[2026-04-21T07:18:54Z] midfavila: we still have plan9 to learn more things about OSs ;) [2026-04-21T07:19:59Z] i think the issues lies more in the hardware section here. there lots of OS's to choose from here, but the hardware support on said OS's is.. lacking in some areas [2026-04-21T07:21:10Z] k0ga: p9 is really interesting. too bad I dont have any supported hardware :( [2026-04-21T07:27:12Z] sad_plan: you can play with a rpi [2026-04-21T07:28:30Z] k0ga: I have a 1b in a drawer. is that even supported? [2026-04-21T07:28:39Z] also rpis are getting really expensive now too lol [2026-04-21T07:28:53Z] yes, it is supported [2026-04-21T07:29:14Z] hm. cool [2026-04-21T08:11:32Z] midfavila: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt-research/mnt-station [2026-04-21T10:07:03Z] https://github.com/kkrruumm/pcfu [2026-04-21T10:07:07Z] maybe this would be useful for some of you guys [2026-04-21T10:07:25Z] i finally decided to finish it [2026-04-21T12:41:02Z] https://mastodon.sdf.org/@SDF/110234384479459611 [2026-04-21T12:57:07Z] sick [2026-04-21T13:50:39Z] kris_: why [2026-04-21T13:50:58Z] i have a similar script but instead of a generic script its actually just 30 lines of shell script [2026-04-21T13:51:30Z] the "$i is unset. Cannot continue." is awful because shell has built in unset variable detection : ${a:?error message} [2026-04-21T13:51:52Z] documentation should be kept OUT of the program and in a man page or the README [2026-04-21T13:52:49Z] and generally supporting simutaneously a command line flag and options seem quite unusual and not that simple in practice [2026-04-21T13:53:22Z] you also do not need sed to parse json, might as well use either jq or manual json navigation in posix sh (which ive done before to fetch the current record) [2026-04-21T13:54:21Z] if the dns record set failed, the response code wouldn't be 200, so adding --fail-with-body with || exit 1 is the way to go typically [2026-04-21T14:08:26Z] sewn: as for the why, i want to always access my home IP [2026-04-21T14:08:40Z] also yeah you're right about the rest ill fix it [2026-04-21T14:09:00Z] though im probably keeping the help output in the program [2026-04-21T14:11:06Z] i write things like this because i never actually package any of this stuff i just throw them in /usr/local/bin [2026-04-21T14:11:46Z] in terms of the docs in the script i mean [2026-04-21T14:31:53Z] good shout about the ${a:?xyz}, i forgot about that being a thing [2026-04-21T14:32:01Z] i have several things i need to clean up [2026-04-21T15:24:15Z] this is a new one for me. im looking at something on aliexpress. and this item comes in 4 colors. theres LOTS of listing for said item. but for whatever reason, if I choose some other color than the black one, it just says this item cant be shipped here. wtf [2026-04-21T15:30:07Z] that is a little odd [2026-04-21T15:30:55Z] yep. its even like this for lots of the listings. really wierd [2026-04-21T15:32:35Z] operating situation [2026-04-21T15:32:58Z] lol [2026-04-21T15:34:05Z] im also somewhat impressed by the fact that the listing for this, miyoo mini plus, with the 128g sd card included, says it comes with 25k games. I dont belive there is that many games available for the consoles it supports. but Ive not yet counted [2026-04-21T15:34:43Z] i bet its going to be loaded up with a bunch of romhacks [2026-04-21T15:36:49Z] that might be the case actually. litnxt sells these too with a 128/256 cards, loaded with onionOS, and games. but the listing doesnt say the amount. but seeing as the older consoles take next to no space, you should easily be able to all the pre PS1 consoles games onto this [2026-04-21T15:37:47Z] im tempted to just not get a card from either ali or litnext, and just get my own card instead and load it myself. but i dunno. theres a local shop which is just around the corner from home, which sells these aswell, but obviosly for a higher prices, and less space [2026-04-21T15:37:59Z] i