[2026-02-28T00:00:11Z] and i like being in the golang server for when the rare update to discordgo happens [2026-02-28T00:00:19Z] since i wrote/maintain a bot for a big server that uses discordgo [2026-02-28T00:00:41Z] i might move to arikawa at some point or something though discordgo seems neglected [2026-02-28T00:01:02Z] baaa22aFF0000a [2026-02-28T00:01:11Z] kris_: actually had to MOVE to discordgo cuz arikawa had missed a thing [2026-02-28T00:01:17Z] sewn is there a reason why you can't preview colors? [2026-02-28T00:01:19Z] o [2026-02-28T00:01:23Z] what was arikawa missing [2026-02-28T00:01:23Z] dery: read-ahead [2026-02-28T00:01:26Z] also what about disgo [2026-02-28T00:01:26Z] ohhh right [2026-02-28T00:01:30Z] read the patch code [2026-02-28T00:01:47Z] sorry lol [2026-02-28T00:01:49Z] it simply just sets the current input attribute the moment it recieves the format specifier [2026-02-28T00:01:53Z] to preview the color... [2026-02-28T00:02:00Z] well it would have to be incremental [2026-02-28T00:02:23Z] "hey, we got color specifier! ok, now this number. ok, now this number. hey we got the full color! hey wait where did the rest of the text go?" [2026-02-28T00:02:35Z] you have to effectively apply the vaxis.Style backwards to those cells [2026-02-28T00:02:45Z] and [2026-02-28T00:02:53Z] oh also moving forward but [2026-02-28T00:02:59Z] acutally no this could theoretically work [2026-02-28T00:03:04Z] but perhaps ill make it a seperate patch [2026-02-28T00:03:46Z] wow is the patch tiny [2026-02-28T00:03:51Z] congrats [2026-02-28T00:04:20Z] like I expected a lot more code, I guess the foundation was already there? [2026-02-28T00:04:33Z] hehe spotted a build issue in dfm already [2026-02-28T00:04:46Z] lemme guess, gitignore? [2026-02-28T00:05:03Z] yep [2026-02-28T00:05:05Z] hehe [2026-02-28T00:05:11Z] and im gonna beat you to it [2026-02-28T00:05:16Z] oh yea go ahead [2026-02-28T00:05:17Z] too lazy :P [2026-02-28T00:05:50Z] i might pull this patch for formatted text [2026-02-28T00:06:41Z] it's very nice kris_ [2026-02-28T00:06:59Z] you can be edgy modern with us [2026-02-28T00:07:10Z] i mean [2026-02-28T00:07:15Z] i get the sense most people arent going to be able to see it [2026-02-28T00:07:42Z] mh [2026-02-28T00:07:57Z] thinking about it I wonder how it's handled [2026-02-28T00:08:00Z] oh jeez more errors [2026-02-28T00:08:02Z] hahaha [2026-02-28T00:08:05Z] the best thing would be to do some fallback text rendering [2026-02-28T00:08:12Z] serverside i mean [2026-02-28T00:08:13Z] perhaps [2026-02-28T00:08:14Z] on my phone using goguma it just looks like normal text [2026-02-28T00:08:22Z] ooof [2026-02-28T00:08:26Z] that kinda sucks ngl [2026-02-28T00:08:28Z] would never know its formatted [2026-02-28T00:08:31Z] i mean what can be done [2026-02-28T00:08:42Z] other than just patching goguma [2026-02-28T00:08:44Z] dunno, I propose doing server-side plaintext formatting [2026-02-28T00:09:00Z] then how would you show that on formatted clients tho [2026-02-28T00:09:04Z] I should read the protocol first [2026-02-28T00:10:02Z] oh, it's literally just ascii characters [2026-02-28T00:10:04Z] what? its not a protocol [2026-02-28T00:10:10Z] DID YOU READ THE PATCH CO- [2026-02-28T00:10:13Z] :3 [2026-02-28T00:10:21Z] yes I did [2026-02-28T00:10:34Z] I saw lots of pretty api calls to some library thing [2026-02-28T00:10:40Z] thought it was the rendering api [2026-02-28T00:10:44Z] is it the rendering api am I that dumb [2026-02-28T00:10:46Z] sorry i'm tired [2026-02-28T00:11:10Z] welp [2026-02-28T00:11:14Z] it does indeed append character [2026-02-28T00:11:25Z] I assumed that the vaxis