[2026-04-26T01:09:46Z] many such cases [2026-04-26T01:32:23Z] for some reason, it wasnt worse than actually adding a sleep to my init. I have no clue as to why [2026-04-26T01:32:34Z] which also stopped hammering my cpu lol [2026-04-26T01:33:23Z] I was curiuous as to why my laptop fan started zooming right away after booting it. I suppose this was it. [2026-04-26T01:34:03Z] wierdly enough, benavento/rc and 9front rc is very similar, but benavento didnt hammer my cpu when I did wait() $pid [2026-04-26T01:56:08Z] https://github.com/benjaminogles/ledger.bash [2026-04-26T01:56:11Z] neat little thing [2026-04-26T02:09:25Z] ive created a complete and utter fucking mess [2026-04-26T02:09:36Z] https://share.boba.best/raw/pzwaA1EA [2026-04-26T02:09:54Z] going to wait until i move to clean this up given thats happening in like a month or two [2026-04-26T02:10:03Z] but aaaaaaaaa [2026-04-26T02:25:51Z] midfavila: bash though, but the idea is nice [2026-04-26T02:26:44Z] kris_: your cables ia a mess to say the least indeed [2026-04-26T02:26:57Z] yeah it kinda snowballed [2026-04-26T02:27:14Z] i didnt have this much stuff in 1 spot so i didnt bother doing any cable management and then it just built up over the last 3 years [2026-04-26T02:27:42Z] and never bothered to clean up your cables? you monster D: [2026-04-26T02:28:35Z] itll be done eventually!! [2026-04-26T02:31:32Z] thats just like hearing people with a project car parked behind the barn - "ill fix it eventually" only to just let it sit forever and get worse over time [2026-04-26T02:31:42Z] ill belive it when I see it kris_ [2026-04-26T02:31:53Z] also, kisslinux when? [2026-04-26T02:32:01Z] after youve cleaned up the cables? lol [2026-04-26T02:32:29Z] sad_plan: there's only about 850-900 physical lines in the entire project [2026-04-26T02:32:35Z] i doubt it would be hard to port to posix shell [2026-04-26T02:32:48Z] if i have a hot minute i might give it a shot idk [2026-04-26T02:33:02Z] it's been a while since i've done any serious programming [2026-04-26T02:33:25Z] you make it sound like 800+ lines of shell is not a whole lot, but ok. its probably fine [2026-04-26T02:34:05Z] sad_plan: im moving out in like a month or two [2026-04-26T02:34:11Z] so im gonna be redoing it in a month or two physically [2026-04-26T02:34:14Z] so itll be managed then [2026-04-26T02:34:27Z] kris_: and then kisslinux too?? [2026-04-26T02:34:59Z] probably freebsd on the desktop to be totally honest [2026-04-26T02:37:44Z] sad_plan: that includes the awk code lol [2026-04-26T02:37:53Z] let me check again real quick [2026-04-26T02:38:20Z] 407 physical lines of awk and 398 of bash [2026-04-26T02:38:39Z] midfavila: is awk standardized in any meaningfull way? like posix [2026-04-26T02:38:47Z] i believe so eys [2026-04-26T02:38:48Z] thats more managable imo [2026-04-26T02:38:48Z] yes [2026-04-26T02:39:03Z] then the awk stuff doesnt even need to be touched. nice [2026-04-26T02:39:16Z] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/awk.html [2026-04-26T02:39:21Z] well, there are dialects [2026-04-26T02:39:30Z] if it's gnu awk then there are extensions that might need to be dealt with [2026-04-26T02:39:41Z] but the core of the language is standardised as part of posix [2026-04-26T02:40:00Z] good opportunity to learn awk properly actually... [2026-04-26T02:40:08Z] especially now that i have my pinenote running properly [2026-04-26T02:40:10Z] yeah I was kinda worried about those gnu things.. [2026-04-26T02:40:34Z] ive been meaning to learn awk too. I have a video about it, which is really good. but I never finished it lol [2026-04-26T02:41:41Z] have you read "the awk programming language"? [2026-04-26T02:41:53Z] I have not [2026-04-26T02:41:56Z] i'll probably be reading it soon [2026-04-26T02:42:02Z] it's exactly what it says on the tin [2026-04-26T02:42:09Z] iirc kernighan et al wrote it [2026-04-26T02:42:31Z] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_AWK_Programming_Language [2026-04-26T02:42:41Z] aho, kernighan, and weinberger [2026-04-26T02:42:46Z] also holy fuck it's 140USD on amazon??? [2026-04-26T02:42:50Z] why are books so expensive now? [2026-04-26T02:43:28Z] pretty sure you can.. you know, just download it someplace else lol [2026-04-26T02:43:36Z] https://awk.dev/ [2026-04-26T02:43:49Z] sad_plan: yes i could download it and i will but i also like physical books [2026-04-26T02:43:57Z] PDFs are objectively inferior [2026-04-26T02:44:41Z] I suppose so, but im struggling with books in general, so pdfs are just better for me [2026-04-26T02:45:29Z] that's fair [2026-04-26T02:45:39Z] i just find the intentional act of like [2026-04-26T02:45:43Z] sitting down with a physical book to read [2026-04-26T02:46:06Z] and actually exerting the modicum of effort necessary to like, turn the page and shit just makes it a more engaging experience or something idk [2026-04-26T02:46:15Z] it's too easy to get distracted when i'm using a computer for it [2026-04-26T02:46:35Z] not to mention fiddling with rendering settings and stuff [2026-04-26T02:53:26Z] you know what [2026-04-26T02:53:29Z] it's just occurred to me [2026-04-26T02:53:45Z] why have we been using sed -i and now workarounds to edit files in-place instead of using ed? [2026-04-26T02:53:53Z] legitimate question for anyone who knows [2026-04-26T02:53:59Z] ed is missing a ton of the features sed has [2026-04-26T02:54:10Z] idk what off the top of my head but i ran into limits with my bshdb script [2026-04-26T02:55:11Z] * midfavila squints [2026-04-26T02:55:11Z] if you have vi installed you can also use that as a scriptable editor [2026-04-26T02:55:13Z] which features? [2026-04-26T02:55:29Z] also fwiw this is specifically in the context of kiss packages [2026-04-26T02:55:30Z] i cant recall but i wasnt able to complete my bshdb script [2026-04-26T02:55:35Z] with ed [2026-04-26T02:55:38Z] weird [2026-04-26T02:55:44Z] what ed do you use? [2026-04-26T02:55:48Z] https://github.com/kkrruumm/bshdb [2026-04-26T02:55:56Z] whatever void ships [2026-04-26T02:56:06Z] =w= [2026-04-26T02:56:51Z] i need to redo this [2026-04-26T02:56:56Z] theres such a better way [2026-04-26T02:58:13Z] it's definitely dense [2026-04-26T02:58:36Z] you should comment your code more [2026-04-26T02:58:58Z] it's a neat project though [2026-04-26T02:59:36Z] i dont really comment shit i dont want other people sending PRs to [2026-04-26T02:59:41Z] toxic i know but it's effective [2026-04-26T03:01:43Z] you could just say you don't take PRs [2026-04-26T03:01:48Z] pff [2026-04-26T03:02:22Z] tbh i probably should [2026-04-26T03:02:32Z] idk if it matters either way, the only PRs people send me are half broken or completely incorrect [2026-04-26T03:02:43Z] and then they argue me that they're correct when it's my project [2026-04-26T03:02:46Z] and i just close it and implement it myself [2026-04-26T03:32:09Z] but kris_ !!! they said they were correct. you cant dispute that. someone said it on the internet, therefor it must be true!!! [2026-04-26T03:35:16Z] https://github.com/kkrruumm/void-install-script/pull/14 [2026-04-26T03:35:18Z] this is mainly what im referencing [2026-04-26T03:35:24Z] there was another thread from this guy as well [2026-04-26T03:35:42Z] which is why i was immediately hostile [2026-04-26T03:42:19Z] oh lol > ext4 should be restricted [2026-04-26T03:42:30Z] great comeback indeed [2026-04-26T03:43:34Z] im guessing he didnt understand what i meant [2026-04-26T03:43:49Z] and/or didnt understand that it's pointless to mix btrfs and lvm when btrfs can do everything lvm can [2026-04-26T03:43:53Z] (except for be stable, lol) [2026-04-26T03:44:33Z] anyway usually this is how people trying to send me stuff goes for whatever reason [2026-04-26T03:46:51Z] well, I suppose its better to have no prs are issues, if this is what youd