[2026-03-20T00:32:20Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: isnt that just a reason for you to learn french?
[2026-03-20T04:19:26Z] <midfavila> sad_plan: if the federal government offered language classes then i would love to
[2026-03-20T04:19:47Z] <midfavila> unfortunately the federal government does *not*, despite culture being a shared responsibility of all levels of government
[2026-03-20T04:20:06Z] <midfavila> quebec offers free classes and will pay you to learn french, but only if you don't already speak an official language 
[2026-03-20T04:20:31Z] <midfavila> the only province that offers free language classes is new brunswick, since it's the only part of canada that *actually* promotes official bilingualism 
[2026-03-20T04:21:01Z] <midfavila> it's still incredibly strange to me to only see signs, government materials, products etcetera in english exclusively
[2026-03-20T04:22:10Z] <midfavila> to be honest i find it pretty gross that most of the country promotes a policy of monolingualism 
[2026-03-20T04:23:26Z] <midfavila> nova scotia recognises and promotes gaidhlig in conjunction with the scottish government as a minority language, and some of the signs and government services in remote regions are offered in gaidhlig, and NB is, as mentioned, english and french officially, and everyone knows that quebec is french, but then the rest of the provinces afaik exclusively promote the use of english
[2026-03-20T04:24:11Z] <midfavila> the territories recognise a ton of languages though. in particular i think the northwest territory has like thirteen official languages or something
[2026-03-20T04:24:34Z] <midfavila> english and french plus a ton of the most common american languages 
[2026-03-20T04:25:56Z] <midfavila> government of the NWT says they recognise inukitut, inuinaqtun, inuvialuktun, gwich'in, north and south slavey, tijcho(?), chipewyan, and cree
[2026-03-20T04:26:01Z] <midfavila> https://www.practicenwt.ca/en/official-languages-nwt
[2026-03-20T04:29:07Z] <sad_plan> didnt know canada regocnized so many language in any official capacity. I also fail to see why you cant just use a website or something, to learn french on your own. not the most efficient way though
[2026-03-20T04:29:19Z] <midfavila> it's extraordinarily inefficient 
[2026-03-20T04:29:34Z] <midfavila> you can't learn a language unless you actually use it in an organic setting
[2026-03-20T04:29:46Z] <midfavila> it's difficult to learn a language that isn't in regular use in your region 
[2026-03-20T04:29:47Z] <sad_plan> perhaps, but you do learn a new language on your own
[2026-03-20T04:29:53Z] <midfavila> you can learn the basics, maybe
[2026-03-20T04:30:03Z] <midfavila> some words, basic grammar, phrases
[2026-03-20T04:30:14Z] <midfavila> but there's only so much you can learn by reading words off a screen into a microphone
[2026-03-20T04:30:54Z] <sad_plan> once you learn the basics, its up to you to try to figure out how to implement it somehow. I once tried to learn russian, but I never really used it for anything, so I ended up stopping, and forgot more o less everything
[2026-03-20T04:31:36Z] <midfavila> rip
[2026-03-20T04:31:40Z] <sad_plan> but yeah, I do agree that learning alone, is not at all the most efficient way to learn stuff. especially languages
[2026-03-20T04:32:15Z] <midfavila> if the governments of canada collectively tried to help the citizenry it would be a lot easier but like
[2026-03-20T04:32:18Z] <midfavila> yknow
[2026-03-20T04:32:20Z] <midfavila> capitalism
[2026-03-20T04:32:22Z] <midfavila> and stuff
[2026-03-20T04:32:42Z] <midfavila> who cares about cultural development and civics and shit when you could be working a second or third job
[2026-03-20T04:32:47Z] <sad_plan> yep. I still have the docs for russian somewhere on my desktop iirc. it was mostly basic stuff. my goal was to have a basic conversation with my dad in russian, but I dont think he ever learned much more than yes/no, and other basic stuff :P
[2026-03-20T04:33:05Z] <midfavila> well, basic stuff is all you really need 
[2026-03-20T04:33:18Z] <sad_plan> yeah, who doesnt want to have 2-3+ jobs
[2026-03-20T04:33:38Z] <midfavila> i remember seeing one of those clickbait articles a while ago that said that you really only need to know around a thousand words in english to cover 99.9% of all daily usecases
[2026-03-20T04:33:44Z] <midfavila> plus some of the grammar 
[2026-03-20T04:33:48Z] <midfavila> and then you're set
[2026-03-20T04:33:58Z] <sad_plan> to a certain degree, yes. but it all depends on what you want to use it for. if its for travel, you can get by with some basic stuff. but for more than that, youre going to come out short
[2026-03-20T04:34:19Z] <midfavila> sure, but that's why you practice after that basic level by using it in daily situations :P
[2026-03-20T04:34:44Z] <midfavila> but yeah the job thing is another issue. idk maybe when the global economy explodes in spectacular fashion i'll have time to kill 
[2026-03-20T04:34:51Z] <midfavila> what does a litre of petrol run you for in norway?
