[2026-04-18T03:28:10Z] <midfavila> you know what i feel like graphics would be more useful than text for a UI under the sharpikeebo's resolution constraints
[2026-04-18T03:28:39Z] <midfavila> i've been looking at some other computery things i've been keeping an eye on and the pocketmage PDA actually has a lower resolution than the sharpi
[2026-04-18T03:29:03Z] <midfavila> 320x240 instead of 400x240 
[2026-04-18T03:29:43Z] <midfavila> then again a simple menu would also be plenty effective pff
[2026-04-18T03:29:50Z] <midfavila> instead of typing everything in one character at a time
[2026-04-18T03:36:37Z] <midfavila> man firefox is crazy. 27 gigs of memory just on its own... 
[2026-04-18T03:36:49Z] <midfavila> all i'm doing is watching youtube videos man what the hell
[2026-04-18T03:51:40Z] <midfavila> btw anyone here ever poke at limine? 
[2026-04-18T03:52:05Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/Limine-Bootloader/Limine
[2026-04-18T03:52:11Z] <midfavila> first glance it seems nice
[2026-04-18T03:52:17Z] <midfavila> a good replacement for syslinux 
[2026-04-18T04:14:25Z] <midfavila> nvm it requires nasm and "mtools", whatever that is
[2026-04-18T04:14:34Z] <midfavila> back to syslinux
[2026-04-18T04:31:45Z] <sad_plan> the llm stuff is everywhere now, its ridicilous...
[2026-04-18T04:31:55Z] <sad_plan> why cant you just use efistub?
[2026-04-18T04:32:02Z] <sad_plan> wait, youre using bios, arent you?
[2026-04-18T04:32:58Z] <sad_plan> ffs, I redownloaded most of my roms, verified all of them to make sure everything is good. transfered them, verified the checksum again just to be sure - they dont show up again in neathersx2 on my phone like they did last time
[2026-04-18T04:33:01Z] <midfavila> BIOS and also multiple architectures that don't support efi reliably
[2026-04-18T04:33:07Z] <midfavila> namely arm and riscv64
[2026-04-18T04:33:27Z] <midfavila> EFI is CRINGE and LAMEPILLED and i REFUSE to use it >:C
[2026-04-18T04:33:29Z] <sad_plan> which is exacly the reasoning for me redownloading everything to verify them. also chdroid reports errors on all of the files ironically....
[2026-04-18T04:33:45Z] <sad_plan> why though?
[2026-04-18T04:33:49Z] <midfavila> because
[2026-04-18T04:33:50Z] <midfavila> new bad
[2026-04-18T04:33:51Z] <midfavila> old good
[2026-04-18T04:33:53Z] <midfavila> factg
[2026-04-18T04:33:59Z] * midfavila wrinkles his nose
[2026-04-18T04:34:04Z] <midfavila> i have no reason to change to efi
[2026-04-18T04:34:47Z] <midfavila> also i don't even know if the kcma-d8 uses uefi anyway lol
[2026-04-18T04:35:20Z] <midfavila> it definitely won't once i rip out the firmware chip and jam seabios in it
[2026-04-18T04:35:53Z] <midfavila> the only good thing about uefi is that it lets me run fuckin
[2026-04-18T04:35:53Z] <midfavila> uhhh
[2026-04-18T04:35:57Z] <midfavila> mezzano on baremetal 
[2026-04-18T04:36:03Z] <midfavila> but even THEN mezzano should just support bios
[2026-04-18T04:36:07Z] <midfavila> >:c
[2026-04-18T04:36:15Z] <sad_plan> sure, some new stuff is trash, I can agree with that. but some old stuff is also trash
[2026-04-18T04:36:21Z] <midfavila> like x86
[2026-04-18T04:36:21Z] <midfavila> :D
[2026-04-18T04:36:28Z] <sad_plan> I dont even know what mezzano or kcma-d8 is
[2026-04-18T04:36:34Z] <sad_plan> lol
[2026-04-18T04:36:42Z] <midfavila> mezzano is a pure common lisp OS that runs on baremetal 
[2026-04-18T04:36:45Z] <sad_plan> risc or arm is supperior I assume?