get. I usually dont get anything. which sometimes bothers me, but I suppose it doesnt matter, as my software is really niche lol [2026-04-26T03:51:15Z] there's also kind of the factor of people "drive-by"ing the project [2026-04-26T03:51:26Z] like swinging by and adding some huge feature and vanishing so the maintenance inevitably falls back on me [2026-04-26T03:52:00Z] yeah, thats not really decent of them either [2026-04-26T03:52:01Z] sad_plan: with most of your stuff idk what id add [2026-04-26T03:52:45Z] they're super duper minimal so i probably wouldnt want to add anything(?) because i wouldnt figure excess features are welcome [2026-04-26T03:58:42Z] well, sure, my stuff is really minima, which is by design. but I dont see myself just outright denying new features just because. if theres a feature someone tells me about which I didnt know i wanted/needed, then I dont see why not [2026-04-26T03:59:55Z] generally, PR's or issues are welcomed in my mind. but I suppose you gotta use your head before making them, and maybe ask yourself; does this align with the project? or am I just mindlessly adding a feature here? [2026-04-26T04:04:16Z] on another note, regarding excess features, I added the option to interact with multiple services at once (start, stop, activate, deactive, and restart), and later I was kinda unsure wether this was a good choice, seeing as one could just use a for loop for this lol [2026-04-26T04:04:42Z] I do use this feature from time to time though, and it is quicker to type than creating a for loop [2026-04-26T04:04:44Z] so theres that [2026-04-26T04:04:58Z] finally, time to go home and go to sleep [2026-04-26T04:26:13Z] sad_plan: most people don't ask themselves that question [2026-04-26T04:26:15Z] probably any questions [2026-04-26T04:26:34Z] but okie gngn [2026-04-26T04:56:40Z] https://git.sr.ht/~mil/transito [2026-04-26T04:56:47Z] another banger from the mepo/sxmo people [2026-04-26T04:56:57Z] offline transit route calculator [2026-04-26T04:57:43Z] it's going to be so awesome to have all this stuff running on a little pocket computer like that sharpikeebo or some sort of sqfmi beepy clone [2026-04-26T05:00:18Z] i keep seeing people online complain about how weaker handhelds aren't "useful" compared to smartphones and i honestly have no idea what people are on about [2026-04-26T05:00:24Z] it's a linux computer in your pocket [2026-04-26T05:00:30Z] like you can do whatever you want with it [2026-04-26T05:00:33Z] how is that not useful [2026-04-26T05:00:37Z] i think people have lost their god damn minds with that [2026-04-26T05:00:51Z] i bought my phone in 2020, iirc it released in 2019 [2026-04-26T05:01:01Z] i know a lot of people who are like >how do you use that thing dude its so old and slow [2026-04-26T05:01:04Z] ?????? [2026-04-26T05:01:13Z] what the hell are people doing with their phones [2026-04-26T05:01:20Z] i have no clue [2026-04-26T05:01:27Z] honestly i'm so glad i don't have a smartphone any more [2026-04-26T05:01:34Z] i have a moderately smart phone [2026-04-26T05:01:39Z] i just dont really have any apps installed [2026-04-26T05:01:48Z] i'm pretty content with my wiphone uwu [2026-04-26T05:01:58Z] atm i've got a oneplus 8t 12gb ram model with lineageos+microg [2026-04-26T05:02:06Z] been working fine since i got it [2026-04-26T05:02:12Z] i need to bully the developers into giving me a copy of the source tree so i can make some improvements though [2026-04-26T05:02:33Z] i want to try and port the pocketmage's web browser to it, first of all, with just enough capability to get through captive portals [2026-04-26T05:02:42Z] then you can use the phone anywhere that has public wifi [2026-04-26T05:02:47Z] get wifi anywhere you go [2026-04-26T05:02:54Z] meh [2026-04-26T05:02:56Z] lazy [2026-04-26T05:03:01Z] referencing a meme [2026-04-26T05:03:03Z] nevermind [2026-04-26T05:03:06Z] rip [2026-04-26T05:03:13Z] i