[2026-03-20T04:35:00Z] <sad_plan> yeah. I think thats the reason why I never really learned german in school, as I couldnt really use it elsewhere, and I didnt care much for it after all...
[2026-03-20T04:35:52Z] <sad_plan> the highest ive seen recently was 28kr iirc. maybe 29 in some places, but locally, ive seen 28.something kr
[2026-03-20T04:36:34Z] <midfavila> holy fuck
[2026-03-20T04:36:40Z] <midfavila> 4CAD a litre
[2026-03-20T04:36:48Z] <midfavila> that's wild
[2026-03-20T04:36:53Z] <midfavila> americans in #kisslinux avert your eyes
[2026-03-20T04:37:31Z] <midfavila> that's around 11.20USD a gallon 
[2026-03-20T04:37:39Z] <sad_plan> lol, yeah its pretty bad. its 10kr from the lowest somewhat recently, to the highest recently. petrol is terribly expensive right now, and im running low on diesel on my car :c
[2026-03-20T04:37:50Z] <midfavila> lmaoooooooooooooo americans would have a stroke if it got anywhere near that
[2026-03-20T04:38:08Z] <midfavila> it's like 3.8USD a gallon for petrol on average in america rn apparently 
[2026-03-20T04:38:15Z] <sad_plan> americans wouldnt be able to drive with those prices. cars wouldve just been mostly parked lol
[2026-03-20T04:38:34Z] <midfavila> wait
[2026-03-20T04:38:36Z] <midfavila> hold on
[2026-03-20T04:38:44Z] <midfavila> google might have lied to me
[2026-03-20T04:39:01Z] <midfavila> okay no it didn't
[2026-03-20T04:39:15Z] <midfavila> 3.8USD=~36nok
[2026-03-20T04:39:21Z] <midfavila> but that would be for 3.8L
[2026-03-20T04:39:31Z] <midfavila> ~=1USgal
[2026-03-20T04:39:52Z] <midfavila> honestly i'm just having fun watching everyone here panic
[2026-03-20T04:40:20Z] <midfavila> they all drive fuckoff huge trucks and there's a pretty big subculture of modifying their vehicles to be intentionally less efficient to like, idk, own the libs or whatever
[2026-03-20T04:40:35Z] <midfavila> and now people are screeching about the price of gas lol
[2026-03-20T04:40:50Z] <sad_plan> xe.com can confirm googles calculations here :p
[2026-03-20T04:41:04Z] <midfavila> just double checking
[2026-03-20T04:41:22Z] <sad_plan> i usd is currently 9.5 NOK. which is actually an improvement to what it was earlier. it was more like 12 a while ago
[2026-03-20T04:41:44Z] <sad_plan> so now it might actually be more benefitial buying things from the state
[2026-03-20T04:42:06Z] <midfavila> if they'll fucking sell it to you in the first place
[2026-03-20T04:42:18Z] <midfavila> i've found a few products made in america that i've wanted recently but they don't SHIP IT TO YOU
[2026-03-20T04:42:22Z] <midfavila> >:C
[2026-03-20T04:42:50Z] <sad_plan> also, regarding modifying trucks, yeah they like having them roll coal, as its called. lots of videos about it on yt
[2026-03-20T04:42:56Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2026-03-20T04:43:04Z] <midfavila> i've had people blast soot at me a few times
[2026-03-20T04:43:07Z] <midfavila> it fucking sucks
[2026-03-20T04:44:56Z] <sad_plan> lol, theres a local business here, which gives me an local address in the US, so that I can buy things from the state, even from places that dont ship outside of the US. often times, I can even get free shipping in the US. I think its called freight shipping?
