[2026-07-08T16:06:58Z] i had a feeling that my wifi card for my desktop would give me more or less no isues. but iwlwifi just wont work for me. [2026-07-08T16:07:02Z] * sad_plan sobs [2026-07-08T16:07:49Z] for some reason, my kernel just shits on the ucode i include, thus no wifi for me [2026-07-08T16:17:38Z] sad_plan rookie mistake [2026-07-08T16:17:42Z] should have gotten an ath9k [2026-07-08T16:18:33Z] i actually have that on my laptop [2026-07-08T16:19:01Z] but im pretty sure iwlwifi is somehat common, if not even somewhat recommended. iirc, you can even get it on the mnt reform now too [2026-07-08T16:19:09Z] so linux support, should be rather good [2026-07-08T16:32:42Z] yah but ath9k is flawless [2026-07-08T16:33:53Z] that might be the case. I dont recall having much issues outside my own selfmade issues with regards to ath9k [2026-07-08T17:39:46Z] gonna end up spending more money on parts for my t480 than i paid for the t480 itself [2026-07-08T17:42:03Z] lol, what parts are you getting for it? [2026-07-08T17:43:11Z] looking at getting a new display panel, more batteries, a bottom panel [2026-07-08T17:43:23Z] and i'm consideirng librebooting it but the stuff i need to do that is cheap [2026-07-08T17:43:31Z] nice [2026-07-08T17:43:44Z] the display in it right now is covered in pressure marks and has kinda shitty colors os [2026-07-08T17:43:46Z] so* [2026-07-08T17:43:52Z] why not coreboot? youre pretty adamant about security. and.. well libreboot isnt exacly that [2026-07-08T17:43:54Z] oh [2026-07-08T17:44:15Z] libreboot isn't that? [2026-07-08T17:45:11Z] batteries are pretty cheap on aliexpress [2026-07-08T17:51:31Z] i wonder how difficult it would be to recell the external 72wh t480 battery i already have [2026-07-08T17:52:02Z] its only focused on being libre. atleast thats my understnading of it. but feel free to correct me. [2026-07-08T17:52:08Z] probably not too bad I suppose [2026-07-08T17:52:34Z] i mean, libreboot is just an automated build system for coreboot [2026-07-08T17:52:58Z] it adds a few features my security-rotted brain appreciates, such as genuine actual full disk encryption [2026-07-08T17:53:11Z] because you can just put grub on the motherboard and have it unlock the drive [2026-07-08T17:53:23Z] so there *is no* unencrypted bootloader or anything that would be otherwise protected by secure boot [2026-07-08T17:53:44Z] at which point it really becomes a case of glitter and nail polish lol [2026-07-08T17:55:12Z] my qualms with libreboot prior were primarily not trusting its lead developer [2026-07-08T17:55:31Z] but it's mostly just a shell script, i'll pull it and audit it and just run diffs in the future [2026-07-08T17:58:37Z] hm, I see [2026-07-08T17:58:37Z] well id LIKE to buy batteries but aliexpress' website is just nonfunctional [2026-07-08T17:58:47Z] lol [2026-07-08T18:00:27Z] i also need a soic8 clip for The Great Librebooting as well as probably another pi pico [2026-07-08T18:31:46Z] do you need that to actually flash libreboot? [2026-07-08T20:40:12Z] sad_plan: yes [2026-07-08T20:40:26Z] i need to get an sbc myself actually for flashing stuff [2026-07-08T20:54:18Z] I see [2026-07-08T20:55:16Z] also, I got iwlwifi working. I appearntly the drivers, or the kernel, im not sure, is picky about dirs. I had it under intel/iwlwifi/$driver, but appearntly, it needs to go two dirs up, inside the extra_firmare_dir [2026-07-08T21:06:59Z] midfavila: i wonder if its possible to just use a 3b [2026-07-08T21:07:03Z] i already have a 3b and a 3b+ [2026-07-08T21:07:51Z] ath9k is great can vouch [2026-07-08T21:09:46Z] shrub900: when will derive switch to aruu? the sbase/ubase/toybox mix thinky xplsh has a repo for. i think ive read derive was going to switch to it at some point [2026-07-08T21:09:53Z] what kind of speeds do you get with that [2026-07-08T21:10:22Z] are you talking to me or shrub kris? [2026-07-08T21:13:46Z] sad_plan: in the next release, hopefully. i'm ironing out all the small issues that it brings up because busybox is annoyingly functional [2026-07-08T21:14:13Z] i've been working on aruu too, i did the pager and diff/patch impl [2026-07-08T21:16:19Z] sad_plan: both of you really [2026-07-08T21:16:22Z] if you both have an ath9k [2026-07-08T21:16:42Z] I get it. busybox is really great in that regards. is suprisingly feature packed in such a small size. [2026-07-08T21:17:08Z] yeah, I saw xplsh mentioned you in the readme about yap. im reading your readme about it as we speak :p [2026-07-08T21:17:17Z] yap is great [2026-07-08T21:17:22Z] i can *generally* pull like 700mbps or so with my ax200 if i'm right on top of my AP [2026-07-08T21:17:26Z] would you believe less is 25k loc these days [2026-07-08T21:17:32Z] kris_: i have no clue really. never got to speed test it [2026-07-08T21:17:40Z] not suprised really lol [2026-07-08T21:17:45Z] kris_: im on horrific wifi right now and my download is like 20mpbs [2026-07-08T21:17:52Z] but am i crazy to say i dont really notice it that much [2026-07-08T21:17:53Z] everything gets so massivly big these days its atricous [2026-07-08T21:18:01Z] i mean ofc it's situational [2026-07-08T21:18:15Z] i used to use a raspberry pi 3b+ as a "DIY wifi card" and was only getting ~30mbps and it was mostly fine really [2026-07-08T21:18:40Z] sad_plan: i feel like less is more or less finished software but they have been pumping out new releases for agessss [2026-07-08T21:19:00Z] i switched all my machines to my little modernized yap, it has all the pager functionality i need atleast [2026-07-08T21:19:24Z] I occationally download things from fuckingfast hoster, and I get up to 60-70 or so mbps, which in of itself isnt that fast, but comparet to everything else, its.. fucking fast lol [2026-07-08T21:19:45Z] i'm considering going for 5gbps internet at the new house so [2026-07-08T21:19:52Z] obviously i dont expect to pull that over wifi [2026-07-08T21:19:59Z] but a gigabit would be nice [2026-07-08T21:20:08Z] shrub900: hm, maybe ill port it to oasis on my end and ditch less :p [2026-07-08T21:20:16Z] it is technically.. proprietry/source available due to having a tiny ass vague license written by a non lawyer in the decades before BSD/MIT etc became standardized. but i wrote to the original author to see if i can remedy that. i hope he will reply soon [2026-07-08T21:23:05Z] aah, yea reminds me of those pesky utils from the heirloom stuff. the licence is just... out of this world lol [2026-07-08T21:23:33Z] but for all intents and purposes i will just ignore it, i don't think it matters much [2026-07-08T21:23:42Z] but i think the gist of it boils down to source available, no distrebution. or something like that [2026-07-08T21:24:00Z] right. and even if it does, will they ever even notice? :p [2026-07-08T21:24:08Z] i'm not sure if that was the original intent or if they just didn't know how to word it [2026-07-08T21:24:29Z] that might be the case. they should just MIT it or something similar [2026-07-08T21:25:09Z] but from my non lawyer perspective i can look at the code but not modify it and distribute etc but not sell [2026-07-08T21:25:34Z] i think the intent was a non-commercial permissive ish license but they accidentally made it source available [2026-07-08T21:25:47Z] because they didnt mention allowing to modify [2026-07-08T21:26:39Z] lol, now its out there, which also means out of their control if you ask me :p [2026-07-08T21:28:53Z] Hi [2026-07-08T21:28:58Z] hi [2026-07-08T21:29:24Z] im confused on the kiss linux first step,do i do like arch chroot or normal chroot after i excrtacted it [2026-07-08T21:31:29Z] the first step in the install manual, is actually setting the variables, which to me never made much sense. in any case, arch chroot is just a script which automates the chroot steps for you. kiss-chroot does basically the same thing. just use kiss-chroot as stated in the install instructions [2026-07-08T21:32:23Z] hmmmm ok thank you [2026-07-08T21:33:34Z] wait do i go into /mnt or just kiss chroot on root? [2026-07-08T21:34:10Z] kiss-chroot needs an arguement. the argument is the path to the new root [2026-07-08T21:34:57Z] ohhh so like /mnt [2026-07-08T21:35:04Z] yes [2026-07-08T21:35:06Z] then i go into /mnt then extract on root [2026-07-08T21:35:10Z] hmmmmmmm ok [2026-07-08T21:35:39Z] you can extract straight to /mnt though, with -C flag if youre using tar [2026-07-08T21:40:32Z] oh [2026-07-08T21:40:41Z] waitg i thought you put it on root? [2026-07-08T21:40:45Z] im confused [2026-07-08T21:42:34Z] Hi guys [2026-07-08T21:42:43Z] I am going to install kiss Linux [2026-07-08T21:44:24Z] frost: if you unpack the tarball in the root of your existing system, you now have a borked system, probably [2026-07-08T21:44:44Z] please refer to the official docs on installing https://kisslinux.github.io/install [2026-07-08T21:44:52Z] its all there [2026-07-08T21:44:54Z] all the commands [2026-07-08T21:46:04Z] skip straigt to 003, and just use a newest release from https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/repo [2026-07-08T21:46:19Z] upstream kiss is dead, as dylan is busy farming [2026-07-08T21:46:24Z] and other stuff [2026-07-08T21:49:09Z] ohhh hmmm ok [2026-07-08T21:49:10Z] i meant skip step 001, as the variables are not usefull [2026-07-08T21:49:23Z] just curl the tarball, and verify the checksum [2026-07-08T21:49:25Z] unpack as root [2026-07-08T21:49:34Z] thats imprtant, it needs to be unpacked as root [2026-07-08T21:50:03Z] also skip 004, not needed, so unpack, verify checksum, unpack, chroot [2026-07-08T21:50:26Z] woah 4 steps [2026-07-08T21:50:29Z] hmmm ok [2026-07-08T21:51:34Z] theres 38 steps if you will. but not all of them are neccessary [2026-07-08T21:52:16Z] 013 is also optional. it has had some issues in the past, but i do think it works now? im not sure. havent used it in ages now [2026-07-08T21:52:39Z] which also includes 011 and 012 too now that I look at it [2026-07-08T21:53:15Z] alsos skip 014 untill later. get a bootable system first. as this wastes a lot of time, atleast if you have a weak machine [2026-07-08T21:55:39Z] hmmm ok im kinda confused on the curl if im tryna get the 24 one doi add the 24 one? [2026-07-08T21:56:30Z] like curl https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/repo/releases/kiss-chroot-24.12.18.tar.xz [2026-07-08T22:04:36Z] How does curl work? [2026-07-08T22:07:28Z] Ohh I get it [2026-07-08T22:24:40Z] Its saying kiss chroot not working