did have a data sim in an old laptop of mine [2026-04-26T05:03:17Z] that was awesome [2026-04-26T05:03:22Z] idk i have a void container on my phone and i ran a modded minecraft server on it with like 500 forge mods [2026-04-26T05:03:33Z] port forwarded through mullvad back when they had port forwarding on the same device [2026-04-26T05:03:39Z] ran perfectly fine because it has 12gb of ram [2026-04-26T05:03:39Z] i had a janky ass shell script that used sysfs to initialise the modem and set up the network connection and stuff [2026-04-26T05:03:46Z] sincerely idk what the fuck people are doing with their phones [2026-04-26T05:03:51Z] like, to need more than this [2026-04-26T05:03:54Z] to need even this [2026-04-26T05:04:14Z] who knows [2026-04-26T05:04:28Z] i can't use a dumb phone though [2026-04-26T05:04:33Z] i'm content with my rinky dink little 4gb imx8mq laptop and my soon to be had 512mb handheld [2026-04-26T05:05:01Z] i'm waiting to see what the sharpikeebo situation is before i order one tho. tbh i don't know if i like their keyboard [2026-04-26T05:06:19Z] idk if i could deal with 512mb [2026-04-26T05:06:27Z] i have 256gb on my phone and it's pissing me off [2026-04-26T05:06:42Z] i need to just get a tangara or an ipod classic at some point to put my flacs on [2026-04-26T05:06:47Z] or replace the phone with one that has a microsd slot [2026-04-26T05:06:55Z] tangara is pretty sweet [2026-04-26T05:07:07Z] i've been thinking of commissioning a machine shop to mill an anodised aluminium case formine [2026-04-26T05:07:12Z] to replace the polycarbonate one [2026-04-26T05:07:14Z] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/pdx234/ [2026-04-26T05:07:17Z] i want this [2026-04-26T05:07:29Z] >microsd slot >headphone jack >IR blaster so i can fuck with peoples shit [2026-04-26T05:07:55Z] >official lineage support which is the only mobile ROM i care to use [2026-04-26T05:08:01Z] bro why do phones have almost as much memory as gaming desktops [2026-04-26T05:08:06Z] what the fuck is 2026 [2026-04-26T05:08:13Z] idk mine has 12gb [2026-04-26T05:08:14Z] why are people like this [2026-04-26T05:08:19Z] during normal usage ive never seen it go over 3gb [2026-04-26T05:08:23Z] and like 90% of that is cache [2026-04-26T05:09:52Z] though soon that may change [2026-04-26T05:10:07Z] apparently winlator has become really fucking good so i can run x86 games on my phone with proton [2026-04-26T05:10:31Z] yeah jit recompilers are crazy these days [2026-04-26T05:10:40Z] did you see that youtube video from a while back showing witcher 3 on riscv [2026-04-26T05:10:45Z] yeah i did [2026-04-26T05:10:48Z] pretty nuts [2026-04-26T05:11:01Z] yeah [2026-04-26T05:11:03Z] same guy got uh [2026-04-26T05:11:05Z] hades i think [2026-04-26T05:11:11Z] to run at a pretty playable framerate [2026-04-26T05:11:11Z] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETYDgKz4jBQ [2026-04-26T05:11:16Z] probably comparable to a console experience [2026-04-26T05:11:16Z] this is just ridiculous [2026-04-26T05:11:27Z] we've had people showing up in the iw4x discord asking us for support with running the game on their phones [2026-04-26T05:11:31Z] which is what made me start looking into this [2026-04-26T05:11:59Z] ngl i don't know why people want to do things on phones [2026-04-26T05:12:09Z] so im thinking i could 3d print a bracket to mount my phone to my xbox controller [2026-04-26T05:12:09Z] phones have terrible human interface devices [2026-04-26T05:12:28Z] or rather have someone else 3d print it [2026-04-26T05:12:37Z] i know a guy with a printer who will print whatever i send him so i can kinda just make shit [2026-04-26T05:13:41Z] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=191i3wRmQKE [2026-04-26T05:13:42Z] dude what the fuck [2026-04-26T05:14:32Z] okay that's pretty cool actually [2026-04-26T05:14:38Z] i can appreciate that [2026-04-26T05:14:45Z] the skyrim