[2026-03-20T04:45:06Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2026-03-20T04:45:10Z] <sad_plan> I suppose theres something similar from US>canada aswell?
[2026-03-20T04:45:13Z] <midfavila> there are firms like that here as well, yes
[2026-03-20T04:45:19Z] <midfavila> it's just irksome that it's necessary 
[2026-03-20T04:45:27Z] <sad_plan> I get that
[2026-03-20T04:45:32Z] <midfavila> considering all the talk from the yankees about canada "freeloading"
[2026-03-20T04:45:52Z] <midfavila> (running an import surplus)
[2026-03-20T04:48:31Z] <sad_plan> lol, right. had to be something stupid like that
[2026-03-20T04:48:35Z] <sad_plan> the US is dumb
[2026-03-20T04:49:28Z] <midfavila> it's okay, if the invasion of iran continues for a longish time then the world will probably dump the USD as the reserve currency
[2026-03-20T04:49:37Z] <midfavila> or at least have multiple viable reserve currencies
[2026-03-20T04:49:41Z] <midfavila> have you been watching that?
[2026-03-20T04:50:56Z] <sad_plan> i have not been paying much attention regarding iran being invaded no. I did hear about it, or rather read some headlines while glancing over when my coworker scroll newspage number 500 this shift lol
[2026-03-20T04:51:18Z] <sad_plan> he spends almost the whole shift reading news lol
[2026-03-20T04:51:59Z] <midfavila> tl;dr the iranian... militia? has blockaded the strait of hormuz which a huge portion of the world's oil goes through
[2026-03-20T04:52:01Z] <sad_plan> although, if its not news, its facebook. maybe some car stuff occationally
[2026-03-20T04:52:23Z] <midfavila> and the IRGC's navy has said that they won't lift the blockade... basically at all, from what i understand?
[2026-03-20T04:52:35Z] <sad_plan> right, so thats why the petrol prices skyrocketed
[2026-03-20T04:52:40Z] <midfavila> they're attempting to neutralise the US threat in the region
[2026-03-20T04:52:54Z] <midfavila> which is why they're attacking other countries FoR nO rEaSoN
[2026-03-20T04:53:02Z] <midfavila> (they're targeting US bases)
[2026-03-20T04:53:36Z] <midfavila> and they've refused to come to the table with the americans to negotiate because i guess after having their head of state killed along with basically his entire family, plus having a bunch of civvies blown to bits, they're kind of pissed off
[2026-03-20T04:53:45Z] <midfavila> not to mention yankee involvement in israel's meddling in the region
[2026-03-20T04:54:18Z] <midfavila> so they seem to be trying to remove the american threat from the region? and one of the ways they're doing this is by attacking the so-called petrodollar system
[2026-03-20T04:54:31Z] <midfavila> tl;dr most oil sold on the world stage *has* to be priced in the USD
[2026-03-20T04:54:43Z] <midfavila> which creates a constant and artificial demand for a *ton* of USD
[2026-03-20T04:54:52Z] <midfavila> effectively, it's an oil-backed currency
[2026-03-20T04:54:56Z] <midfavila> instead of gold or whatever you'd like
[2026-03-20T04:55:12Z] <midfavila> (this is also why america and american companies put a shitload of resources into kneecapping renewables)
[2026-03-20T04:55:38Z] <sad_plan> the US should just fuck right of, honestly. and just fix their own domestic stuff. you know, like their evergrowing homeless population, or the overwhelming number of incarserated people
[2026-03-20T04:55:42Z] <midfavila> the USD being necessary to purchase oil and the resulting artificial demand essentially lets america print infinite money forever 
[2026-03-20T04:55:49Z] <midfavila> without experiencing significant inflation
[2026-03-20T04:55:57Z] <midfavila> america afaik also just doesn't pay other countries in full?
