[2026-06-13T03:50:25Z] <midfavila> definitelynotkri kris_ no i'm not on oftc
[2026-06-13T05:17:58Z] <saravia> here is no place for emacsens? maybe for xemacs xD!!
[2026-06-13T05:18:21Z] <midfavila> we have emacs people in here 
[2026-06-13T05:18:33Z] <midfavila> everyone say hi to saravia from hyperbola
[2026-06-13T05:18:37Z] <midfavila> be nice or i'll bully you
[2026-06-13T05:18:54Z] <saravia> :3
[2026-06-13T05:20:34Z] <midfavila> :33333
[2026-06-13T05:20:52Z] <saravia> for escape to the mouse... (but without block it)... and made you a complete keyboard stroker... → git clone http://saravia.org/type-to-move-cursor.git
[2026-06-13T05:21:00Z] <midfavila> in theory i'm a lisp guy (scheme specifically) but in practice i'm stuck with unix stuff so 
[2026-06-13T05:21:04Z] <midfavila> i'm looking at wily tbh
[2026-06-13T05:21:20Z] <saravia> :P
[2026-06-13T05:24:38Z] <saravia> a people that get work every day with lisp is a fourtune people, discover the limits of the all language programs and find the extra functionalitty
[2026-06-13T05:26:53Z] <midfavila> saravia: do you have a preferred implementation of lisp?
[2026-06-13T05:26:56Z] <midfavila> i'm a fan of s9fes
[2026-06-13T05:27:33Z] <saravia> ...mmm sound nice... and is a bsd extra permissive license?
[2026-06-13T05:28:30Z] <midfavila> i can't recall 
[2026-06-13T05:28:37Z] <saravia> if it not have blobs is a nice idea explore it... in my case i only test guile and compare it with gccgo and i take better gccgo for the conectivity task
[2026-06-13T05:29:16Z] <saravia> and midfavila why s9fes?
[2026-06-13T05:29:31Z] <saravia> it has a special feature?
[2026-06-13T05:29:34Z] <midfavila> https://t3x.org/s9fes/LICENSE.html
[2026-06-13T05:29:39Z] <midfavila> yesn't
[2026-06-13T05:29:51Z] <midfavila> s9fes is r4rs and has a complete set of libraries for programming on unix
[2026-06-13T05:29:53Z] <saravia> mmm... yes and not...
[2026-06-13T05:30:02Z] <midfavila> including curses, sockets, and its own custom object system
[2026-06-13T05:30:25Z] <midfavila> it also compiles and runs quite quickly 
[2026-06-13T05:55:13Z] <saravia> midfavila: o/ excuse i don't know what broke my emacs erc session on my vps U_u..
[2026-06-13T05:55:37Z] <midfavila> rip
[2026-06-13T05:59:48Z] <midfavila> saravia: no luck tonight?
[2026-06-13T06:00:35Z] <saravia> :P luck is my password : P
[2026-06-13T06:01:20Z] <saravia> i don't know if i get it, i see more light screen rather than tmux
[2026-06-13T06:02:06Z] <midfavila> more of a dtach type myself 
[2026-06-13T06:02:10Z] <midfavila> with mtm 
[2026-06-13T06:02:34Z] <saravia> midfavila: tell me something are you run sometimes google-chrome-stable?
[2026-06-13T06:02:40Z] <midfavila> no
[2026-06-13T06:02:47Z] <midfavila> i don't use any google software to my knowledge 
[2026-06-13T06:03:01Z] <saravia> ...mmm luakit?
[2026-06-13T06:03:03Z] <midfavila> unless like, a single library slipped in somewhere and i forgot about it
[2026-06-13T06:03:04Z] <midfavila> no
[2026-06-13T06:03:11Z] <midfavila> i use links2 as my primary browser 
[2026-06-13T06:03:33Z] <saravia> mmmm i see you are superior to me U_u...
[2026-06-13T06:03:46Z] <midfavila> when strictly necessary i run librefox, but i'm hoping to modify WPEWebkit's Cog browser to be somewhat usable as a desktop browser, and then i can run that from inside a container 
[2026-06-13T06:03:51Z] <midfavila> nah nobody is superior to anyone = w=
[2026-06-13T06:04:35Z] <saravia> :D thank you for remember it me
[2026-06-13T06:05:21Z] <saravia> i think i get it... vps@tty session no more broke
[2026-06-13T06:06:01Z] <saravia> midfavila: i think you run plan9
[2026-06-13T06:06:12Z] <midfavila> slackware atm actually 
[2026-06-13T06:06:18Z] <midfavila> but usually i have my own distro i use
[2026-06-13T06:06:47Z] <saravia> and you own distro has dbus?