[2026-04-18T04:36:51Z] <midfavila> risc is fine
[2026-04-18T04:36:52Z] <midfavila> arm is shit 
[2026-04-18T04:37:02Z] <midfavila> it's better than x86 on account of being risc
[2026-04-18T04:37:06Z] <midfavila> but that's about it
[2026-04-18T04:37:09Z] <midfavila> as far as i'm concerned
[2026-04-18T04:37:27Z] <sad_plan> very well then
[2026-04-18T04:37:31Z] <midfavila> kcma-d8 is an older opteron mainboard that's one of the main targets of libreboot
[2026-04-18T04:37:37Z] <sad_plan> ah
[2026-04-18T04:37:38Z] <midfavila> it has a socketed BIOS chip so it's easy to flash 
[2026-04-18T04:37:46Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2026-04-18T04:37:48Z] <sad_plan> neat
[2026-04-18T04:37:50Z] <midfavila> yeah
[2026-04-18T04:37:55Z] <midfavila> i switched from my old system to this one 
[2026-04-18T04:38:03Z] <midfavila> since i wanted to go back to having more cores
[2026-04-18T04:38:23Z] <midfavila> first board i got had a friedbios chip but otherwise works fine so once i replace it i'll build a second one and have a nice little cluster
[2026-04-18T04:38:35Z] <midfavila> i figured i could volunteer it for CI work if loap is still being run 
[2026-04-18T04:39:14Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano
[2026-04-18T04:39:17Z] <midfavila> behold
[2026-04-18T04:39:19Z] <midfavila> *peak*
[2026-04-18T04:40:50Z] <midfavila> i would still prefer it to be written in scheme but i'll take what i can get
[2026-04-18T04:59:29Z] <kris_> i like x86
[2026-04-18T04:59:44Z] <kris_> i don't do bios booting though, it ends up horrendously overcomplicating things
[2026-04-18T04:59:52Z] <kris_> ill make an exception for like, libreboot
[2026-04-18T05:00:04Z] <kris_> just because they have a superior secure boot method compared to what the UEFI spec provides
[2026-04-18T05:00:27Z] <kris_> midfavila: also i think i might have just caught libreboot leah at a bad time ngl she's been very normal since ive rejoined the IRC out of curiosity
[2026-04-18T05:00:33Z] <kris_> a bad time meaning like a full bad week
[2026-04-18T05:00:43Z] <midfavila> bios booting is super simple wtaf are you on about
[2026-04-18T05:00:55Z] <midfavila> you just dump some shit on a partition and mark it as bootable
[2026-04-18T05:00:55Z] <kris_> i dont have a bootloader on my system because my motherboard just kicks off my uki by itself
[2026-04-18T05:01:07Z] <midfavila> efi is what's so finnicky
[2026-04-18T05:01:08Z] <kris_> alternatively you can just have uefi start the kernel
[2026-04-18T05:01:27Z] <midfavila> >just make a ufi and an efiboot and install fobaz and systemd-shim 
[2026-04-18T05:01:32Z] <kris_> stubby exists
[2026-04-18T05:01:35Z] <midfavila> i will not enable the efi
[2026-04-18T05:01:39Z] <kris_> you just need a kernel and a stub
[2026-04-18T05:01:40Z] <midfavila> i will not consoom the systemd
[2026-04-18T05:01:44Z] <midfavila> i will not live in the pod
[2026-04-18T05:01:47Z] <midfavila> i will not eat the bugs
[2026-04-18T05:01:48Z] <kris_> you dont need to use the systemd one lol
[2026-04-18T05:01:48Z] <midfavila> :gun:
[2026-04-18T05:01:51Z] <midfavila> I REFUSE
[2026-04-18T05:01:53Z] <midfavila> >:CCC
[2026-04-18T05:01:54Z] <kris_> https://github.com/kkrruumm/buki
[2026-04-18T05:01:58Z] <kris_> look how comfy my script is though mid
[2026-04-18T05:02:00Z] <kris_> OooOoOOOooo
[2026-04-18T05:02:05Z] <kris_> it's Posix ShellllLlLlLLl
[2026-04-18T05:02:16Z] <midfavila> you're lucky i've moved on from my 300 byte pure x86 assembly bootloader days
[2026-04-18T05:02:32Z] <kris_> i just like having only one file on my disk that isnt covered by luks
[2026-04-18T05:02:37Z] <kris_> and then i just sign it and gg
[2026-04-18T05:02:46Z] <kris_> tinyramfs handles decrypting my /
[2026-04-18T05:03:10Z] <kris_> i legit love tinyramfs, its one of those bits of software i stumble on and am like "yeah. this is perfect. this is the good shit."