[2026-03-20T04:56:18Z] <midfavila> they have a lot of outstanding bills that are essentially covered by printing more USD
[2026-03-20T04:56:29Z] <midfavila> because like, what are you gonna do, not use petroleum?
[2026-03-20T04:56:34Z] <sad_plan> probably because the US just holds everyone at gunpoint at this point if they dont comply
[2026-03-20T04:56:38Z] <midfavila> of course not. so you need USD.
[2026-03-20T04:56:55Z] <midfavila> so you shut up and take your lashings and be grateful
[2026-03-20T04:57:02Z] <midfavila> but *iran*
[2026-03-20T04:57:09Z] <midfavila> is attacking the petrodollar system
[2026-03-20T04:57:24Z] <midfavila> by refusing to permit any USD-denominated oil shipments through the strait
[2026-03-20T04:57:38Z] <midfavila> the IRGCN has said they will permit tankers carrying oil denominated in the chinese yuan
[2026-03-20T04:57:47Z] <midfavila> and only the yuan
[2026-03-20T04:58:00Z] <midfavila> so all they have to do is hold the region and wait
[2026-03-20T04:58:01Z] <sad_plan> this is going to blow back some day in the US's face. see how ukrain fixed the whole russia jamming gps and stuff. now theres drones everywhere instead... not saying drones are better though
[2026-03-20T04:58:15Z] <midfavila> oh iran has been doing drones for decades
[2026-03-20T04:58:19Z] <midfavila> this *is* the blowback
[2026-03-20T04:58:37Z] <sad_plan> it was just an example, but yeah
[2026-03-20T04:58:39Z] <midfavila> america keeps sanctioning countries for being opposed to american hegemony and all that does is force that nation to learn to make do without
[2026-03-20T04:58:46Z] <midfavila> look at cuba, north korea, russia, etcetera
[2026-03-20T04:59:11Z] <midfavila> cubans are over here makin fucking nuclear reactors out of a toaster, toilet paper roll, and an old soviet washing machine
[2026-03-20T04:59:22Z] <midfavila> north korea can turn coal into clothes and run cars off of wood
[2026-03-20T04:59:28Z] <midfavila> russia is like
[2026-03-20T04:59:29Z] <midfavila> russia idk
[2026-03-20T04:59:32Z] <midfavila> you get myp oint
[2026-03-20T04:59:51Z] <midfavila> and iran has developed an entire domestic arms industry over the course of decades dedicated basically entirely to drone zerg rushes
[2026-03-20T04:59:53Z] <sad_plan> yep. the US keep trying to hold countries at gunpoint, but eventually, the hold the US has, will eventually hold no power. im kinda waiting for that to happen, to that the US can to some degree crumble
[2026-03-20T05:00:06Z] <midfavila> i mean i'm expecting this to be the incident to cause that
[2026-03-20T05:00:11Z] <midfavila> if things continue to escalate
[2026-03-20T05:00:22Z] <midfavila> and there's no way trump will back off and surrender to iran
[2026-03-20T05:00:45Z] <midfavila> NATO seems to be pretty adamant about not dying for burgerstan
[2026-03-20T05:01:06Z] <sad_plan> obviously not. US the THE WORLDS SUPERPOWER or some shit, and is way to proud to back down from anything
[2026-03-20T05:01:19Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2026-03-20T05:01:25Z] <midfavila> the humiliation would be just too much to bear lol
[2026-03-20T05:01:30Z] <sad_plan> yep
[2026-03-20T05:01:59Z] <midfavila> first they get their asses kicked in viet nam by some dudes in the jungle with tunnels and AKs, then they get their asses kicked by a bunch of dudes with machine guns mounted to used F150s and shopping carts