mean id just get my own sd card [2026-04-21T15:38:10Z] its worth getting a high quality sd card if nothing more [2026-04-21T15:38:17Z] samsung pro endurance ones are crazy write tolerant [2026-04-21T15:38:23Z] the price for it home from litnxt with 128g card, is the same as with a 64g card at home [2026-04-21T15:38:33Z] ill have to find the notes but they're supposedly rated for more writes than my desktops 1tb 970 evo plus ssd is [2026-04-21T15:38:36Z] yeah i was kinda thinking maybe just get one from ali too. but im a bit iffy about it [2026-04-21T15:38:42Z] i do have a 32G one at home though [2026-04-21T15:38:54Z] think it was from hama or something. [2026-04-21T15:40:25Z] I just think the quality ones are terribly expensive. im not 100% this is something I wanna continue to use either. which is kinda why im iffy about spending too much here [2026-04-21T15:40:46Z] I have no issues generally when it comes to get quality goods for a higher price, if i know its a better product [2026-04-21T15:41:23Z] idk i guess it just depends [2026-04-21T15:41:37Z] personally id just be pissed if my sd card failed shortly after i loaded it up [2026-04-21T15:41:43Z] i put a 256gb samsung pro endurance in my ps vita [2026-04-21T15:41:47Z] via an sd2vita [2026-04-21T15:42:07Z] keep in mind sd cards don't have SMART so you're flying blind [2026-04-21T15:42:19Z] but i guess if it isnt that big of a deal then it's not that big of a deal [2026-04-21T15:42:40Z] yeah I get that. that would obvously suck really hard. and it obviously also fails when its the least convinient lol [2026-04-21T15:42:56Z] the 128g pro endurance is like $90 here :( [2026-04-21T15:43:08Z] its more expensive than the miyoo mini plus alone lol [2026-04-21T15:44:26Z] what the actual fuck. the 256 one is $180 ish. lemme check the exchangerate to be more correct [2026-04-21T15:45:36Z] oh, its worse. the 128 is $96, and the 256g is $192. daaamn [2026-04-21T15:55:02Z] wtf [2026-04-21T15:55:07Z] mine was like $35 [2026-04-21T15:55:13Z] though that was before storage got really pricey [2026-04-21T15:59:25Z] yeah, that might be the case. theres also a flat 25% tax on everything here, which naturally increases all prices automatically 25% here, and then some for profit [2026-04-21T16:00:46Z] if you could find that chart you mentioned, that would also be really nice to look at. if not, could probably look it up someplace [2026-04-21T16:21:08Z] yeah ill look [2026-04-21T16:22:04Z] sweet [2026-04-21T17:34:03Z] sdf giving out a loaner mnt reform is really sick [2026-04-21T17:34:11Z] i dont qualify for that but it would be cool to play with one of htose [2026-04-21T17:34:12Z] those* [2026-04-21T17:38:28Z] indeed. ive been thinking about getting the reform next for a while now. even the pocket reform too, which is really cute. but I dont see the need to have both. [2026-04-21T17:38:52Z] my laptop also currently works, despite me botched my keyboard keycaps earlier :') [2026-04-21T17:39:20Z] i don't think it's something i'd personally want to get [2026-04-21T17:39:35Z] i like my thinkpad t480 it's just getting difficult to find good quality batteries, though ifixit vets and sells them [2026-04-21T17:39:55Z] i need to get a new internal battery at some point, i bought the ebay special and it went down to like 60% capacity within *maybe* 4 months [2026-04-21T17:40:07Z] my external big battery is solid still [2026-04-21T17:41:25Z] i really like their goals. bringing open hardware to the masses. im a bit iffy about the whole arm thing, as I have no experience with it. and if I were to bring my oakiss over to it, it probably have to fix stuff I dont know how to fix... [2026-04-21T17:41:39Z] its nice to see you can still get parts for those old machines though [2026-04-21T17:41:48Z] i dont mind arm on servers for the most part but i don't really want to use anything other than x86 on desktop/laptop [2026-04-21T17:41:51Z] too much incompatibility [2026-04-21T17:41:56Z] given i do unfortunately play games sometimes [2026-04-21T17:42:16Z] box64/86 is still a thing though, and it seems to be rather decent actually [2026-04-21T17:42:20Z] i wonder which one is more #kisslinux approved- gnu guix or gentoo [2026-04-21T17:42:24Z] i know mid likes guix [2026-04-21T17:42:30Z] or is indifferent about it at least idk [2026-04-21T17:43:01Z] people have gotten a suprisingly amount of games on android handhelds using gamenative, winlator etc [2026-04-21T17:43:12Z] yeah someone got iw4x running on android via winlator the other day and it blew my mind [2026-04-21T17:43:14Z] playably at that [2026-04-21T17:43:24Z] he showed up in our discord asking for help with graphical bugs on it [2026-04-21T17:43:41Z] neither imo. guix does however atleast bring something unique to the table though, ill give it that. outside of that, im not the most qualified person to talk about either of them [2026-04-21T17:43:56Z] gentoo is kinda spooky due to some really stupid default behavior [2026-04-21T17:44:04Z] nice [2026-04-21T17:44:15Z] such as the libvirt service blowing up your nftables firewall rules by default and reverting to allowing all in/out traffic [2026-04-21T17:44:20Z] and then it persists itself to disk on service restart/stop [2026-04-21T17:44:27Z] yeah, im not a huge fan of gentoo. its way too complex. also I dont like python. but eh.. [2026-04-21T17:44:57Z] such an amazing feature, isnt it? :P [2026-04-21T17:45:11Z] gentoo is absolutely incredible in theory [2026-04-21T17:45:13Z] i LOVE use flags [2026-04-21T17:45:38Z] not to mention the fact that i'd never need to package anything because it's all already there- being realistic at the moment i still have such little free time that i don't want to deal with packaging [2026-04-21T17:46:14Z] though there's nothing really stopping me from implementing use flags on top of a more simple (no python) build system [2026-04-21T17:46:15Z] sure the useflags is a nice thing. in theory. have a feeling that this breaks more than people might expect, because flags require things you explicitly disabled. gentoo also adds lots of patches on top of packages to support this feature, along with other stuff [2026-04-21T17:46:32Z] yeah a lot of the use flags are gentoos own patches [2026-04-21T17:46:40Z] which makes the maintenance required to maintain the repo go through the roof [2026-04-21T17:46:56Z] but it does work really well [2026-04-21T17:47:08Z] if you need to enable something emerge will tell you what you need to enable and where [2026-04-21T17:47:25Z] and you can do it on a global basis as well as a per package basis which is neat, so if you wanted 0 bluetooth functionality you can just disable it and recompile [2026-04-21T17:47:29Z] globally [2026-04-21T17:47:33Z] well, gentoo has lots of packages, thats all fine and dandy, but so does arch. i would rather use arch, than gentoo ironically. probably because im more familiar with arch universe I suppose. I used to use artix for a while, and I have cachyOS on my desktop [2026-04-21T17:47:47Z] i do not like arch [2026-04-21T17:47:59Z] i dont think it's bad or anything don't get me wrong it just doesnt behave how i want [2026-04-21T17:48:12Z] largely due to systemd as well as just not being a fan of pacman compared to xbps or otherwise [2026-04-21T17:48:24Z] though i'll take it over like, dnf or zypper [2026-04-21T17:48:32Z] well that does sound like a neat feature for sure. kinda avoids the issue I alluded to [2026-04-21T17:48:33Z] especially zypper [2026-04-21T17:49:10Z] im not saying I like arch, but for me, cachyOS just works, and it has what I want, and made it simple for me to get where I wanted without any hassles [2026-04-21T17:49:36Z] sad_plan: it really is smooth, i did my second gentoo install ever a few months ago and it took maybe 2 hours total including use flags for everything [2026-04-21T17:49:48Z] im fortunatly not really exposed too much to systemd, or pacman