thing was some irc library [2026-02-28T00:11:26Z] lol [2026-02-28T00:11:31Z] sorry I never touched senpai code [2026-02-28T00:11:49Z] also yes I read the docs but like, I still assumed there was some protocol tagging of sorts cause I assume too much lol [2026-02-28T00:12:36Z] sorry [2026-02-28T00:13:21Z] I really guess that this standard is kinda unfortunate as is [2026-02-28T00:13:37Z] I kinda expected some capability negotiation like ircv3 does exactly because of this [2026-02-28T00:13:54Z] so that servers can be clever about what they send to the clients [2026-02-28T00:14:05Z] do all IRC clients just... strip unprintable ASCII codes? [2026-02-28T00:15:40Z] whut [2026-02-28T00:15:44Z] oh yes [2026-02-28T00:15:45Z] they do [2026-02-28T00:15:55Z] I see [2026-02-28T00:16:43Z] I should really get a feel for all IRC (de facto) standards before saying this but like, perhaps there could be a "formatting" capability and make the server return plain-text formatted stuff? [2026-02-28T00:16:54Z] that would be a loot more accessible but would definitely break perfecly working clients [2026-02-28T00:17:05Z] "break", more like, degrade [2026-02-28T00:17:55Z] it's really kinda useless otherwise [2026-02-28T00:18:46Z] * sewn brain melts [2026-02-28T00:18:51Z] man I was so excited for IRC formatting [2026-02-28T00:18:55Z] this is unironically a deal breaker :( [2026-02-28T00:20:53Z] sewn: do you know if they've added/done anything else or is that all [2026-02-28T00:22:56Z] who? [2026-02-28T00:23:00Z] libera [2026-02-28T00:23:04Z] like in addition to the typing indicator [2026-02-28T00:23:50Z] i mean that's an ircv3 standard [2026-02-28T00:25:02Z] kris_: you can look at https://ircv3.net/support/networks [2026-02-28T00:25:07Z] under message-tags [2026-02-28T00:25:15Z] it's technically a client-tag afaict [2026-02-28T00:25:26Z] so even some might support tags but not client-tags specifically [2026-02-28T00:25:33Z] like snoopnet and terranova [2026-02-28T00:26:10Z] kris_: https://libera.chat/news/new-and-upcoming-features-3 [2026-02-28T00:26:53Z] oh i'm dumb i misunderstood the question lol [2026-02-28T00:26:57Z] I think I'll take a break [2026-02-28T00:27:37Z] I read "what other networks added this" [2026-02-28T00:27:47Z] night folks [2026-02-28T00:28:56Z] bay bia [2026-02-28T00:29:00Z] gn dery [2026-02-28T00:29:09Z] sewn: ty [2026-02-28T00:41:16Z] submitted another pr lol [2026-02-28T00:41:33Z] i really dislike the mailing list workflow of sourcehut [2026-02-28T00:41:35Z] honestly [2026-02-28T00:43:04Z] why is that [2026-02-28T00:43:19Z] just appears clunkier to me than the typical PR workflow of github/codeberg [2026-02-28T00:43:29Z] i don't *know* that because i've never tried it but yeah [2026-02-28T00:44:41Z] omfg another pr [2026-02-28T00:44:47Z] did dylan test his code? [2026-02-28T00:44:51Z] lol [2026-02-28T00:44:59Z] im sure he did just nobody else looking at it until he published it [2026-02-28T00:45:06Z] there we go i got it to compile [2026-02-28T00:46:45Z] 3 fucking prs [2026-02-28T00:46:48Z] dylan is gonna hate me for this [2026-02-28T00:46:58Z] eh i think he'll appreciate it [2026-02-28T00:47:04Z] it seems like he wanted PRs for bugs based on his blog post [2026-02-28T00:47:17Z] lmk what you think about it, im still just using thunar but am not a big fan of it [2026-02-28T00:47:40Z] idk if any cli fm is going to serve the use i need a file manager for- that being showing me thumbnails of images and videos so i can find shit [2026-02-28T00:48:08Z] i dont think foot supports images at all and i find that kinda scuffed anyway [2026-02-28T00:48:23Z] kris_: swayimg + gallery