[2026-04-18T05:03:22Z] <kris_> partially induced by dealing with dracut for like 4 years 
[2026-04-18T05:03:25Z] <midfavila> i've never done any ramfs stuff tbh
[2026-04-18T05:03:30Z] <midfavila> but i've been meaning to 
[2026-04-18T05:03:42Z] <midfavila> i'd like to do the whole luks thing 
[2026-04-18T05:03:52Z] <kris_> the reason i wrote buki is because, prior, i was using systemd-ukify
[2026-04-18T05:03:55Z] <midfavila> luks + read-only root filesystem 
[2026-04-18T05:04:03Z] <kris_> said systemd-ukify is like 2600 lines of python and 99% of it is unrelated to building a UKI
[2026-04-18T05:04:10Z] <midfavila> >python
[2026-04-18T05:04:11Z] <kris_> so i was kinda like fuck you ill make my own
[2026-04-18T05:04:23Z] <midfavila> why use the language that accepts llm commits
[2026-04-18T05:04:27Z] <kris_> >178loc of posix sh
[2026-04-18T05:04:33Z] <midfavila> oh wait
[2026-04-18T05:04:36Z] <midfavila> reading comprehension moment
[2026-04-18T05:04:40Z] * midfavila facedesks repeatedly
[2026-04-18T05:04:49Z] <midfavila> where's that south park clip when you need it
[2026-04-18T05:04:56Z] <kris_> i use python sometimes
[2026-04-18T05:05:02Z] <kris_> kind of no better option for some things
[2026-04-18T05:05:07Z] <midfavila> i just don't know why you would use python instead of lisp
[2026-04-18T05:05:23Z] <kris_> to make things frictionless for windows users when im writing something that requires i support them
[2026-04-18T05:05:29Z] <midfavila> >supporting windows
[2026-04-18T05:05:31Z] <midfavila> hiss
[2026-04-18T05:05:33Z] <midfavila> hisss
[2026-04-18T05:05:37Z] <kris_> yeah mid that's like 95% of our playerbase at iw4x
[2026-04-18T05:05:44Z] <midfavila> HISS
[2026-04-18T05:05:44Z] <kris_> can either support them or the game dies
[2026-04-18T05:06:05Z] <kris_> fuck you expect me to do
[2026-04-18T05:06:10Z] <kris_> powershell? lmao
[2026-04-18T05:06:18Z] <midfavila> delphi
[2026-04-18T05:06:27Z] <kris_> if i really wanted to be a dick id just write it in lua
[2026-04-18T05:06:32Z] <kris_> because at least i actually like lua
[2026-04-18T05:06:51Z] <midfavila> hey delphi is okay
[2026-04-18T05:06:55Z] <midfavila> pascal languages are alright
[2026-04-18T05:06:56Z] <kris_> never heard of it
[2026-04-18T05:06:59Z] <midfavila> what
[2026-04-18T05:07:01Z] <midfavila> how
[2026-04-18T05:07:12Z] <kris_> because i write go, python, and shell
[2026-04-18T05:07:15Z] <kris_> and don't look around much past that
[2026-04-18T05:07:23Z] <kris_> erlang is the only thing that's caught my eye outside of those 3
[2026-04-18T05:07:29Z] <midfavila> :c
[2026-04-18T05:07:49Z] <kris_> if it makes you feel any better the only python script i use myself is streamrip
[2026-04-18T05:07:56Z] <kris_> ...my own fork of it because the devs refuse to maintain it.