one [2026-04-26T05:14:52Z] seriously hear me out [2026-04-26T05:15:03Z] 3d printed bracket for my xbox controller wirelessly paired to my phone which is mounted on the controller [2026-04-26T05:15:09Z] i buy nothing and create a mobile gaming device [2026-04-26T05:16:04Z] oh my GOD he uploaded a video of dark souls 2 running like this [2026-04-26T05:16:08Z] that's like one of my favorite games [2026-04-26T12:29:00Z] kris_: I suppose youre right about that. but people should ask themselves some questions before doing this. but oh well.. [2026-04-26T12:29:42Z] zamn those emulators are game changing [2026-04-26T12:30:05Z] this is gonna make unused phones so much more useful [2026-04-26T12:32:10Z] kris_: I have a bracket for my ps5 controller, so that I can mount my phone on top of my ps5 controller, and play retro games. pretty neat. I do wish the screen was a tad bit taller though. the aspect ratio is pretty terrible tbh [2026-04-26T12:32:28Z] also also, they run cyberpunk on phones now too. nothing is off the limit now it seems [2026-04-26T12:32:44Z] s/off the limit/off the table/ [2026-04-26T13:20:05Z] dery: most phones today can run atleast older consoles. my pixel 6a should probably be able to run some switch games even, although som lighter ones. I couldnt quite run mario kart on switch though, lacked any decent fps.. [2026-04-26T14:11:23Z] awesome [2026-04-26T14:21:59Z] yeah its pretty awesome now. and it seems to get better and better every day. rocknix is now also a thing, so users can run steamOS ARM on android handhelds now. its still in an early stage though, but it works. retrogamecorps made a video about it recently [2026-04-26T14:25:56Z] holy macaroni I had no idea [2026-04-26T14:28:43Z] well now you know :D [2026-04-26T14:28:57Z] just looked it up, how does that work? [2026-04-26T14:29:04Z] it looks like a distro for handleds [2026-04-26T14:29:07Z] btw thank you for letting me know [2026-04-26T15:20:23Z] you install it onto the internal storage, replacing android. atleast thats how I think it works [2026-04-26T15:20:25Z] yw [2026-04-26T15:25:21Z] wonder what valves endgame is here [2026-04-26T15:25:31Z] idk why they wouldn't just use the new intel chips [2026-04-26T15:26:19Z] maybe they dont wanna deal with intel things [2026-04-26T15:26:45Z] or amd for that matter, seeing as they went with ARM [2026-04-26T15:27:49Z] ARM is also gaining a lot of traction. with apple and their macbooks using arm, and being very perforant, while also having amazing batterylife. phones are getting beefier than ever. I suppose it just makes sense perhaps? [2026-04-26T15:29:37Z] idk these aren't really exclusive to arm [2026-04-26T15:29:55Z] intel has kind of proven that with their recent mobile chips [2026-04-26T15:30:14Z] but it is valve and they like to use unusual things [2026-04-26T15:30:40Z] they sure did. [2026-04-26T15:32:24Z] i have a bit of a bias though to be completely honest, i try my best to avoid buying non intel cpus [2026-04-26T15:32:47Z] AMD cpus have been horrendously unreliable for me for actually forever and there are zero good desktop arm chips [2026-04-26T15:34:29Z] the desktop ARM market is somewhat lacking in some areas, but Im pretty sure itll get better over the years, as ARM get even more traction, and x86 gets overturned by ARM. assuming that does actully happen though [2026-04-26T15:34:49Z] seeing as more and more vendors go for ARM, it seems like this is the way things are moving [2026-04-26T15:35:23Z] idk i guess we'll see [2026-04-26T15:35:29Z] yep [2026-04-26T15:35:50Z] one of my discord frends got a 6600xt working on her rpi [2026-04-26T15:36:01Z] proceeded to use it for gaming [2026-04-26T15:36:35Z] sick. I saw jeff gerling also made some video about using an external gpu on a pi. I didnt watch it, I just saw the title and thumbnail. [2026-04-26T15:36:44Z] nevertheless, that sounds really cool [2026-04-26T15:36:52Z] jeff is always doing something really interesting [2026-04-26T15:37:05Z] it's also surprising to see him just like reply to people if they ping him in the LTT discord server [2026-04-26T15:37:09Z] in the #linux chat [2026-04-26T15:39:02Z] yeah, I think his stuff is generally interesting too. [2026-04-26T15:39:13Z] really? one wouldve think that his too busy for that [2026-04-26T15:39:15Z] i liked his videos on the meshtastic stuff [2026-04-26T15:39:48Z] speaking of videos, i really need to get to editing mine [2026-04-26T15:40:02Z] yeah. sometimes I wouldve loved if there were move community for that stuff locally, but anything linux or pc related is few and far between here.. [2026-04-26T15:40:09Z] what are your video about this time? [2026-04-26T15:40:21Z] i recorded like 8hrs of footage for a few things [2026-04-26T15:40:37Z] the ps3 mod and also an interesting little thin client i got that i think i mentioned in here [2026-04-26T15:40:44Z] using it as a vpn gateway for my freebsd box running game servers [2026-04-26T15:40:52Z] to keep the wireguard connection to airvpn off of the game host to not waste cpu [2026-04-26T15:40:55Z] nice [2026-04-26T15:41:42Z] i still have some stuff i need to do with the ps3 [2026-04-26T15:42:02Z] i finished my mod, downloaded a ton of games, overclocked the snot out of it, got my xbox controller working on it, havent touched it since [2026-04-26T15:42:34Z] i need to install petitboot and install freebsd on it [2026-04-26T15:42:57Z] as an experiment i intend on throwing it on a vlan and hosting a minecraft server on it and getting as many of my friends as i can to join to see what it'll handle [2026-04-26T15:43:43Z] the only other OS there really is to use on the ps3 without much hassle is gentoo and i don't exactly feel like doing that on a ps3, too much effort [2026-04-26T15:43:47Z] freebsd officially supports it [2026-04-26T15:43:49Z] hm, I see. I downloaded a handfull of ps3 games recently too. although I was gong to emulate them on my desktop though. [2026-04-26T15:44:09Z] gentoo on ps3 sounds awefull lol [2026-04-26T15:44:19Z] all that time compiling and slow hardware [2026-04-26T15:44:41Z] yeah im guessing probably 3-4 days of compiling [2026-04-26T15:45:00Z] one of my friends set up cross compiling for it and apparently it made it worse [2026-04-26T15:45:18Z] or rather, distcc [2026-04-26T15:45:21Z] * [2026-04-26T16:12:20Z] thats quite a lot lol [2026-04-26T16:12:26Z] thats pretty ironic if you ask me [2026-04-26T16:13:06Z] not really worth doing when i can just install freebsd normally [2026-04-26T16:13:41Z] doesnt freebsd compile everything from source too? or are you using a binary repo? [2026-04-26T16:13:56Z] freebsd is binary first [2026-04-26T16:14:04Z] you can pull the ports repo and just cd into whatever and run make though [2026-04-26T16:14:09Z] if you wnat [2026-04-26T16:14:16Z] everything compiles by just running make, it's pretty cute [2026-04-26T16:14:19Z] really? I thought bsd's were from source-first [2026-04-26T16:14:25Z] nah all of them are binary first [2026-04-26T16:14:35Z] out of the big 3 anyway [2026-04-26T16:14:50Z] what? thats not the impression I get from reading the pkgsrc docs though [2026-04-26T16:15:18Z] well, i've used netbsd in a really limited amount but ive always just used the pkgin package manager and pulled binaries off of repos [2026-04-26T16:15:25Z] same way you would on whatever binary linux distro [2026-04-26T16:15:37Z] ive never built anything from source on any of the 3 main bsds [2026-04-26T16:16:09Z] that would make them a non starter in my eyes given the types of things i generally use the bsds for [2026-04-26T16:16:17Z] like my router running openbsd, i dont want to compile shit on my router [2026-04-26T16:16:26Z] hm, maybe it was configured differently than what I did when I tried it on oasis [2026-04-26T16:16:34Z] oasis isnt netbsd [2026-04-26T16:16:54Z] https://pkgin.net/ [2026-04-26T16:16:59Z] it gives you an option to install this [2026-04-26T16:17:42Z] i guess there are some people out there running netbsd entirely from source but ive never seen it [2026-04-26T16:17:49Z] oasis recommends pkgsrc as first class external package managment system though. but no, its not bsd [2026-04-26T16:18:06Z] i dont think any of my netbsd installs have even had pkgsrc [2026-04-26T16:18:07Z] no point [2026-04-26T16:18:22Z] im not really 100% sure though, i didn't find anything to use netbsd for [2026-04-26T16:18:25Z] oh well. no matter [2026-04-26T16:20:48Z] i dont really feel like doing shit right now so i might just play a game of counterstrike [2026-04-26T16:20:55Z] i feel really lazy today [2026-04-26T16:21:54Z] which CS are you playing? GO? [2026-04-26T16:22:05Z] or whats its called. global offence or something? [2026-04-26T16:22:17Z] 2 [2026-04-26T16:22:20Z] the newest [2026-04-26T16:22:24Z] ah, right [2026-04-26T16:22:42Z] did you get to try insurgency? [2026-04-26T16:22:55Z] i didn't, i havent really played any games since we spoke about that [2026-04-26T16:23:10Z] ah, I see [2026-04-26T16:24:11Z] unfortunately i wont be able to host minecraft on my freebsd box, i cant recall if i mentioned this in here or not [2026-04-26T16:24:31Z] tldr im routing through airvpn because it's the only thing i really have to route through [2026-04-26T16:24:40Z] they block airvpn for the auth servers so nobody can connect to my server [2026-04-26T16:24:40Z] I dont belive you did. I dont recall. [2026-04-26T16:24:47Z] oh [2026-04-26T16:24:55Z] its extremely fucking lame [2026-04-26T16:25:02Z] ineed [2026-04-26T16:25:07Z] indeed [2026-04-26T16:25:15Z] cant you just use another vpn insted? [2026-04-26T16:25:24Z] from what ive gathered all are blocked [2026-04-26T16:25:29Z] once upon a time minecraft didnt suck [2026-04-26T16:26:06Z] however, i was browsing the airvpn forums and some users said this wasnt an issue with older versions [2026-04-26T16:26:12Z] I see. well some providers are terrible this way. ive heard people getting their accounts deleted on snapchat too if they used vpns lol [2026-04-26T16:26:14Z] so ill try minecraft 1.12.2, if i can host that it's fine [2026-04-26T16:26:24Z] thats the last version i personally care to play [2026-04-26T16:26:30Z] i tried latest [2026-04-26T16:26:31Z] prior [2026-04-26T16:27:01Z] i can still host the other things i planned on hosting though, mainly iw4x [2026-04-26T16:30:39Z] what was iw4x again? I forgot [2026-04-26T16:31:03Z] one of the projects im involved in, patches the og 2009 cod mw2 to be safe to play on pc and adds mod support [2026-04-26T16:31:06Z] and the ability for people to host their own servers [2026-04-26T16:31:09Z] https://iw4x.io/ [2026-04-26T16:31:14Z] aah, yeah, now I remember [2026-04-26T16:32:30Z] i might also host wolfenstein enemy territory via etlegacy [2026-04-26T16:32:40Z] and apparently supertuxkart has server stuff so maybe that [2026-04-26T16:32:50Z] initially my idea was server hosting for games that don't suck [2026-04-26T16:32:53Z] as in respect their players [2026-04-26T16:32:57Z] nice [2026-04-26T16:33:39Z] supertuxkart was even packaged under kiss-games. but the maintainer just up and vanished. dunno where she went. her github has been dead ever since [2026-04-26T16:34:48Z] she even had retroarch packaged, along with lots of libretro cores, and a lot of other cool stuff [2026-04-26T16:34:54Z] was it mae [2026-04-26T16:35:05Z] out of curiosity [2026-04-26T16:35:11Z] no, it was sd.. hold on [2026-04-26T16:35:20Z] ah nvm [2026-04-26T16:35:54Z] https://github.com/sdsddsd1/kiss-games [2026-04-26T16:36:13Z] here name was really stupid to remember at the top of my head [2026-04-26T16:36:18Z] this is a lot of stuff [2026-04-26T16:36:37Z] indeed it is. had to take a lot of time to get everything going [2026-04-26T16:37:39Z] i