[2026-08-19T00:01:30Z] <kris_> yeah tornadoes suck
[2026-08-19T14:56:57Z] <kris_> i believe europe called this one the final countdown
[2026-08-19T14:57:07Z] <kris_> (i am working on getting my distro migrated to s6)
[2026-08-19T15:25:43Z] <stilic> kris_: what do you think of nitro?
[2026-08-19T15:26:44Z] <kris_> stilic: seems fine but i saw no mention of dependency support and that's kind of the main problem i'm trying to solve for myself
[2026-08-19T15:27:10Z] <kris_> it would be silly for me to comment too much on it since i've not really looked at it too much
[2026-08-19T15:27:10Z] <stilic> kris_: fair
[2026-08-19T15:27:21Z] <kris_> i can tell you what i think of s6 though!
[2026-08-19T15:27:27Z] <kris_> my response to this is "holy fuck."
[2026-08-19T15:27:29Z] <stilic> i run busybox's runit like everyone else rn
[2026-08-19T15:27:30Z] <kris_> in a scared way
[2026-08-19T15:27:50Z] <kris_> it's just really fucking complex, not conceptually just like a bit wild to implement
[2026-08-19T15:28:08Z] <stilic> i want to switch to nitro since i'm fine with runit's philosophy
[2026-08-19T15:28:34Z] <stilic> at worst i could add dependency support since nitro is pretty much scriptable
[2026-08-19T15:28:52Z] <kris_> s6 has a lot of really nice utilities alongside it, i'm not solving *only* that for myself by doing this
[2026-08-19T15:29:00Z] <kris_> to be clear, my distro does *not* exist for the sake of minimalism
[2026-08-19T15:29:07Z] <kris_> that just tends to be a side effect of using decent software
[2026-08-19T15:29:34Z] <kris_> and then after this i need to unlazy and fix bugs with bpm
[2026-08-19T15:30:08Z] <kris_> bugs that don't apply to me because i don't make use of the alternatives system myself really, my friend found some bugs with that when she swapped from busybox to chimera-utils
[2026-08-19T15:30:41Z] <kris_> stilic: also, if you're cool with runit why not just keep using it
[2026-08-19T15:30:52Z] <kris_> is there something nitro really adds
[2026-08-19T15:38:44Z] <stilic> kris_: it adds support for readiness notification, keeps all state in ram instead of the filesystem and has overall a more modern codebase
[2026-08-19T15:38:58Z] <stilic> https://github.com/leahneukirchen/nitro#benefits-over-other-systems
[2026-08-19T15:40:13Z] <kris_> oh interesting, i didn't know it had readiness notifs
[2026-08-19T15:46:23Z] <stilic> dinit and s6 are really cool but a bit too complex for my taste
[2026-08-19T15:57:25Z] <kris_> they aren't really in the same category to me
[2026-08-19T15:57:37Z] <kris_> i don't like declarative services, s6 lets me keep just executing shell scripts just with some extra optional shit around that 
[2026-08-19T19:03:19Z] <stilic> i mean 
[2026-08-19T19:03:26Z] <stilic> dinit is not too complex
[2026-08-19T19:03:43Z] <stilic> but nowadays i prefer runit-like inits
[2026-08-19T22:23:15Z] <kris_> s6 certainly is something
[2026-08-19T22:23:23Z] <kris_> ive got my stuff booting and running with it