[2026-09-02T06:22:48Z] Hello [2026-09-02T06:55:19Z] holy fuck. yesterday my goverment decicded to increase some taxes on gas and diesel. the prices just went up by.. ~30% [2026-09-02T06:55:49Z] midfavila: be angry about this for me. capitalism or something [2026-09-02T06:56:33Z] I however, went over to sweden, and tanked up my car for less than what it was before before the price increase [2026-09-02T06:57:03Z] also, i know this will have a massive ripple effect on food prices and so much more. not looking forward to that price increase aswell [2026-09-02T06:58:20Z] Ok good choice for you [2026-09-02T07:01:39Z] sad_plan: that is fucked [2026-09-02T07:02:11Z] I don't think the swedes will like it either xd [2026-09-02T07:06:13Z] the swedes will love it, because now norwegians will go to sweden to shop more instead. it was like this around covid too, but after a while, the prices fortunatly wwent down again. the local shops here even took steps to counter it, because the borders were closed aswell, so people would still be able to afford food. it seems like many of the politicians are even mad about this now too [2026-09-02T07:06:28Z] so we'll see how long this lasts before the prices are pushed back down again. [2026-09-02T07:07:05Z] fortunatly for me, I live close to the border, so I can just travel across the border and fill up the car, and purchase other goods that are cheaper in sweden :D [2026-09-02T08:07:05Z] doesn't Norway have like the largest uneeded oil reserves in the world? like all the reservers and internation investments come from oil [2026-09-02T08:07:24Z] pardon my spelling [2026-09-02T08:20:49Z] angerisagift: yeah, we have lots of oil, but to me, it kinda seems like theyre reluctant to touch it. atleast too much. [2026-09-02T08:21:52Z] theyve also been lobbying for use of electric vehicles too, so i know some parties are really pushing to get rid of all fossil fuel vehicles across the board. our local busses now run electic [2026-09-02T08:22:23Z] some does run on gas. not sure if its some kind of propane or what it is, but its not gasoline/diesel anymore for most of it [2026-09-02T08:22:32Z] most is electric by now though [2026-09-02T09:47:29Z] sad_plan: why would i be angry about a government disincentivising fossil fuel usage [2026-09-02T09:47:32Z] :3 [2026-09-02T09:47:33Z] :3ccc [2026-09-02T09:47:36Z] :3ccccccccc [2026-09-02T09:47:40Z] get a bike nerdddd [2026-09-02T09:47:59Z] but yeah idk it's annoying that national governments try to penalise regular people for the actions of the powerful. [2026-09-02T09:48:16Z] also, angerisagift, venezuela has the largest confirmed stores of oil afaik [2026-09-02T09:49:13Z] imho the reason america is lashing out and threatening western hemisphere countries is because the yankee federal government knows that the USD isn't a viable reserve currency any more and they need to secure the resources required for their own long-term survival through brute force [2026-09-02T09:49:28Z] i wouldn't be surprised if the USA tried to go to war against china using taiwan as a proxy and excuse [2026-09-02T09:49:45Z] of course, china would fucking steamroll america [2026-09-02T09:50:19Z] but it would still be an unnecessary and deeply harmful conflict started because of imperial hubris [2026-09-02T09:59:46Z] midfavila: because it affects everyone, at every turn almost. every damn goods that is transported using trucks, or using any kind of fossil fuel, would get more expensive, this is then pushed down the chain to the enduser - you and me, and everyone else. so food gets more expensive, clothes, your bikeparts, and so on and so forth. but yeah, this instance doesnt affect you initially, unless you [2026-09-02T09:59:48Z] order things specifically from norway I suppose [2026-09-02T10:01:03Z] but yeah, getting a bike would surely but less of a strain on my wallet when it comes to gassprices, appart from the one-time cost of getting a proper bike. but winter is comming soon, and here its terribly wet for the next 6 months more or less [2026-09-02T10:02:14Z] s/surely but/surely put/ [2026-09-02T11:02:01Z] sad_plan: that's actually sort of not the case [2026-09-02T11:02:18Z] most goods are able to leverage economics of scale to average out the cost of fuel [2026-09-02T11:02:44Z] pass-through on fuel prices doesn't have as much of an effect on simple consumer goods [2026-09-02T11:35:12Z] maybe thats the case in canada or US, but not here. we felt the effect of it during covid when transport prices increased, and food prices followed soon after. I dont recall if other goods were initallly affected by this, as I dont really buy much stuff in general, but seeing as it uses the same transport, it should, atleast in theory be affected similarly [2026-09-02T17:47:11Z] sad_plan: most likely merchants taking the opportunity to price-gouge