wonder if openttd has server stuff [2026-04-26T16:37:40Z] ive been curious about reviving some of it, but eh... compiling everything needed for retroarch when I can just use conty.sh instead. same with the rest of the stuff too really. im guessing more or less everything here can be found in the arch repos, or aur, which in turn can then be accessable through conty [2026-04-26T16:37:54Z] I dunno [2026-04-26T16:38:22Z] apparently it does [2026-04-26T16:39:08Z] you can just openttd -D [2026-04-26T16:39:12Z] (dedicated server) [2026-04-26T16:39:34Z] idk theres a lot of things i can host, i have hardware [2026-04-26T16:39:49Z] as long as itll run on freebsd and doesnt disrespect the shit out of its users (like minecraft) im down [2026-04-26T16:53:13Z] could host an invidious instance though [2026-04-26T16:53:29Z] dunno if it runs on freebsd though [2026-04-26T17:18:43Z] doesnt run on much of anything because they wrote it in crystal [2026-04-26T17:23:00Z] thats a disapointment to say the least.... [2026-04-26T17:26:42Z] not that crystal isnt portable its just not packaged or built for anything [2026-04-26T17:26:44Z] its too niche [2026-04-26T17:26:51Z] arch has it but thats the only thing ive seen that does [2026-04-26T17:27:07Z] personally id have chosen erlang for this probably [2026-04-26T17:31:27Z] oh openttd isnt what i thought it was [2026-04-26T17:31:32Z] i thought it was a tower defense game [2026-04-26T17:33:08Z] yeah, one wouldve thought they wrote it in something more widely adopted instead.. [2026-04-26T20:26:34Z] is what it is [2026-04-26T20:26:38Z] apparently yt-dlp has a webui [2026-04-26T20:26:50Z] and supposedly it supports streaming [2026-04-26T21:10:24Z] hey, i did an experiment a few months ago and bootstrapped kiss linux from live-bootstrap, akin to how guix did it: https://codeberg.org/leanix/bootstrap/releases [2026-04-26T21:11:54Z] now i turned it into a "starter" of some sort for a linux distro project i'm working on with other ppl (for now i did it mostly alone but i wasn't there at the beginning) https://forge.starlightnet.work/stilic/StarlightOS [2026-04-26T21:45:07Z] kris_: youre right. wait, does it? I have to check that out lol [2026-04-26T21:49:19Z] stilic: is the bootstrap thing similarly to bootstrapable or what its called? I think gnuix uses it or something, to build gcc just from some teeny tiny asm code, iirc [2026-04-26T21:50:12Z] mes is what I was refering to. I just forgot the name [2026-04-26T21:50:14Z] sad_plan: i think live-bootstrap is used in guix but if they did their own thing, it's basically the same [2026-04-26T21:50:20Z] https://www.gnu.org/software/mes [2026-04-26T21:50:25Z] hm, neat [2026-04-26T21:50:41Z] "sh: /usr/bin/autoreconf: /usr/sbin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" auto*hell [2026-04-26T21:51:21Z] thanks erofs-utils for being the only broken package out of everyone [2026-04-26T21:51:52Z] I tried it once, because I wanted to see if I could do it, but i got some errors early on, and just.. didnt bother with it. I kinda wanted to script it though, so I could script the whole chain, and build gcc 4.6, and then add tools along the way untill you have a reproducable system [2026-04-26T21:52:10Z] not really familiar with erofs. but jedavies seems to use it on his new project. happy to see some new ideas though [2026-04-26T21:53:12Z] sad_plan: yeah, the whole infra is quite fragile but i have gotten around that [2026-04-26T21:53:41Z] nice [2026-04-26T21:54:15Z] i remember someone asking about how to bootstrap 9front with existing binaries. they never answered his question. poor lad. [2026-04-26T21:54:40Z] sad [2026-04-26T21:55:58Z] yeah, i think the end goal was simply creating an iso, but the 9front community was rather unhelpfull. because binaries do exist. but what if they dont? [2026-04-26T21:59:42Z] yeah, that's the issue [2026-04-26T22:20:30Z] yeah