[2026-03-20T05:02:12Z] <midfavila> they can't beat russia in their proxy war with ukraine
[2026-03-20T05:02:23Z] <midfavila> they can't even beat the iranian *militia*
[2026-03-20T05:02:29Z] <sad_plan> eventually, the US is just going to be dealt such a terrible hand of cards, that they just cant fiddle their way out of the mess they created
[2026-03-20T05:02:36Z] <sad_plan> yep
[2026-03-20T05:02:43Z] <sad_plan> the US is doing a terrible job really
[2026-03-20T05:02:58Z] <midfavila> to surrender to what amounts to some dudes in speedboats with some pipebombs strapped to quadcoptor drones would be just too much to bear lmao
[2026-03-20T05:03:18Z] <midfavila> trump has been effortposting 24/7 trying to cope with it
[2026-03-20T05:03:21Z] <midfavila> funniest shit i've ever seen 
[2026-03-20T05:03:31Z] <sad_plan> they would die of shame lol
[2026-03-20T05:03:33Z] <sad_plan> i bet
[2026-03-20T05:03:56Z] <midfavila> honestly i'm siding with iran
[2026-03-20T05:04:02Z] <midfavila> like, in terms of betting on who's gonna win
[2026-03-20T05:04:25Z] <midfavila> obviously i don't support their current government because it's a theocracy, just as i wouldn't support america or israel
[2026-03-20T05:04:30Z] <sad_plan> ditto. at this point, the US is just a bully, and this bully needs to be tought a lession
[2026-03-20T05:04:34Z] <midfavila> but insofar as the enemy of my enemy is my friend idk
[2026-03-20T05:04:35Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2026-03-20T05:04:40Z] <midfavila> i mean the USA has always been a bully
[2026-03-20T05:04:47Z] <midfavila> trump is just america at its most honest
[2026-03-20T05:04:57Z] <midfavila> he's as american as baseball, apple pie, chattel slavery, and colonialism
[2026-03-20T05:05:28Z] <midfavila> american revolution was basically just the founding fathers trying to protect their investments in their slave plantations
[2026-03-20T05:05:35Z] <sad_plan> i know, and because they have had such a vast amount of military power, they have been able to keep up this act. but now things are starting to fall apart, and their grip on the world is starting to slip up
[2026-03-20T05:05:49Z] <midfavila> like you're trying to tell me random yankoids in 17-whatever gave a shit about politics? that's boring ass nerd shit
[2026-03-20T05:05:59Z] <midfavila> you can't even get people today to *seriously* engage with politics
[2026-03-20T05:06:18Z] <midfavila> naw man it was just a slaveholder's revolt
[2026-03-20T05:06:22Z] <sad_plan> ikr
[2026-03-20T05:06:29Z] <midfavila> and i mean idk
[2026-03-20T05:06:32Z] <sad_plan> ah fuck, finally, done for todays shift. time to head home
[2026-03-20T05:06:38Z] <midfavila> i don't think america has been anything other than a paper tiger ever
[2026-03-20T05:06:49Z] <midfavila> i mean fucking hell canada has kicked their asses a good few times even
[2026-03-20T05:06:56Z] <midfavila> and like
[2026-03-20T05:07:00Z] <midfavila> that's *canada*
[2026-03-20T05:07:05Z] <midfavila> not exactly a fucking superpower
[2026-03-20T05:07:16Z] <kris_> bleh
[2026-03-20T05:07:24Z] <sad_plan> t2yl
[2026-03-20T05:07:35Z] <midfavila> kris_ it's okay you can jump the border and live in alberta or something idk
[2026-03-20T05:08:36Z] <kris_> no
[2026-03-20T05:08:47Z] <midfavila> free healthcare though
[2026-03-20T05:08:50Z] <midfavila> and dentalll
[2026-03-20T05:08:54Z] <kris_> at this point im starting to feel obligated
[2026-03-20T05:09:02Z] <midfavila> what to stay in america???