[2026-04-18T05:08:17Z] <kris_> iirc yt-dlp is also python
[2026-04-18T05:08:20Z] <kris_> so i guess i also use that
[2026-04-18T05:08:55Z] <kris_> midfavila: ill look into delphi
[2026-04-18T05:09:07Z] <kris_> but next on my list of things i need to learn is C++ (i know i know, im not happy about it either)
[2026-04-18T05:09:14Z] <kris_> but for game hacking stuff it tends to be like, what you use
[2026-04-18T05:09:23Z] <kris_> be lucky you didnt meet me in my "java is the best language ever" arc
[2026-04-18T05:09:34Z] <kris_> i still like java though
[2026-04-18T05:12:52Z] <sad_plan> huh, it seems rsync from openbsd actually does compare hashes. it has no -c flag for this though. yet I get errors when rsyncing from my hdd to my laptop because hashes doesnt match. neat
[2026-04-18T05:13:00Z] <midfavila> java: for when you like your masochism with a side of bureaucracy
[2026-04-18T05:14:03Z] <kris_> yeah yeah
[2026-04-18T05:14:30Z] <kris_> i promised my friend who shipped off to basic training that id be more familiar with game development in either lua via love2d or raylib in C by the time he got out of basic so i gotta get cracking on that
[2026-04-18T05:14:49Z] <kris_> both of these are beyond too minimal for me though
[2026-04-18T05:15:25Z] <kris_> there are raylib bindings for go, though
[2026-04-18T05:15:40Z] <kris_> that would mean i'm learning the library as opposed to writing a game in a language i'm not the most familiar with
[2026-04-18T05:47:18Z] <sad_plan> omg. I just found the issue with neathersx2.... it doesnt support chd files built with createdvd. just those built with createcd.. ffs....
[2026-04-18T07:38:08Z] <midfavila> okay turns out xorg effectively requires mesa
[2026-04-18T07:38:23Z] <midfavila> you can get away with like the generic framebuffer and vesa drivers without it
[2026-04-18T07:38:31Z] <midfavila> but for multihead you absolutely need mesa 
[2026-04-18T07:38:48Z] <midfavila> since GLAMOR relies on it in the modesetting driver
[2026-04-18T07:38:58Z] <midfavila> friendship ENDED with x.org
[2026-04-18T07:39:02Z] <midfavila> xfbdev best friend now
[2026-04-18T07:39:38Z] <midfavila> i will NOT encourage slopshops 
[2026-04-18T07:41:11Z] <midfavila> but what if i installed x.org in conty and presented it as my own x server
[2026-04-18T07:41:15Z] <midfavila> delightfully devilish
[2026-04-18T07:51:39Z] <kris_> aurora borealis
[2026-04-18T07:55:29Z] <kris_> bout to remove my 500gb ssd from my ps3 since apparently ps3s murder ssds that arent samsung evos
[2026-04-18T07:55:51Z] <kris_> gonna just replace it with a 750gb 7200rpm 2.5" hard drive i "stole" from a dumpster laptop in like 2015
[2026-04-18T07:55:57Z] <kris_> hasnt been used since, should still work
[2026-04-18T07:56:28Z] <kris_> ps3 shipped with a 5400rpm hdd so its still a huge upgrade
[2026-04-18T07:59:15Z] <kris_> remember kids, if you see a computer at the dump you should steal what you can from it
[2026-04-18T07:59:20Z] <kris_> its insane what people just throw out
[2026-04-18T08:09:44Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: ive been thinking I could run openbox from conty, but for some reason it didnt work when I added conty.sh openbox into my sxrc. maybe I just messed up someplace, as thats really all I did
[2026-04-18T08:11:57Z] <sad_plan> kris_: if you lived here, you couldve probably just had my old desktop. didnt have any drives though, but it had a cpu, mb and ram. aswell as the case that is. and a broken gpu
[2026-04-18T08:12:04Z] <midfavila> sad_plan did you export DISPLAY
[2026-04-18T08:12:12Z] <midfavila> and make sure you had network passthrough 
[2026-04-18T08:12:23Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: I did not. 