[2026-06-13T06:06:51Z] <midfavila> no
[2026-06-13T06:07:12Z] <midfavila> it was originally based on kiss and inherits its basic design philosophy more or less
[2026-06-13T06:07:12Z] <saravia> you are a greater architect
[2026-06-13T06:07:19Z] <midfavila> no lol i'm just picky 
[2026-06-13T06:08:05Z] <saravia> are you past to much time exploring commands? or you have a nice teacher?
[2026-06-13T06:08:47Z] <midfavila> i think a little bit of both. i've been using linux in some fashion as my main OS for about a decade, and about half of that has been spent in and around kisslinux and similar communities 
[2026-06-13T06:09:09Z] <midfavila> lots of knowledgeable folks with different specialties to learn from 
[2026-06-13T06:09:26Z] <saravia> midfavila: and after a decade you get build you own distro? nice im near to a decade
[2026-06-13T06:10:08Z] <saravia> too... i have 9 years runing gnu+linux
[2026-06-13T06:10:18Z] <midfavila> well, i started working on my own fork of kiss a few years ago 
[2026-06-13T06:10:34Z] <midfavila> 2021-2022 i think is when i hard-forked the root filesystem and core repositories 
[2026-06-13T06:10:45Z] <midfavila> atm i'm rewriting everything to be independent of kiss 
[2026-06-13T06:11:08Z] <midfavila> the goal is to basically just have the entire package system be written in portable posix shell scripts and makefiles, with zero reliance on an outside package manager
[2026-06-13T06:11:18Z] <midfavila> everything should be freestanding 
[2026-06-13T06:11:56Z] <midfavila> all of the software i use is also written in fairly portable C. i have a couple of packages i use that are written in python or perl but i'm hoping to replace them at some point 
[2026-06-13T06:12:44Z] <saravia> on posix shell scripts what commands are... for example?
[2026-06-13T06:13:16Z] <midfavila> well, the commands are generally the same on every unix machine. it's just what flags are available and what the grammar of your interpreter is 
[2026-06-13T06:13:34Z] <midfavila> i'm not familiar with bash or fish or anything else so i can't really explain the difference between, say, bash and posix shell 
[2026-06-13T06:13:52Z] <midfavila> but i would highly recommend you read the pure sh bible by the creator of kiss linux, dylan araps, on github
[2026-06-13T06:14:01Z] <midfavila> he's quite the expert when it comes to shell 
[2026-06-13T06:14:16Z] <saravia> sh bible is a book?
[2026-06-13T06:14:19Z] <midfavila> yes
[2026-06-13T06:14:57Z] <saravia> nice... the lask week i was reading a lot with my slop llm script Libros-system-es-en-de...
[2026-06-13T06:15:28Z] <midfavila> tsk tsk tsk 
[2026-06-13T06:15:35Z] <midfavila> i didn't think hyperbola was a slopshop :P 
[2026-06-13T06:15:36Z] <saravia> U_u... im not a good reader but this slop jump me into books U_u..
[2026-06-13T06:15:48Z] <midfavila> oh, i wouldn't worry about it
[2026-06-13T06:15:56Z] <saravia> hyperbola is a slop llm hater U_u......
[2026-06-13T06:16:05Z] <midfavila> best to just read as much as you can. you'll get better with time. 
[2026-06-13T11:09:48Z] <definitelynotkri> midfavila: dang, ill figure something out i guess i might have to run my bouncer through tor or something
[2026-06-13T11:10:16Z] <definitelynotkri> i don't want to deal with setting that up but fuck me i guess
[2026-06-13T16:25:04Z] <midfavila> definitelynotkri why are you dropping libera lol
[2026-06-13T19:43:09Z] <dery> midfavila: kris' vpn got banned
[2026-06-13T19:59:44Z] <midfavila> wuh
[2026-06-13T19:59:51Z] <midfavila> kris what'd you do 
[2026-06-13T19:59:53Z] <midfavila> >:O
[2026-06-13T20:00:04Z] <midfavila> did you steal everyone's nuggs or something
[2026-06-13T20:03:01Z] <dery> nothing
[2026-06-13T20:03:12Z] <dery> vpn IPs are shared I think
[2026-06-13T20:03:32Z] <dery> libera said that they've seen abuse and blocked SASL logins from there, which doesn't honestly make much sense
[2026-06-13T20:14:59Z] <midfavila> aah
[2026-06-13T21:52:44Z] <definitelynotkri> midfavila: i didnt do anything, they blanket banned airvpn for like questionable reasons imo
[2026-06-13T21:53:08Z] <definitelynotkri> so im not banned i just consider it a ban
[2026-06-13T21:53:52Z] <definitelynotkri> im trying to figure out what to do to get back on here, soju doesnt have a "sasl only or fail" option so the cloak can infact just eat shit
[2026-06-13T21:54:33Z] <definitelynotkri> i was asking if you're on oftc because that's still hooked up to my stuff because they dont block vpns whatsoever
[2026-06-13T21:55:00Z] <definitelynotkri> for the meantime i mean until i figure something out that im happy with