[2026-09-23T06:55:30Z] <Vova> sad_plan: I wish I could do this too, but for example some projects prefix their remote versions with a v, others use `-` instead of `.` to separate the major/minor/bugfix, other prefix their remote version with the name of their project which is redundant
[2026-09-23T06:56:08Z] <Ozymandias42> morning
[2026-09-23T07:06:29Z] <GalaxyNova> hah, it's past midnight for me
[2026-09-23T09:15:56Z] <midfavila> god bless eval
[2026-09-23T18:09:30Z] <dery> I am extremely late to the party but damn posix 2024 really tackles some important scripting things
[2026-09-23T18:09:59Z] <dery> recently I've started seeing shell in a weird, different, light
[2026-09-23T18:10:16Z] <dery> like, there are a crapton of idiomatic operations and built-ins that are completely ignored
[2026-09-23T18:10:56Z] <dery> also, (very late) PSA: for test, the -a, -o, ( and ) args have been removed
[2026-09-23T20:07:44Z] <fultilt> Wow, you're right.  Reference: <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799.2024edition/utilities/test.html#tag_20_121_16>.
[2026-09-23T20:11:28Z] <Vova> dery also "set -o pipefail" is now posix
[2026-09-23T20:12:51Z] <dery> lessgooooooooo
[2026-09-23T20:27:33Z] <sad_plan> Vova: unfortunatly, theres no standarization for versioning that people use. however, there seem to be somewhat of a standard when it comes to versions in repology, so you can mostly just use whatever fits there. on oasis, we often just use commit hashes, which is even worse to keep track of lol
[2026-09-23T20:32:22Z] <Vova> sad_plan: yeah true, I'll keep using my tool for the time being, btw is there a way to become a kiss maintainer or at least have the right to merge PR?
[2026-09-23T20:32:36Z] <Vova> I'm probably not active enough to be trusted tho I guess lol
[2026-09-23T20:33:38Z] <sad_plan> youd have to ask phoebos about that. his the only one here who's' still on irc off the maintainers on kiss-community
[2026-09-23T20:34:00Z] <sad_plan> or you could email ioraff, maybe testuser, but not sure how active he is anymore
[2026-09-23T20:34:25Z] <Vova> alright thanks, but wait you aren't a maintainer?
[2026-09-23T20:34:31Z] <Vova> I thought you were
[2026-09-23T20:35:37Z] <sad_plan> lol, no I never had any pushing rights or anything really when it comes to kiss-community :P
[2026-09-23T20:36:15Z] <sad_plan> i have maintained a couple of packages in community, aswell as some patches for kiss-community.org, but thats about it :P
[2026-09-23T20:36:28Z] <Vova> ah fair enough
[2026-09-23T20:36:46Z] <sad_plan> ive mostly rolled my own stuff when it came to kiss :P
[2026-09-23T21:01:37Z] <stilic> I made my own update checker using the same backend as Fedora https://codeberg.org/LUSU/repo/src/commit/5b5d614ae851b71f5f8d57b07e9ffbe31fa0200b/repo/kiss-extras/files/kiss-outdated