[2026-04-18T08:12:26Z] <sad_plan> isnt that enabled by default?
[2026-04-18T08:12:27Z] <midfavila> you gotta do that
[2026-04-18T08:12:33Z] <midfavila> idk i've never used conty lol
[2026-04-18T08:12:40Z] <sad_plan> I think it is
[2026-04-18T08:12:44Z] <midfavila> usually DISPLAY is set by your X session tho
[2026-04-18T08:12:51Z] <midfavila> like you can't just log in and run shit
[2026-04-18T08:13:15Z] <midfavila> because DISPLAY could point at a local socket or a remote socket and there's no way to tell unless the user sets the variable 
[2026-04-18T08:13:46Z] <midfavila> XDM etcetera just set it as part of their startup process iirc
[2026-04-18T08:15:22Z] <midfavila> kris_:  i have literally seen people throw out like dual 1080 ti sli machines before
[2026-04-18T08:15:33Z] <midfavila> just toss them into the dump
[2026-04-18T08:15:41Z] <midfavila> i have no idea how people have that sort of money
[2026-04-18T08:15:48Z] <midfavila> this was like ten years ago too when that would have been hot shit
[2026-04-18T08:16:23Z] <midfavila> sad_plan: when are you gonna smuggle the entirety of #kisslinux into norway
[2026-04-18T08:18:36Z] <sad_plan> seems to error on some other wm running, which isnt the case, as im on swc right now. maybe ill look more into it later. would be really cool if we can run an x session through conty though
[2026-04-18T08:19:12Z] <midfavila> i mean i've gotten X to run on my host and clients to run on headless QEMU VMs before
[2026-04-18T08:19:21Z] <midfavila> so i'm sure it's possible
[2026-04-18T08:19:24Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: so, the whole lot of you and.. kris_? ironically, theres very few people here who actually run kiss though lol
[2026-04-18T08:19:40Z] <sad_plan> hm, nice
[2026-04-18T08:19:47Z] <midfavila> i feel like most people here just lurk
[2026-04-18T08:19:48Z] <midfavila> such is irc
[2026-04-18T08:20:02Z] <midfavila> everyone here needs to install kiss immediately
[2026-04-18T08:20:18Z] <kris_> sad_plan: im in here because i think you guys are cool
[2026-04-18T08:20:19Z] <midfavila> sad_plan: i want those stupid high nordic wages
[2026-04-18T08:20:22Z] <kris_> not because i use kiss
[2026-04-18T08:20:26Z] <sad_plan> yep. I do use kiss, but not kisslinux anymore. havent done for a really long time now, seeing as I created my own repo pretty quickly
[2026-04-18T08:20:26Z] <midfavila> i've seen what kind of money you make
[2026-04-18T08:20:46Z] <midfavila> fuckin cashiers making 30 bucks an hour 
[2026-04-18T08:21:01Z] <midfavila> dirt cheap rent compared to canada
[2026-04-18T08:21:02Z] <midfavila> >.>
[2026-04-18T08:21:28Z] <midfavila> and i mean idk i feel like that's sort of just the kiss experience
[2026-04-18T08:21:36Z] <midfavila> everyone inevitably spins off their own setup 
[2026-04-18T08:21:43Z] <midfavila> i haven't used mainline kiss since like 2022
[2026-04-18T08:21:45Z] <midfavila> lol
[2026-04-18T08:22:15Z] <sad_plan> kris_: sick. midfavila wages here is pretty good, but rent is easy 1000$+ usd, depending on the apartment or house. aswell as location.
[2026-04-18T08:22:39Z] <midfavila> those are ROOKIE numbers
[2026-04-18T08:22:48Z] <sad_plan> lol, for real?