view [2026-02-28T00:48:28Z] or lf..? [2026-02-28T00:48:39Z] kris_: foot supports sixel images, what [2026-02-28T00:48:41Z] https://github.com/dylanaraps/dfm/pull/1 [2026-02-28T00:48:44Z] click on this link inside foot [2026-02-28T00:48:51Z] ok well an image should have loaded [2026-02-28T00:49:59Z] lf seems neat [2026-02-28T00:50:28Z] no video thumbnail view [2026-02-28T00:50:44Z] ok time to usedfm [2026-02-28T00:50:47Z] ok nvm its just [2026-02-28T00:50:48Z] fff [2026-02-28T00:50:53Z] but in c [2026-02-28T00:51:06Z] omg lol it ignores resizes [2026-02-28T00:51:10Z] yay another pr [2026-02-28T00:52:10Z] i love the "likely/unlikely" optimizations [2026-02-28T00:52:45Z] oh wow it does have sixel support [2026-02-28T00:52:52Z] time to never do that again [2026-02-28T00:53:28Z] kris_: no it doesnt [2026-02-28T00:53:35Z] i mean foot [2026-02-28T00:53:37Z] oh [2026-02-28T00:53:45Z] i swear this wasnt here when i looked last [2026-02-28T00:53:49Z] albeit that was probably like 5 years ago [2026-02-28T00:54:00Z] i'm very out of date on pretty much everything i use [2026-02-28T00:54:03Z] i just never change anything [2026-02-28T00:54:13Z] oh fuck i wanted to sleep [2026-02-28T00:54:26Z] sleep hours [2026-02-28T00:54:30Z] gn [2026-02-28T00:55:26Z] nini [2026-02-28T01:09:41Z] I'll reappear from the dead (wait why did it log me in) [2026-02-28T01:09:49Z] WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHY +dery [2026-02-28T01:10:03Z] just to say sewn the resize thing is done on purpose, see the readme [2026-02-28T01:10:13Z] > * I wanted DFM to do absolutely nothing when idle so SIGWINCH (resize handling) will not automatically perform a size adjustment and redraw until the next keypress. [2026-02-28T01:10:51Z] oh ok [2026-02-28T01:25:58Z] sounds nice for laptop [2026-02-28T12:00:26Z] dery: fyi, you can disable chat history for dms [2026-02-28T16:41:46Z] dery why are you baa [2026-02-28T16:43:28Z] also, that there's history at all is an issue [2026-02-28T16:55:18Z] I dont worry about this, because its out of my control. I have enough other things to worry about. but I get it. public logs might be an issue. but maybe you guys also forget that this channel is logged. so regardless of libera logging it, its logged for the public anyhow, so this is a non-issue here [2026-02-28T17:02:01Z] sure, but it's opt-in, and on a channel per channel basis, with user-facing infrastructure e.g. loggers [2026-02-28T17:02:46Z] everyone here knows and agrees - by their continued presence - that this channel being logged is fine, and if we were to for some reason decide to not log it, we could remove the log bots and be sure it was no longer being logged [2026-02-28T17:03:00Z] idk it's ultimately whatever [2026-02-28T17:05:26Z] well yeah. i sometimes find it annoying that channels arent logged, so I cant look up something i know ive read there before. so I dont have to ask about again unneccessarly. but eh. not being logged is usually the norm, so #kisslinux being logged is kinda just a luxuary I suppose [2026-02-28T17:06:13Z] on another note, if every channel is logged, I dont need a bouncer or server to keep my connection up. I can just go back and see what I missed when Im back [2026-02-28T17:26:27Z] man, rsync really messed with me today. for some odd reason it would not sync all files. it kept missing out on some files. also today I learned that exfat, aswell as android is really picky about filenames lol [2026-02-28T22:23:24Z] midfavila: I'm what [2026-02-28T22:24:07Z] sewn: I think you meant to ping kris_? I'm fine with chat history, I'd actually like to hide typing indicators from senpai