really for that matter, except when im uninstalling something or looking for a package [2026-04-21T17:50:00Z] hm, nice [2026-04-21T17:50:32Z] https://github.com/kkrruumm/gentoo-files [2026-04-21T17:50:39Z] my limited number of stuff is here (i was setting it up for a virt server) [2026-04-21T17:50:50Z] I see [2026-04-21T17:51:49Z] OH, I know something that you might actually like. or maybe not, but maybe its not as inconvinient as other things - https://github.com/rnpnr/opkg [2026-04-21T17:52:02Z] its basically oasis, but instead of as an OS, it installs alongside it [2026-04-21T17:52:11Z] bonus points for 100% statically linked [2026-04-21T17:52:31Z] rnpnr uses gentoo afaik [2026-04-21T17:53:12Z] eh maybe [2026-04-21T17:53:18Z] rnpnr? [2026-04-21T17:53:32Z] his name is randy, but his nick is rnpnr [2026-04-21T17:53:48Z] really kiss linux should take me a weekend in theory now that i know crux is a thing, ive mentioned that a few times now at this point though [2026-04-21T17:53:50Z] i dont know him though. he has just made this, and made some contributions to oasis [2026-04-21T17:53:55Z] given they have literally everything i need already [2026-04-21T17:54:03Z] and their packaging is reasonable [2026-04-21T17:54:07Z] that being not much disabled [2026-04-21T17:54:27Z] so, kiss linux this weekend then? C: [2026-04-21T17:55:00Z] nah im putting a lot of thought into what id like to move my desktop to [2026-04-21T17:55:10Z] guix/freebsd/kiss/crux/gentoo [2026-04-21T17:55:22Z] probably not crux because its so similar to kiss but slightly off of what im looking for [2026-04-21T17:55:29Z] (it uses glibc) [2026-04-21T17:56:02Z] gentoo is honestly a vvery happy medium for me if i can just get over the usage of openrc [2026-04-21T17:56:13Z] and fix dangerous defaults as i come across them [2026-04-21T17:56:53Z] i just really dislike their build system, it's so easy to package something for kiss or void but it becomes very convoluted on gentoo [2026-04-21T17:57:15Z] doable nonetheless [2026-04-21T17:59:41Z] yeah, kiss' packaging system is undoubtfully the easiest ive ever seen. despite other distros like alpine and arch not being a complete turd, I think theyre making things unneccessarly complex when it doesnt need to. [2026-04-21T18:00:01Z] I suppose they do this because of *muuh featuressss* [2026-04-21T18:01:13Z] very fair honestly i love alpine package templates [2026-04-21T18:04:28Z] alpine is fine I suppose. atleast its readable. others are less so. gentoo being one of them [2026-04-21T18:05:22Z] voids arent terrible [2026-04-21T18:06:17Z] omg.. if theres one thing I dont like about rc, is its pickyness with flags when running commands. im trying to create an ipc script for mpv, so I can use mpv to play my music instead of cmus. not mpv uses --flag, which is fine, but when im trying to do --flag=$flag, it doesnt work with a variable. I can do '--flag=anotherflag', but no '--flag=$flag'. its annoying [2026-04-21T18:06:28Z] I dont belive ive seen voids actually [2026-04-21T18:10:27Z] https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/tree/master/srcpkgs/blocky [2026-04-21T18:10:31Z] this is my one package in the official repo [2026-04-21T18:10:45Z] they have build styles to get rid of redundant build commands [2026-04-21T18:11:06Z] and wrappers around everything like vsv / vinstall / etc [2026-04-21T18:11:08Z] vlicense [2026-04-21T18:42:09Z] hm. I see. doesnt look too bad [2026-04-21T20:51:50Z] kris_: Were you in the console scene? [2026-04-21T21:00:04Z] kris_: I read an article earlier today on toms hardware about failure rates on sdcards. and there were som fake ones, which had a whopping 27 cycles before they died.. impressive [2026-04-21T21:28:42Z] Guest43: game console scene? [2026-04-21T21:29:01Z] sad_plan: yeah you really gotta be careful with that [2026-04-21T21:30:00Z] im guessing console jailbreaking/modding stuff. [2026-04-21T21:30:07Z] yeah, I kinda figured when i read that. lol