[2026-04-18T08:22:57Z] <midfavila> yes lmao
[2026-04-18T08:23:11Z] <midfavila> rent is easily at least that much for the bottm of the barrel in third-tier cities and towns in canada
[2026-04-18T08:23:19Z] <midfavila> *and* we make way less
[2026-04-18T08:23:24Z] <midfavila> *and* we get less social assistance
[2026-04-18T08:23:26Z] <sad_plan> we saw a few houses for rent recently, and those were more like 1500, hell some is even 2k D:
[2026-04-18T08:23:34Z] <midfavila> that's a steal :D
[2026-04-18T08:23:52Z] <midfavila> it's pretty common to find one-bedroom apartments for that price here in mediocre cities and towns
[2026-04-18T08:24:36Z] <sad_plan> shounds like canada is just a large shit hole when it comes to living standards. with measly wages, and skyhigh housing prices
[2026-04-18T08:24:54Z] <midfavila> there's a reason why i fantasise about escaping to that wealthiest of lands
[2026-04-18T08:24:55Z] <midfavila> britain
[2026-04-18T08:24:57Z] <midfavila> = w=;
[2026-04-18T08:25:01Z] <midfavila> my standards are rock bottom
[2026-04-18T08:25:02Z] <sad_plan> but by all means, come to norway. i will welcome the both of you C:
[2026-04-18T08:25:12Z] <midfavila> literally all i want is to be able to afford fruit
[2026-04-18T08:25:18Z] <midfavila> it's like fucking four dollars for an orange
[2026-04-18T08:25:19Z] <kris_> im probably staying where i'm at
[2026-04-18T08:25:30Z] <sad_plan> kris_: install kiss already and move to norway
[2026-04-18T08:25:42Z] <kris_> im going to sit here and use my void and openbsd and live in the united states
[2026-04-18T08:25:50Z] <kris_> i can't just bail atm, maybe eventually
[2026-04-18T08:25:57Z] <sad_plan> i need linux friends locally. so we can still chat on irc anyway lol
[2026-04-18T08:25:59Z] <kris_> if i go somewhere initially itll probably be somewhere in eastern europe
[2026-04-18T08:26:13Z] <midfavila> we can sit next to each other and talk on irc
[2026-04-18T08:26:17Z] <midfavila> linux user experience
[2026-04-18T08:26:18Z] <sad_plan> eastern europe is pretty cheap, but wages are also lower
[2026-04-18T08:26:24Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: peak performance
[2026-04-18T08:26:24Z] <kris_> wages for tech stuff is pretty good
[2026-04-18T08:26:31Z] <kris_> my buddy in poland is balling out because he's a webdev in >poland
[2026-04-18T08:26:35Z] <midfavila> kris_ everyone will hate you if you move to eastern europe
[2026-04-18T08:26:40Z] <sad_plan> kris_: hm, maybe they are
[2026-04-18T08:26:41Z] <midfavila> nobody likes gentrifiers
[2026-04-18T08:26:56Z] <kris_> yeah im well aware of that
[2026-04-18T08:27:06Z] <kris_> im friends with a few bulgarians and not a single one of them wants me to be there
[2026-04-18T08:27:36Z] <sad_plan> take a hint kris_, youre not welcomed there
[2026-04-18T08:27:58Z] <midfavila> i feel like that might also have something to do with uh
[2026-04-18T08:28:00Z] <midfavila> >america
[2026-04-18T08:28:32Z] <midfavila> can't really ignore america's role in plunging eastern europe into crippling poverty
[2026-04-18T08:28:38Z] <sad_plan> now if rsync could just fucking transfer my files without messing up the hash, that would be nice. I have to restart it quite often, because the hash is off. hell even for the same file twice, or even trice....