[2026-03-20T05:09:23Z] <kris_> the age verification shit hitting linux distros soon
[2026-03-20T05:09:30Z] <midfavila> not enforceable
[2026-03-20T05:09:31Z] <midfavila> = w=
[2026-03-20T05:09:32Z] <kris_> im going to do some malicious noncompliance i think
[2026-03-20T05:09:39Z] <kris_> because it's not a thing in my state
[2026-03-20T05:09:39Z] <midfavila> i did see systemd is implementing it tho
[2026-03-20T05:09:51Z] <kris_> they did yeah and the freedesktop people are implementing it
[2026-03-20T05:10:04Z] <kris_> the issue is apps will default to treating you like a child and who knows what thatll mean
[2026-03-20T05:10:17Z] <midfavila> yeah go for it i don't fuckin use "apps"
[2026-03-20T05:10:52Z] <kris_> if it gets to this point ill just buy a kyun server with monero and serve a pre-rolled krum approved distro from it
[2026-03-20T05:11:06Z] <kris_> to make sure everyone can pull an OS
[2026-03-20T05:11:11Z] <kris_> or i just serve it out of europe
[2026-03-20T05:11:13Z] <kris_> ig
[2026-03-20T05:11:42Z] <kris_> the issue is this is fucking over half my software stack i think
[2026-03-20T05:12:05Z] <midfavila> time to install kiss
[2026-03-20T05:12:11Z] <kris_> not the OS itself i dont think but i make heavy use of flatpak and whatnot
[2026-03-20T05:12:28Z] <kris_> but maybe i just write a wrapper around landlock to serve the same sandbox purpose
[2026-03-20T05:13:57Z] <kris_> honestly its kind of my own fault for using redhat slop to begin with
[2026-03-20T05:14:07Z] <midfavila> yes
[2026-03-20T05:14:33Z] <midfavila> i've decided i'm just not going to engage with corposlop shit in general 
[2026-03-20T05:14:34Z] <kris_> on another note, this openbsd router is a thing of fucking beauty
[2026-03-20T05:14:43Z] <kris_> it works so well
[2026-03-20T05:14:52Z] <midfavila> a bunch of dorkson the internet in their mom's basement are able to outperform IBM somehow 
[2026-03-20T05:15:01Z] <midfavila> so IBM et al can fuck off
[2026-03-20T05:15:19Z] <midfavila> the resistance >:O
[2026-03-20T05:15:35Z] <kris_> agelesslinux is funny have you seen that
[2026-03-20T05:15:43Z] <midfavila> no
[2026-03-20T05:15:50Z] <midfavila> i'm not part of the "linux community" 
[2026-03-20T05:16:57Z] <midfavila> anyway i don't really see the humour in the expansion of the US surveillance state
[2026-03-20T05:17:17Z] <midfavila> all it does is make me hope for the collapse of the USD even more
[2026-03-20T05:18:01Z] <kris_> apparently they're going to put a fork of debian with no age checking stuff on SBCs to explicitly hand to children at stem fairs and shit
[2026-03-20T05:18:12Z] <kris_> like breaking the law as much as possible on purpose
[2026-03-20T05:19:15Z] <kris_> the reason i think its funny is because one of the apps theyve added to violate those laws as much as possible is called peepee
[2026-03-20T05:19:29Z] <kris_> literally all it does is print "peepee" in large text
[2026-03-20T05:19:33Z] <kris_> its great
[2026-03-20T05:20:19Z] <midfavila> yeah that'll really show them
[2026-03-20T05:20:24Z] <midfavila> good job #ResistanceITCell
[2026-03-20T05:20:38Z] <midfavila> same fuckin energy as those stupid-ass dinosaur and frog suits
[2026-03-20T05:20:53Z] <midfavila> or the synchronised dancing in front of the white house reenacting those public executions by ICE
[2026-03-20T05:21:10Z] <midfavila> just gotta wait until the midterms guys, then we can elect blue-hitler instead of red-hitler!!!
[2026-03-20T05:21:17Z] <midfavila> keep #Resisting!
