[2026-07-13T03:16:42Z] <dery> sad_plan: simply: `cat ball1.tar ball2.tar | tar -tv` gives only the first archive's of data
[2026-07-13T03:17:09Z] <dery> both on busybox tar and libarchive tar iirc
[2026-07-13T03:17:15Z] <dery> I thought I used gnu tar but nope, I use libarchive
[2026-07-13T03:18:10Z] <dery> still, looking online seems like this is pretty normal and most tar utilities have an option to ignore the EOF marker that each tar file does
[2026-07-13T10:33:20Z] <sad_plan> dery: is this an issue with other implementations aswell though?
[2026-07-13T10:38:55Z] <sad_plan> openbsd tar also seems to do this
[2026-07-13T10:39:36Z] <sad_plan> i was under the impression that the other way around ad issues. i.e. tar -cf . | gzip > $tarball
[2026-07-13T15:25:50Z] <dery> sad_plan: well libarchive and busybox seem to
[2026-07-13T15:26:01Z] <dery> gnu definitely as it has a dedicated flag
[2026-07-13T15:26:48Z] <dery> I don't have it at hand tho so I can't say it for sure
[2026-07-13T15:26:56Z] <dery> that said, definitely not portable behavior I can trust
[2026-07-13T16:30:36Z] <sad_plan> im not sure I understand the issue here. kiss doesnt use cat $tarball | tar -vt. so whats the issue here really?
[2026-07-13T17:00:51Z] <shrub900> is doing cat on a tarball really a good idea lol
[2026-07-13T18:29:35Z] <dery> sad_plan: no it doesn't
[2026-07-13T18:29:43Z] <dery> it's just an annoying thing I found
[2026-07-13T18:29:52Z] <dery> shrub900: tar is a streaming format. I'd say so
[2026-07-13T18:30:01Z] <sad_plan> I see. I thought you were trying to fix something related to kiss lol
[2026-07-13T18:30:12Z] <dery> my bad xD
[2026-07-13T18:30:29Z] <dery> my idea was to create a "chroot" tar without remaking the whole thing 
[2026-07-13T18:30:31Z] <dery> for the sandbox thing
[2026-07-13T18:30:37Z] <dery> I got a decent bootstrap script up
[2026-07-13T18:31:02Z] <dery> it's a bit of a bummer personally as busybox tar doesn't have a way to make an "anonymous" tar image
[2026-07-13T18:31:38Z] <dery> I could build that in the sandbox but eh. It's quite irrelevant for building in a sandbox but I might extend the thing for release purposes or who knows
[2026-07-13T18:31:58Z] <dery> it's *very* comfy to build complex package trees without having to install stuff in the root and/or authenticating every time with doas