[2026-04-18T08:28:52Z] <midfavila> sad_plan it's all the slop in rsync now
[2026-04-18T08:28:59Z] <midfavila> :D
[2026-04-18T08:29:07Z] <kris_> midfavila: yeah because that's absolutely my fault
[2026-04-18T08:29:17Z] <sad_plan> i dont belive openbsd put slop into their rsync mid
[2026-04-18T08:29:21Z] <kris_> ive been arguing with a lot of people about that recently ngl
[2026-04-18T08:29:25Z] <kris_> that type of thing i mean
[2026-04-18T08:29:35Z] <midfavila> and it wasn't the fault of regular everday germans during ww2
[2026-04-18T08:29:39Z] <kris_> indeed it wasn't 
[2026-04-18T08:29:44Z] <midfavila> they were just following the rules and paying taxes
[2026-04-18T08:29:48Z] <midfavila> and doing nothing at all 
[2026-04-18T08:29:52Z] <kris_> that's actually where my family comes from
[2026-04-18T08:29:54Z] <kris_> mostly
[2026-04-18T08:30:01Z] <kris_> though my family was on the wrong side of that
[2026-04-18T08:30:05Z] <midfavila> i
[2026-04-18T08:30:06Z] <midfavila> mean
[2026-04-18T08:30:07Z] <midfavila> like
[2026-04-18T08:30:10Z] <midfavila> that's most germans
[2026-04-18T08:30:13Z] <midfavila> so
[2026-04-18T08:30:16Z] * midfavila shrugs???
[2026-04-18T08:30:23Z] <kris_> my great great great whatever grandfather and his family were actual nazis
[2026-04-18T08:30:23Z] <midfavila> maybe you can qualify for a passport
[2026-04-18T08:30:32Z] <midfavila> who knows
[2026-04-18T08:30:39Z] <kris_> i dont know if they'd want me given the circumstances around that
[2026-04-18T08:30:47Z] <kris_> i havent asked many questions about it but apparently they bailed to like south america or something
[2026-04-18T08:30:50Z] <kris_> and somehow ended up here
[2026-04-18T08:30:52Z] <midfavila> argentina
[2026-04-18T08:30:53Z] <midfavila> lol
[2026-04-18T08:31:16Z] <sad_plan> maybe kris is the child of dr mengele. he fled to argentina
[2026-04-18T08:31:28Z] <kris_> nah, main dude im aware of was a pilot
[2026-04-18T08:31:38Z] <kris_> afaik he flew for the blitz
[2026-04-18T08:32:08Z] <kris_> anyway we're way off the mark
[2026-04-18T08:32:15Z] <kris_> i dont know of any country that would let me stay for an extended period of time
[2026-04-18T08:32:20Z] <kris_> im going to be in romania for a few months soon though
[2026-04-18T08:32:28Z] <midfavila> you should at least check if you qualify for a passport
[2026-04-18T08:32:30Z] <kris_> my school offered me a study abroad thing
[2026-04-18T08:32:39Z] <midfavila> i'm pretty sure they have pretty lax laws around that
[2026-04-18T08:32:48Z] <kris_> midfavila: ireland might also let me in
[2026-04-18T08:32:50Z] <midfavila> i know that italy did up until like two seconds ago
[2026-04-18T08:32:53Z] <kris_> im pretty sure i *still* have family in ireland
[2026-04-18T08:32:58Z] <kris_> its a huge minority for me though
[2026-04-18T08:33:01Z] <sad_plan> theres a workaround in the EU kris. just get out of shengen or some shit for a few months, and now you can return to the rest of europe. I dont remember the specifics though
[2026-04-18T08:33:04Z] <midfavila> fucking hell everyone i know qualifies for a passport 
[2026-04-18T08:33:08Z] <midfavila> but i don't 
[2026-04-18T08:33:12Z] <midfavila> it's not faaaaaaaair
[2026-04-18T08:33:13Z] <sad_plan> iirc, you can just go to poland for 3 months every.. 3 months or something?