[2026-03-20T05:21:31Z] <kris_> well honestly mid i really like the idea of loading up a bunch of sbcs with less evil software and handing them out like candy
[2026-03-20T05:21:58Z] <kris_> they include a web browser and stuff too for access to the internet
[2026-03-20T05:22:02Z] <midfavila> it's a waste of money 
[2026-03-20T05:22:24Z] <midfavila> literally nothing but a vanity project
[2026-03-20T05:22:48Z] <kris_> its the literal only "resistance" I've seen sadly other than from the system76 CEO
[2026-03-20T05:22:58Z] <midfavila> yeah and it's fucking worthless
[2026-03-20T05:22:58Z] <midfavila> again
[2026-03-20T05:23:03Z] <midfavila> #ResisDance shit
[2026-03-20T05:23:15Z] <kris_> the s76 guy is apparently likely to get an exemption for foss software with at least the colorado bill
[2026-03-20T05:23:21Z] <kris_> but theres like 6 more
[2026-03-20T05:23:23Z] <midfavila> i get that it's funny haha to PWN the chuds by printf'ing the word "peepee" but it does literally nothing
[2026-03-20T05:24:04Z] <kris_> itll mean more when it gets to the point that those are the only way kids regularly have a way to get on a more open internet
[2026-03-20T05:24:26Z] <kris_> but these laws are kind of insane anyway- they'd even apply to my a fridge
[2026-03-20T05:25:06Z] <kris_> or like, fucking 7zio
[2026-03-20T05:25:09Z] <kris_> zip*
[2026-03-20T05:25:21Z] <midfavila> yeah it's a stupid law that isn't enforceable
[2026-03-20T05:25:23Z] <kris_> since technically 7zip serves users content
[2026-03-20T05:25:54Z] <midfavila> it's just a way to distract the populace from the fucking JACKBOOTS IN THE STREETS
[2026-03-20T05:26:13Z] <midfavila> and the ONGOING COLLAPSE OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY
[2026-03-20T05:27:09Z] <midfavila> like if dear supreme leader trump keeps doing his thing this could end up worse than the opec embargo in the 70s
[2026-03-20T05:27:22Z] <midfavila> that's a little more important than some fuckin californian law
[2026-03-20T07:27:02Z] <Guest5> hi, is KISS Linux is still mainteined?
[2026-03-20T07:27:46Z] <Guest5> last post on kiss linux news (tidbits) on official website is dated 2021 
[2026-03-20T07:28:32Z] <Guest5> also github archived :(
[2026-03-20T07:31:45Z] <dal3m> Guest5: https://kisscommunity.org
[2026-03-20T07:34:38Z] <Guest5> dal3m: i've seen this website, but i was wondering if kiss is maintained? :)
[2026-03-20T07:35:08Z] <Guest5> oh sorry found codeberd, it seems it is
[2026-03-20T07:36:49Z] <dery> yea
[2026-03-20T07:37:21Z] <dery> no worries, everything is pretty darn silent here :P
[2026-03-20T07:37:30Z] <dery> stuff just works ig
[2026-03-20T10:07:56Z] <kre66> what image viewer u guys using in wayland
[2026-03-20T10:18:49Z] <sewn> i use swayimg
[2026-03-20T10:24:35Z] <kre66> ah ok nice i tried compiling imv and it was pain
[2026-03-20T10:27:53Z] <sewn> you can also use mpv as a image viewer
[2026-03-20T10:28:13Z] <kre66> yeah i was doing that
[2026-03-20T10:28:21Z] <kre66> now i compiled swayimg
[2026-03-20T10:29:34Z] <kre66> without dbus it is really not simple to open links in existing firefox instance right ?
[2026-03-20T10:33:54Z] <kre66> https://files.catbox.moe/cwq2jt.png :(
[2026-03-20T10:34:08Z] <kre66> guess i can live with day
[2026-03-20T10:34:15Z] <kre66> s/day/that
[2026-03-20T10:38:19Z] <sewn> thats pretty stupid
[2026-03-20T10:39:34Z] <kre66> yup