since im *also* paying for that right now for other things [2026-02-15T05:00:45Z] nice [2026-02-15T05:01:08Z] only saves me like $5/mo but i can put that towards other things [2026-02-15T05:01:19Z] im considering getting a proper large VPS from netcup so i can host game servers and stuff [2026-02-15T05:01:29Z] and cancelling my deezer subscription [2026-02-15T05:01:31Z] and a few other things [2026-02-15T05:21:54Z] sad_plan: wiphone [2026-02-15T05:22:02Z] kris_: you would totally let me email you [2026-02-15T05:22:13Z] that's a fourth option [2026-02-15T05:22:29Z] non IM is just annoying [2026-02-15T05:22:36Z] but yes its technically an option [2026-02-15T07:37:41Z] bouncer is now behind mullvad [2026-02-15T07:38:38Z] this time i chose to not reinstall the whole OS for a minor change, good exposure therapy for OCD ig [2026-02-15T07:41:46Z] test [2026-02-15T13:25:31Z] kris_: or you can just install murglar2 on your phone, and dont pay fro the music you can get for a whole $0. much better. I love being a pirate. all this free shit :D [2026-02-15T13:25:37Z] midfavila: ah, right, that was the name [2026-02-15T14:26:20Z] sad_plan: does this give you flacs though [2026-02-15T14:26:29Z] this is the first im hearing of this, doesnt seem like my type of thing though [2026-02-15T14:42:26Z] im not 100% sure if you can anymore, I know it did in the past. im unsure wether its the app, or if its a deezer thing, or the artist. ive downloaded flacs from it before though. [2026-02-15T14:42:51Z] but i know deezer tried to shut down the piracy deezer clients [2026-02-15T14:43:05Z] unsuccessfully albeit :p [2026-02-15T14:48:02Z] theres always everything else though https://rentry.org/megathread-music [2026-02-15T14:49:17Z] fhmy.net probably also has some stuff to look at if the megathread doesnt have someting you like [2026-02-15T14:50:03Z] im very familiar with all of this i'm just more of an invite only tracker type of person [2026-02-15T14:51:11Z] I would love that too, but I can always find what Im looking fr on public trackers anyway, so theres really no need I suppose [2026-02-15T14:51:34Z] depends on if you're after "good enough" or "this is the best thing there is" [2026-02-15T14:51:42Z] its gatekept for a reason [2026-02-15T14:52:00Z] like the overwhelming abundance of stuff + quality requirements + actual moderation [2026-02-15T14:52:54Z] im sure you're aware of this but music trackers generally require you to perform spectral analysis on your flacs in order to make certain they're properly truly lossless [2026-02-15T14:52:59Z] I get that. I would love to use proper 4k rips of everything, and flacs, but they just take too much space. im already way out of space, and has been since I started fetching games on my desktop [2026-02-15T14:53:03Z] and use specific tools for high quality rips and stuff [2026-02-15T14:53:11Z] if you're off by even a bit its considered invalid [2026-02-15T14:53:34Z] man that sounds like too much legfork for me. 320kbps mp3 is fine for my usecase. flacs is nice, but I dont have the gear to enjoy it [2026-02-15T14:53:47Z] well said gear to enjoy it costs like 35 usd [2026-02-15T14:53:52Z] but i feel you [2026-02-15T14:54:24Z] I have some flacs, and I cant say I hear the difference. my listening environment is also pretty noicy, so I wouldnt be able to tell the difference anyway [2026-02-15T14:54:38Z] depends on the music for me [2026-02-15T14:54:39Z] and what im listening on [2026-02-15T14:54:50Z] i abx tested flac vs 320kbps on $25 IEMs successfully [2026-02-15T14:55:02Z] im not going to tell you its a big difference though i had to actively look for it [2026-02-15T14:55:50Z] i have hundreds of CDs in my basement i need to rip at some point to store locally before they rot [2026-02-15T14:55:58Z] im sure that's going to be real fun [2026-02-15T14:56:22Z] ^ where i get most of my music [2026-02-15T14:56:32Z] CD collection and then i have a cheapo USB CD reader [2026-02-15T14:56:47Z] otherwise i honestly just listen on youtube most of the time [2026-02-15T14:57:19Z] i need to build a rig with like 5 cd drives to rip all of them instead of just listening directly [2026-02-15T14:58:20Z] youtube is unbelievably bad quality wise but usually when im not at home i dont really care [2026-02-15T15:01:39Z] for what i do already have locally i just use cmus + sftp [2026-02-15T15:20:08Z] sure, some music is more.. prone to show the poor quality.. and I can tell the difference between 128kbps mp3, vs 320. but 320vflac? I dont think I can. atleast I have not noticed it. it very may be due to environment.. maybe if I really sit down and listen, as you said. but if I cant tell the difference right off the bat, I dont think its worth it for me [2026-02-15T15:20:24Z] I even started compressing my roms to save space [2026-02-15T15:20:28Z] valid [2026-02-15T15:20:57Z] im kinda a higher quality, but save some space type of guy I suppose. but its tough trying to find a middle ground at times [2026-02-15T15:21:55Z] its all contextual for me, at home i have the storage for a whole flac library [2026-02-15T15:21:59Z] when im out i do not and therefore 128kbps opus [2026-02-15T15:22:16Z] I also dont care for archival completeness in say artists. I dont have space for songs I dont actually like : archivist would hate my music collection, as I have lots of albums with like 1 or 2 songs because I didnt like the rest :p [2026-02-15T15:22:33Z] i download entire albums even if i only want 1 song from them honestly [2026-02-15T15:22:42Z] and/or rip [2026-02-15T15:23:03Z] wouldnt 192kbps opus be a better compromise? the space difference is minimal, and opus is already really small, so you already save tons of space by just using opus [2026-02-15T15:23:19Z] its VBR [2026-02-15T15:23:22Z] I usually do to, but as I get to listen to it, I delete those tracks I dont like [2026-02-15T15:23:29Z] its not a hard set 128kbps thats just the target [2026-02-15T15:23:33Z] if it thinks it should itll overshoot [2026-02-15T15:23:35Z] or undershoot [2026-02-15T15:23:53Z] *in theory* opus is supposed to be transparent when targeting 128kbps with VRR but its definitely not to my ears [2026-02-15T15:23:56Z] i know opus doesnt have a hard set, but I meant targer=192 [2026-02-15T15:23:56Z] but its so close that i don't care [2026-02-15T15:24:34Z] hm [2026-02-15T17:39:42Z] sad_plan: saves me a ton of money too [2026-02-15T17:40:04Z] one month's payment of my current bill will be enough to cover three years of service for the wiphone [2026-02-15T17:45:38Z] I bet. so no sim for you anymore then? only voip numbers? [2026-02-15T17:47:54Z] that's the plan [2026-02-15T17:50:02Z] wont this be an issue with work or familty not being able to reach you? oris there wifi more or less w/e you are anyway? [2026-02-15T18:08:16Z] oh ffs, does alsa not support using a fallback card? I cant even find any search results for it [2026-02-15T18:39:59Z] i only go to like four different places and i have wifi at all of them [2026-02-15T18:40:36Z] the only time work needs to reach me is when i'm at work, i have a stipulation in my contract that if i'm contacted for work reasons outside of work hours i'm going to be taking "reporting for duty" pay, which is three hours' wages [2026-02-15T18:59:04Z] hm, so its mostly only an issue inbetween places. which is mostly a non-issue. I see [2026-02-15T19:26:44Z] mhm [2026-02-15T20:03:24Z] holy fuck, I tried the simposons road rage game. it was hilarious [2026-02-15T20:15:19Z] sad_plan: the simpsons hit 'n run? [2026-02-15T20:15:21Z] I loved that game [2026-02-15T20:18:26Z] Ozymandias42: this was the 'road rage' game, but I just tried hit 'n run too, it too was really cool [2026-02-15T20:26:16Z] what's interesting about the hit n run game is that it wasn't even developed by the makers of the simpsons. it had official approval but no input from official side. which is kinda wild [2026-02-15T20:26:31Z] because it's regarded -rightly so- as the best and most true to the spirit of the simpsons [2026-02-15T20:55:40Z] hm, interesting indeed