[2026-04-18T08:33:15Z] <kris_> im like a very clean mixture of native american and german
[2026-04-18T08:33:18Z] <midfavila> fucking ENGLAND 
[2026-04-18T08:33:26Z] <midfavila> fucking around with canada's citizenship act 
[2026-04-18T08:33:37Z] <midfavila> absolute bullshit
[2026-04-18T08:33:39Z] <kris_> apparently i do qualify for some DEI stuff because of the native american thing
[2026-04-18T08:33:45Z] <kris_> but i refuse to partake in that, i'm white as hell
[2026-04-18T08:33:52Z] <kris_> like i dont view that as *for me*
[2026-04-18T08:33:55Z] <kris_> id feel bad
[2026-04-18T08:34:01Z] <midfavila> idk man take what you can get
[2026-04-18T08:34:07Z] <midfavila> the entire fuckin economy is falling apart
[2026-04-18T08:34:29Z] <kris_> oh nah i'm good
[2026-04-18T08:34:43Z] <kris_> i dont partake in stuff like this because i'm fine
[2026-04-18T08:34:49Z] <kris_> like set up for life type fine
[2026-04-18T08:34:56Z] <midfavila> well, good for you
[2026-04-18T08:34:59Z] <midfavila> = w=;
[2026-04-18T08:35:03Z] <kris_> wasnt trying to flex
[2026-04-18T08:35:09Z] <kris_> i just dont want any part of this because id rather resources go to those who need it
[2026-04-18T08:35:57Z] <kris_> the ps3 has been moved to the 750gb hdd, still indeed does works
[2026-04-18T08:36:02Z] <kris_> thanks to whatever goon threw it out i guess
[2026-04-18T08:36:30Z] <kris_> i have a lot of hardware ive just pulled out of dumpsters and stuff
[2026-04-18T09:11:14Z] <sad_plan> I should redo my audio setup though on my laptop. cmus is giving me rendering issues beause of swc. I was thinking I could fetch something scriptable. but every time I find something, its either C++, or too many dependencies....
[2026-04-18T09:11:34Z] <sad_plan> for some reason, everything I run into these days is written in C++, I dont get it
[2026-04-18T09:11:44Z] <kris_> lot of people like the language
[2026-04-18T09:12:07Z] <kris_> would you be less opposed to go
[2026-04-18T09:12:37Z] <sad_plan> well I want it to be written in C. and I was thinking I was going to package it under oasis, so less dependencies, and all written in C is basically a requirement here
[2026-04-18T09:13:12Z] <sad_plan> I cant even compile go anymore on my laptop. some issue with the makefiles on newer versions just bork for some reason
[2026-04-18T09:13:24Z] <sad_plan> probably some oksh issue, im not sure
[2026-04-18T09:14:07Z] <sad_plan> what did you have in mind though kris_ ?
[2026-04-18T09:16:02Z] <kris_> nothing, i was just curious if you were less like theoretically opposed to go
[2026-04-18T09:18:03Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2026-04-18T16:23:45Z] <jedavies> Anyone else had issues building firefox after updating to rust 1.95?
[2026-04-18T16:23:52Z] <jedavies> > error[E0599]: no method named `select` found for struct `Mask<T, N>` in the current scope
[2026-04-18T16:38:54Z] <sewn> eeeeeeeeeeee
[2026-04-18T16:38:58Z] <kris_> no way
[2026-04-18T16:39:25Z] <sewn> hi kris dletarune
[2026-04-18T16:39:37Z] <kris_> every time sewn leaves i know she'll be back sewn
[2026-04-18T16:40:02Z] <sewn> /me nods
[2026-04-18T16:40:04Z] <sewn> BLEH
[2026-04-18T16:40:14Z] * sewn nods
[2026-04-18T18:00:52Z] <sad_plan> holy shit,its jedavies. thought you didnt do kiss anymore
[2026-04-18T18:12:03Z] <jedavies> sad_plan: kinda, but it ended up mutating into something else for me. Spent a while writing a new package manager. It's a bit different, but the source package format is much the same as kiss
[2026-04-18T18:13:11Z] <jedavies> Instead of creating packages as compressed tar files, it outputs erofs archives. These are mounted and then overlaid into /usr to form the system
[2026-04-18T18:13:49Z] <sad_plan> yeah, you were doing that glasnost thingy. thought it was dead in the water. have you just been working behind the scenes? or has it been a while now?
[2026-04-18T18:13:55Z] <sad_plan> hm, unique. interesting
[2026-04-18T18:15:29Z] <jedavies> Yeah have been working on it in the background on and off for a bit. I'm dogfooding it now so I might publish it soon. Will see how it goes over the next month or so.
[2026-04-18T18:18:57Z] <sad_plan> nice